Greenmile wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:01 pm
No start point, or end point, but you passed up so many opportunities to do so that any attempt to do so now will likely come across as incredibly insincere. Remember “
no no no! This is a thread to discuss antisemitism in Corbyn’s Labour Party. Start your own thread if you want to talk about the Tories’ Islamophobia” ? (I’m paraphrasing, but only slightly)
…or how about when you banged on and on about Corbyn’s links to Irish terrorism, and the you had to pretend you’d been away on a stag do to avoid answering the obvious questions when Theresa May climbed into bed with Arlene Foster’s DUP.
I don't follow your logic at all. I find you difficult to engage with you. You're openly are not prepared to take what I say on face value, so let me instead share a little story with you.
I've got a friend, an Englisman, who lives in France. He's got dual nationality nowadays and lives there permanently. He's an academic and has the intelligence to match. He's also highly articulate and thoughtful. However despite his intelligence (here you go Rileybobs, a bit flippancy snook into a serious subject) he also what I like to call "a massive lefty".
He brought up the question of Corbyn's alleged anti-semitism to me one day. The question he asked me was, "I've seen this storm about anti-semitism in the Labour party and centred around Jeremy Corbyn. Tell me Rowls, do you think Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-semite?"
He's used to asking questions, because he's a lecturer. And, unlike most of the responses on here, he really can tear an argument apart if it's weak or unfounded or insincere. So I made sure I thought about my response, moreso than I often do here.
"Let me show you something," I said.
And I found a picture online of the infamous mural that Jeremy Corbyn had "liked". For reference, the picture can be found at the link below, and if you need to the context about this, then click the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_for_Humanity
And then I told him that, no, I do not think that Jeremy Corbyn is, himself, an antisemite. However, Corbyn's politics had given him a massive blindspot when it came to antisemitism because it so often accompanied the kind of left wing politics that he was receptive to.
I think Jeremy Corbyn is a genuine and honest guy, a man of principle. But he certainly did (and still does) have a massive blindspot when it comes to anti-semitism.
My friend hadn't seen the mural before. He doesn't read British newspapers or obtain much that is contemporary from a British perspective. He'd only read a left-wing French article describing the debate, from a left leaning, pro-Corbyn bias so he hadn't seen the mural before. He was actually shocked that a high level politician could have been so stupid as to publicly endorse a mural like the one Jeremy Corbyn did.
