The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:13 pm

They aren't in a great financial state either. They would probably prefer the European Super League idea.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:35 pm

Mail reporting Spurs’ interest in VK but also suggesting we are set to offer him a new deal.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... enham.html

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:17 am

Kompany set to reject any Spurs offer

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... ham-offer/

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:22 am

https://twitter.com/Dan_KP/status/1648254541760983040

Evening Standard saying he is "of interest"

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by dsr » Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:36 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:17 am
Kompany set to reject any Spurs offer

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... ham-offer/
You can be sure that if Kompany doesn't want the job, he won't be officially offered it. The relevant agents would have quiet words all round to avoid the embarrassment of being turned down.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:26 pm

Top 6 clubs generally appoint a manager who has a proven established record in the top leagues of European football rather than give the role to a younger up and coming manager. Chelsea went down the route of appointing a manager who was unveiled as a “long term project “ but Graham Potter was “potted” after just a few months.
I looked on Oddschecker over the weekend and VK was a general 7/4 but now is out to 4/1 in places. Things seem to be heading in the right direction thankfully 😅

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:40 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:26 pm
Top 6 clubs generally appoint a manager who has a proven established record in the top leagues of European football rather than give the role to a younger up and coming manager. Chelsea went down the route of appointing a manager who was unveiled as a “long term project “ but Graham Potter was “potted” after just a few months.
I looked on Oddschecker over the weekend and VK was a general 7/4 but now is out to 4/1 in places. Things seem to be heading in the right direction thankfully 😅
And Chelsea also appointed Lampard as well.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:00 pm

Fabrizio Romano apparently says in his latest podcast that VK has held positive talks with Spurs. Not often he gets anything wrong but it doesn't seem like something VK would do without permission.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:20 pm

He might have permission, but it's my reckoning that VK has been nowhere near any talks with Tottenham.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:22 pm

Absolute b0llocks from Romano but he didn’t actually say it like that in his podcast anyway

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:24 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:00 pm
Fabrizio Romano apparently says in his latest podcast that VK has held positive talks with Spurs. Not often he gets anything wrong but it doesn't seem like something VK would do without permission.
Not often he gets stuff wrong, he deletes his tweets he gets wrong and names about 10 clubs who all ‘admire’ a player

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:00 pm
Fabrizio Romano apparently says in his latest podcast that VK has held positive talks with Spurs. Not often he gets anything wrong but it doesn't seem like something VK would do without permission.
And VK said "I am positive that I will not be the next Spurs manager"
That's positive :D

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:27 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:24 pm
Not often he gets stuff wrong, he deletes his tweets he gets wrong and names about 10 clubs who all ‘admire’ a player
Sounds like a cousin of mine. He nearly always wins on the Grand National. What he doesn't mention is that he backs half of the runners.
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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:27 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:24 pm
Not often he gets stuff wrong, he deletes his tweets he gets wrong and names about 10 clubs who all ‘admire’ a player
Agree, he’s a bit of a fraud I think, everyone clamours over him but he often repeats stuff already out there… was massively wrong on Gakpo to Liv in Jan.

On Kompany, just to add some balance, here is Jack Gaughan in the Mail (he’s City’s reporter so imagine some connections there) saying Kompany wants to stay with us:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... enham.html

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:28 pm

Maybe it’s positive talks about signing a player from them?
😁

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:37 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:27 pm
Agree, he’s a bit of a fraud I think, everyone clamours over him but he often repeats stuff already out there… was massively wrong on Gakpo to Liv in Jan.

On Kompany, just to add some balance, here is Jack Gaughan in the Mail (he’s City’s reporter so imagine some connections there) saying Kompany wants to stay with us:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... enham.html
Yeah true he’s not even tweeted about it just mentioned it on a podcast, he’s covering his back for if the German falls through

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:42 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:27 pm
Agree, he’s a bit of a fraud I think, everyone clamours over him but he often repeats stuff already out there… was massively wrong on Gakpo to Liv in Jan.

On Kompany, just to add some balance, here is Jack Gaughan in the Mail (he’s City’s reporter so imagine some connections there) saying Kompany wants to stay with us:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... enham.html
Gaughan also has a relationship with ALK - he did the first solo interview with Alan Pace after the takeover

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rnley.html

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by colne-claret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:45 pm

Starting to get worrying…this guy has been very reliable on news for us

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 8_KHMpW8QQ

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:46 pm

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:46 pm

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 1262852103

Sacha has been spot on all season with his Belgian contacts, which is rather worrying

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Pickles » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:47 pm

This is from Sacha Tavolieri. Belgian journalist who's been accurate with Kompany and our signings before.

"The connection between Vincent Kompany and Tottenham is founded and was undertaken by the Wasserman agency in contact with Daniel Levy who likes his unifying profile and his brand image in England with a style of play that would suit Tottenham's identity.

In case of arrival at Spurs, Vincent Kompany would arrive with his staff of 7 people and a hand on the transfer window.

For the moment, Kompany focus on getting more than 100 points in Championship with Burnley. VK was Chelsea’s plan B if not Pochettino."

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Pickles » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:48 pm

Worrying.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:48 pm

I suppose the only bit there that is slightly comforting is the "in case of arrival at Spurs"

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:49 pm

Be pretty devastating if he left us now.

If it happens though, you’d have to hope it doesn’t drag on. Any planning advantage we got from an Easter promotion would be thrown out of the window. I’d imagine his presence is a huge part of efforts to persuade the likes of Tella to join permanently.
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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Pickles » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:50 pm

I think he's off.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:52 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:49 pm
Be pretty devastating if he left us now.
Unless I'm reading the article wrong, it seems to suggest that the agency were hired by Levy to contact Kompany

But the stuff about the staff he takes with him does rather suggest a bit more than contact unfortunately

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:53 pm

Pickles wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:48 pm
Worrying.
Yes, very.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:55 pm

I'd still be surprised if he went now I think, but whatever decision he makes he won't make it without thinking through the pros and cons, and Spurs being a complete basket case in need of a major rebuild is both a good thing (it might put him off) and a bad thing (he might see it as a chance to make his team)

Hey ho, whatever will be, will be

We still won the league at Ewood!

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Jambounchained » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:56 pm

I thing he’s going

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:56 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:49 pm
Be pretty devastating if he left us now.

If it happens though, you’d have to hope it doesn’t drag on. Any planning advantage we got from an Easter promotion would be thrown out of the window. I’d imagine his presence is a huge part of efforts to persuade the likes of Tella to join permanently.
And you do wonder if the players we have on loan who have been brilliant for us would still come if he wasn't here, which would be more than a little devastating if that was the case

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:01 pm

Planning for next season according to this article in the Burnley Express.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... rn-4123176

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:01 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:56 pm
And you do wonder if the players we have on loan who have been brilliant for us would still come if he wasn't here, which would be more than a little devastating if that was the case
That was a concern of mine that I mentioned previously...the draw of playing for Vincent Kompany particularly for the foreign lads shouldnt be underestimated

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:05 pm

I’m assuming like VK did, all the coaching staff signed 4yr contracts,

That’ll be a fair chunk of money for Levy to payout on, if that’s the case

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by burnleymik » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:05 pm

Would be absolutely gutted and I genuinely believe it would be a mistake for him. That said also worrying that this team was built specifically for his style....

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by DCWat » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:06 pm

Jambounchained wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:56 pm
I thing he’s going
I think he’s staying

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:06 pm

He’s still 5/1 if you want to stick a wedge on. Speculation is just something we’re going to have to get used to. Speaking to an agency is one thing but I’m pretty sanguine about it. Still think he’ll be here for next season.
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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:06 pm

For me what Kompany represents is the hope that we might upset the odds for a season or two. I’m not talking European qualification, but with clever recruitment, maybe we finish midtable, playing attractive football and take a few scalps along the way.

There might be another manager out there who could also provide that hope, but it seems unlikely.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by expoultryboy » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:07 pm

Just had a look at the Tottenham forums and there's no talk/discussion about this.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Spijed » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:07 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:05 pm
I’m assuming like VK did, all the coaching staff signed 4yr contracts,

That’ll be a fair chunk of money for Levy to payout on, if that’s the case
When clubs such as Spurs can easily afford to buy players in the £30-40 (plus more at times) million price range then paying out for VK will be quite easy.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:07 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:01 pm
Planning for next season according to this article in the Burnley Express.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... rn-4123176
He’s hardly going to turn around and say ‘I’m not planning because I might not be here’

His agent has clearly been contacted and his agent has told spurs what he would want, I think it’s a case of if spurs get into Europe they will get bayerns ex manager, if they aren’t in Europe I think they push for Kompany and start again

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:08 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:07 pm
Just had a look at the Tottenham forums and there's no talk/discussion about this.
I guess we all know Sacha Tavolieri because we latched onto his stories last summer. He’s not a widely known journalist.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:10 pm

Pickles wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:47 pm
This is from Sacha Tavolieri. Belgian journalist who's been accurate with Kompany and our signings before.

"The connection between Vincent Kompany and Tottenham is founded and was undertaken by the Wasserman agency in contact with Daniel Levy who likes his unifying profile and his brand image in England with a style of play that would suit Tottenham's identity.

In case of arrival at Spurs, Vincent Kompany would arrive with his staff of 7 people and a hand on the transfer window.

For the moment, Kompany focus on getting more than 100 points in Championship with Burnley. VK was Chelsea’s plan B if not Pochettino."
By coincidence there is a Dan Levy who works for Wasserman in its global sports business - but not related it seems

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:10 pm

He’s always spot on with Belgium connected news. Probably just putting the feelers out this stage so I just hope they go for Nagelsmann. Would be gutted to not have at least one season in the prem with VK.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by agreenwood » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:11 pm

Another way to look at this is that Kompany’s agent is planting stories to get him a better contract and/or bigger transfer kitty.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by beddie » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:24 pm

VK will give us at least another 2 seasons I’m sure.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:26 pm

It’s all a game unfortunately and the fans are the losers who never get certainty and often aren’t even given time to enjoy successes.

These elite guys will all have an army of advisors who will all be working semi-independently on their client’s behalf, from agents to publicists to lawyers and accountants. They will be busy little bees. Kompany is obviously in that elite category, as are the Premier League clubs themselves, including the Clarets.

So with varying news from the Belgium end and the UK Mail end, which both sound like deliberate leaks to me, I’m inclined to think this is all part of the game and soon, unless something strange happens, I expect a new contract to be announced for Vinny at Burnley, and maybe for some of the backroom too. I may be wrong, but I just can’t see him going, he would end up hated by many fans for leaving us in the lurch, look at Coyle, despised less than a year after Wembley and beating Man Utd, his star fell and now he is in some Scottish minor league. I think Vinny is too savvy to leave wreckage like that behind him because he knows he may need friends not enemies in the future.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by alf_resco » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:28 pm

A lot of wishful thinking on this thread.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:29 pm

It was the manner of Coyle's leaving more than anything else.

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:26 pm
And VK said "I am positive that I will not be the next Spurs manager"
That's positive :D
He said that before they potted Stellini so he'd have been right at that point!

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Re: The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:40 pm

Not sure that mattered Billy. The thing for most of us was that Coyle leaving consigned us back to the wilderness after feeling we had finally made it back. OK, the silliness at Stadium MK was a bit annoying but it was the relegation that caused the long standing hatred, if we had somehow stayed up we may have moved on from it.

Anyway, one other unrelated thing I forgot to mention - not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but it was Frank Arneson who appointed VK at Anderlecht, who also of course worked for Levy at Spurs 15-20 years ago. However he left Anderlecht after VK had a poor first season. Not sure if that link will help or hinder but I found it interesting.

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