Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue May 09, 2023 9:59 pm

I looked at Wahi after he was linked too AC Milan as I had not heard of him.
It was soon apparent he was beyond us scoring 4 in a game at just 20.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Tue May 09, 2023 10:33 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2023 6:53 pm
The guy likes blowing his own trumpet.

To complete a permanent signing with Manchester United he will need to blow more than his trumpet

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue May 09, 2023 10:43 pm

It Is What It Is wrote: ↑
Mon May 08, 2023 12:06 pm
Yes..great pulling power for the club now with VK new contract. My one and only concern is Muric, his positioning and decision making on crosses frightens me tbh. We need to sign a bloody good keeper. Is Verbruggen coming??

Muric's improvement in one season has been dramatic - they guy nutmegged someone yesterday. He's a good keeper

LongsideClaret · Post by **LongsideClaret** » Tue May 09, 2023 11:12 pm

Hearing we could have some transfer news imminently this week… a familiar face.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue May 09, 2023 11:13 pm

LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2023 11:12 pm
Hearing we could have some transfer news imminently this week… a familiar face.

German?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Tue May 09, 2023 11:36 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2023 11:13 pm
German?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 10, 2023 1:50 am

Klinsmann?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 10, 2023 1:50 am

Beyer?

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:23 am

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Tue May 09, 2023 12:30 pm
And having now read his Wiki page, I see what you mean.

As long as he doesn't toss it off on the pitch then I'm not arsed!

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:29 am

Beyer...quickly becoming my new favourite player.....hope so.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:03 am

I'd love to get Pulisic out of Chelsea with our American owners/JJ watt link up but I fancy that is way beyond our means

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:30 am

as you would expect Tella not saying too much regarding signing for us https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/statu ... 34182?s=20

LongsideClaret · Post by **LongsideClaret** » Wed May 10, 2023 7:46 am

I’d certainly suggest most people will be glad he’s bach.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Wed May 10, 2023 8:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 4:30 am
as you would expect Tella not saying too much regarding signing for us https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/statu ... 34182?s=20

Answered those questions very professionally. Fair play to him.

Really hope we’re able to sign him.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Wed May 10, 2023 10:45 am

Tella has to be more careful with his comments that’s why he’s not really saying much, he’s 23 and a first team player, it’s different to THB a youngster at city saying ‘playing for Burnley in the premier league would excite me’ he knows he’s not near the first team yet

trawlen · Post by **trawlen** » Wed May 10, 2023 10:48 am

Media have made me cringe at least once per press conference / interview this season. Hopefully when there's more talking points other than are you enjoying being top of the league, and do you want to stay at Burnley, it will level out a bit.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Wed May 10, 2023 11:03 am

LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 7:46 am
I’d certainly suggest most people will be glad he’s bach.

Music to our ears?

eastcoastclaret · Post by **eastcoastclaret** » Wed May 10, 2023 11:05 am

LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 7:46 am
I’d certainly suggest most people will be glad he’s bach.

I see what you did there

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:01 pm

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LongsideClaret · Post by **LongsideClaret** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:02 pm

LongsideClaret wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 7:46 am
I’d certainly suggest most people will be glad he’s bach.

Now confirmed

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:17 pm

Stan Tastic wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 11:03 am
Music to our ears?

Guess they made the right overtures to him

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Wed May 10, 2023 4:37 pm

Brilliant news!.......Exciting times at this wonderful club.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed May 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 4:30 am
as you would expect Tella not saying too much regarding signing for us https://twitter.com/BBCLancsSport/statu ... 34182?s=20

Sorry chaps but my slant on that interview is that Tella is unlikely to sign for us. He said things like "whatever happens, it's be a great season here" and looking forward to seeing old friends and going on holiday with them. He'd obviously like to compete in the Premier League but I've got a feeling he'd like to return to Southampton and show them how good he is. I may be wrong but I feel that he'd like to do that. I think that it would be an unwise decision and he may not have much of a say in it anyway. I certainly don't think he'd do a Tarkowski and force through a move.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Wed May 10, 2023 11:10 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 11:00 pm
Sorry chaps but my slant on that interview is that Tella is unlikely to sign for us. He said things like "whatever happens, it's be a great season here" and looking forward to seeing old friends and going on holiday with them. He'd obviously like to compete in the Premier League but I've got a feeling he'd like to return to Southampton and show them how good he is. I may be wrong but I feel that he'd like to do that. I think that it would be an unwise decision and he may not have much of a say in it anyway. I certainly don't think he'd do a Tarkowski and force through a move.

I think he wants to come and I think he will.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:30 am

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Wed May 10, 2023 11:00 pm
Sorry chaps but my slant on that interview is that Tella is unlikely to sign for us. He said things like "whatever happens, it's be a great season here" and looking forward to seeing old friends and going on holiday with them. He'd obviously like to compete in the Premier League but I've got a feeling he'd like to return to Southampton and show them how good he is. I may be wrong but I feel that he'd like to do that. I think that it would be an unwise decision and he may not have much of a say in it anyway. I certainly don't think he'd do a Tarkowski and force through a move.

Soe logic in what you say, but his comments could be interpreted another way. None of us have any idea, to be truthful.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:15 am

In-A-Gadda-Da-VEdin

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu May 11, 2023 8:04 am

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 2:30 am
Soe logic in what you say, but his comments could be interpreted another way. None of us have any idea, to be truthful.

It was a stupid question to ask. Made answering very difficult.

trawlen · Post by **trawlen** » Thu May 11, 2023 9:31 am

I was trying to guess what the transfer budget would be but it's hard when you factor in the loans that left.

If we attempted to buy all the loans we'd probably be close to £50m total which is what I guess it would be initially.

Given that, it would be hard to add quality and improve on what we had this season

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 9:47 am

trawlen wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 9:31 am
I was trying to guess what the transfer budget would be but it's hard when you factor in the loans that left.

If we attempted to buy all the loans we'd probably be close to £50m total which is what I guess it would be initially.

Given that, it would be hard to add quality and improve on what we had this season

It’s going to be interesting to see our total spend this summer. Don’t forget there is the free market (Kent already linked) and 2 domestic loans / more overseas loans allowed (Forest have 2 and 2 this season). So I can imagine we will use both those options, as well as around a 45-50m spend. Should allow us to sign at least 2/3 of the loanees on permanents, plus a few others here and there. We don’t know how much upfront Beyer was, I’m predicting it was well below 10m with future bonuses taking it to the mentioned 13.5m. Overall I’m 100% confident we will be adding quality to the squad (Kompany has alluded to this several times).

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Thu May 11, 2023 10:01 am

trawlen wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 9:31 am
I was trying to guess what the transfer budget would be but it's hard when you factor in the loans that left.

If we attempted to buy all the loans we'd probably be close to £50m total which is what I guess it would be initially.

Given that, it would be hard to add quality and improve on what we had this season

Transfer fees now spread over multiple seasons, so in theory we could spend a total of 80m but only be paying 20m up front

Beyer has cost 13m
Maatsen wouldn’t cost more than 10m
Then tella we shouldn’t go above 18m

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Thu May 11, 2023 10:13 am

All the talk is always about transfer fees. I think salaries are just as important if not more so. Fees are spread over several years in the books and also with our model there is the hope that we will recover or improve on the amount we spend.

We got rid of quite a lot off the wage bill last summer but equally we’ve now got rid of Barnes, Lowton, Long and Westwood. So there could well be some unexpectedly good transfers. Hopefully for players who would be happy to work in our pay structure. And that is where Tella and Maatesen might become desirable options.

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Thu May 11, 2023 10:22 am

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 10:01 am
Transfer fees now spread over multiple seasons, so in theory we could spend a total of 80m but only be paying 20m up front

Beyer has cost 13m
Maatsen wouldn’t cost more than 10m
Then tella we shouldn’t go above 18m

It’s just my opinion, but I think you could roughly halve those figures.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 10:41 am

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 10:22 am
It’s just my opinion, but I think you could roughly halve those figures.

I agree-the Beyer £13m has not been confirmed by the club. All claret followers know what a great CH he is, and will get much better, but he has largely gone under the radar by the media and pundits. Any Burnley game televised by SKY, and I have seen all of them, rarely talks highly of Beyer, as they praise instead Benson, Tella, Barnes, Cullen, Zarrourry. Beyer did not even make Championship team of the year, and rarely got into team of the week. I think Tella may not feature regularly in Saints first team, and I think he knows that. DEspite relegation, they do have some very good players who will be hard to sell for the money Saints paid for them. Tella could go for as little as £12m. Maatsen is the one I am not so sure about-I think PL sides might hesitate in looking at him owing to his defensive weaknesses, but if we could get him for £6m that might be worth it (Roberts was circa £4m)

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu May 11, 2023 10:58 am

I can see us being clever with the international loan market to help us not spend as much. Loan fees with obligations to purchase if we stay up etc for a couple of players perhaps.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu May 11, 2023 11:45 am

I'd take whatever Tella said with a pinch of salt. Southampton might want to sell or keep him, and we might want to look elsewhere if the price is too steep.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 10:22 am
It’s just my opinion, but I think you could roughly halve those figures.

We know Beyer was €15 so that’s about £13m but it would be fantastic to get Maatsen and tella for half the prices I said

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 11:59 am

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am
We know Beyer was €15 so that’s about £13m but it would be fantastic to get Maatsen and tella for half the prices I said

We don't though, we know that if everything comes to pass in that deal (including add ons) then it is 15 Million Euro

Nixon has tweeted that when the deal was signed, he was a Bundesliga reserve in a mid table team and that is a very good deal

Borussia couldn't have seen the improvements he has made, as he looks like a colossus now at this level

The Guardian football podcast did a football league segment this week, and the FL expert picked Beyer as his player of the season

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 12:04 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 11:45 am
I'd take whatever Tella said with a pinch of salt. Southampton might want to sell or keep him, and we might want to look elsewhere if the price is too steep.

Agreed-these players on loan to a club have to be hugely diplomatic and respectful to the parent club they are contracted to. We may recall how diplomatic Beyer has been about any potential of signing with us.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu May 11, 2023 12:07 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 11:59 am
We don't though, we know that if everything comes to pass in that deal (including add ons) then it is 15 Million Euro

Nixon has tweeted that when the deal was signed, he was a Bundesliga reserve in a mid table team and that is a very good deal

Borussia couldn't have seen the improvements he has made, as he looks like a colossus now at this level

The Guardian football podcast did a football league segment this week, and the FL expert picked Beyer as his player of the season

To be fair he was also a full German u21 player and had over 40 full senior appearances (20 coming in the top league in Germany). That’s certainly not a bad record at the age of 21.

I take every few Nixon says with a pinch of salt after that rubbish about Nick Pope for 40m.

OffTheBar · Post by **OffTheBar** » Thu May 11, 2023 12:37 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 12:04 pm
Agreed-these players on loan to a club have to be hugely diplomatic and respectful to the parent club they are contracted to. We may recall how diplomatic Beyer has been about any potential of signing with us.

Yep. Just like Cart Carthorse is with us.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:04 pm

Any rumours around about any other imminent announcements?
Surely if we were going to sign Maatsen or Tella, it would be arranged already?

It's going to be an exciting summer for The Clarets...

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:10 pm

We don’t have options on Maatsen and Tella. Beyer and Obafemi were the two I was expecting confirmation of pretty quick.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:26 pm

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 1:10 pm
We don’t have options on Maatsen and Tella. Beyer and Obafemi were the two I was expecting confirmation of pretty quick.

Has Obafemi been confirmed?

I think Tella wasn't really prepared for those questions in that interview. He said that hadn't really thought about it and then said he was looking forward to going back to Southampton for pre-season. I think he's being very diplomatic because it's not up to him. If Southampton ask too much I'd expect us to move us. A bit like the lad at Coventry, if they're talking 25 million then I don't think that's great use of the money for a championship player when we payed about half of that to get Cornet who was a first team regular at Lyon with Champions League experience.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm

Reports flying around that Barnes has agreed a deal to Norwich. Surprising given his interview with the club a few weeks back where he said how settled he and his family were in the Chester area. Will definitely be looking out for their results next season.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:37 pm

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 1:26 pm
Has Obafemi been confirmed?

Not seen anything official but the option was more of an agreement to buy.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:47 pm

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 1:26 pm
Has Obafemi been confirmed?

I'd like to know this too. Is Obafemi a definite or an option?

He doesn't appear to have played a full match and in 15 matches he was selected he's made only 146 minutes on the pitch as sub. I still don't understand what's going on with him. Is he not fit, not good enough or what. If we were trying him out with a view to buying we've not done a very good job of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael ... ler/444208

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:54 pm

Hipper wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 2:47 pm
I'd like to know this too. Is Obafemi a definite or an option?

He doesn't appear to have played a full match and in 15 matches he was selected he's made only 146 minutes on the pitch as sub. I still don't understand what's going on with him. Is he not fit, not good enough or what. If we were trying him out with a view to buying we've not done a very good job of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael ... ler/444208

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... 657374.amp

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:54 pm

Hipper wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 2:47 pm
I'd like to know this too. Is Obafemi a definite or an option?

He doesn't appear to have played a full match and in 15 matches he was selected he's made only 146 minutes on the pitch as sub. I still don't understand what's going on with him. Is he not fit, not good enough or what. If we were trying him out with a view to buying we've not done a very good job of it.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael ... ler/444208

Swansea confirmed his transfer pretty much the minute we got promoted at Middlesbrough

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:04 pm

FeedTheArf wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 1:30 pm
Reports flying around that Barnes has agreed a deal to Norwich. Surprising given his interview with the club a few weeks back where he said how settled he and his family were in the Chester area. Will definitely be looking out for their results next season.

Bad move for Barnes I think. Replacing a very good, mobile striker and won't have the luxury of being a crowd favourite to fall back on.
Don't think he's going to a happy fanbase either.

Flying Without Ings · Post by **Flying Without Ings** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:30 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Thu May 11, 2023 3:04 pm
Bad move for Barnes I think. Replacing a very good, mobile striker and won't have the luxury of being a crowd favourite to fall back on.
Don't think he's going to a happy fanbase either.

He’s 33 and will apparently be given a 2 year deal on good money which I think is great for him at this stage of his career. Norwich a big club in championship terms too.