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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:03 pm
Bart was always his first choice last summer, but failed at the last hurdle, hence Muric being welcomed to the club with a Bart Simpson video...it will be interesting what happens with Muric but we don't pay 16m for someone not to play
Some folk on here would have you believe Muric is worth more than 16m.

If they were right, sell him and replace him with Bart.

I wouldn’t trust Muric in the Premier league.

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Post by Quicknick » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:08 pm

Verbruggen will start as number 1 if we're paying big money for him.

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Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:14 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:07 pm
Some folk on here would have you believe Muric is worth more than 16m.

If they were right, sell him and replace him with Bart.

I wouldn’t trust Muric in the Premier league.
Are you genuinely a Claret??... Quite a few little signals I'm picking up suggest maybe you're not.

A big percentage of your input seems to be intended to undermine young players in possibly our best team since 73/4/5
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Post by jojomk1 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:43 pm
I suspect Obafemi will officially sign on 1st July
Really disappointed with this guy
He couldn't get a start last season and now we seem committed to buying him

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Post by Quicknick » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:20 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:14 pm
Are you genuinely a Claret??... Quite a few little signals I'm picking up suggest maybe you're not.

A big percentage of your input seems to be intended to undermine young players in possibly our best team since 73/4/5
What did he say? I wouldn't trust Muric, either.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:21 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:14 pm
Are you genuinely a Claret??... Quite a few little signals I'm picking up suggest maybe you're not.

A big percentage of your input seems to be intended to undermine young players in possibly our best team since 73/4/5
His mask has slipped, Blackburn fan 100%

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:25 pm

I am delighted if we sign Verbruggen-it just shows how closely VK is plotting our PL return. The great majority of the PL keepers are sensational, with most clubs having exceptional No 2 and at times No 3 keepers too. Muric seems to have grown on our fans in the second half of the season. But in this period we lost one league game only, had over 60% possession in almost all these games and Muric had probably less to do than any other keeper in the Division. It was also the Championship.His distribution is phenomenal but the PL will quickly test his skills-he is not dominant in coming for crosses or punching, and he is not as good a shot stopper as many PL keepers. A good PL keeper can earn you 5-10 points easily in the PL, more than some strikers can, and help us avoid relegation. PL teams do their research and will expose any potential individual weaknesses. VK will want to get BV in quick so he can experiment with pre season friendlies, so that we start the new season with our strongest keeper.. This would pave the way for Peacock Farrell to be sold rather than loaned. He has a good CV with his international appearances and could do well in the Championship.

As for Tella I am not sure Saints can get out of him what we did. He blended so well with Benson, Maatsen, Zarroury , Barnesand Jay. He may not get that support at Saints. The reason we got him last year was because Saints did not see the potential in him and it would be such a shame to see him failing to get a regular start there.Would love him to join us permanently as VK and Bellamy will take him to the next level
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Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:26 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:20 pm
What did he say? I wouldn't trust Muric, either.
It's far from just Muric.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:27 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:25 pm
I am delighted if we sign Verbruggen-it just shows how closely VK is plotting our PL return. The great majority of the PL keepers are sensational, with most clubs having exceptional No 2 and at times No 3 keepers too. Muric seems to have grown on our fans in the second half of the season. But in this period we lost one league game only, had over 60% possession in almost all these games and Muric had probably less to do than any other keeper in the Division. It was also the Championship.His distribution is phenomenal but the PL will quickly test his skills-he is not dominant in coming for crosses or punching, and he is not as good a shot stopper as many PL keepers. A good PL keeper can earn you 5-10 points easily in the PL, more than some strikers can, and help us avoid relegation. PL teams do their research and will expose any potential individual weaknesses. VK will want to get BV in quick so he can experiment with pre season friendlies, so that we start the new season with our strongest keeper.. This would pave the way for Peacock Farrell to be sold rather than loaned. He has a good CV with his international appearances and could do well in the Championship.

As for Tella I am not sure Saints can get out of him what we did. He blended so well with Benson, Maatsen, Zarroury , Barnesand Jay. He may not get that support at Saints. The reason we got him last year was because Saints did not see the potential in him and it would be such a shame to see him failing to get a regular start there.Would love him to join us permanently as VK and Bellamy will take him to the next level
It’s a difficult one for Tella right now I’m not sure he even starts for Southampton.

Got to imagine Southampton sell a few forwards first

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:29 pm

He keeps referring to Foster as being ‘pony’ like some ten bob Danny Dyer, it’s odd behaviour.
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Post by eastcoastclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:27 pm
It’s a difficult one for Tella right now I’m not sure he even starts for Southampton.

Got to imagine Southampton sell a few forwards first
It wouldn't surprise me if we signed him in January.

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Post by clarethomer » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:45 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:19 pm
Really disappointed with this guy
He couldn't get a start last season and now we seem committed to buying him
VK has said that because he hadn't played for a lot of the season up to us signing him was the reason why he got the game time he did.

We can only play 11 on the field at once and given the season we have had, I am not sure him not being given a start is anything to worry about at this stage.

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Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:51 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:19 pm
Really disappointed with this guy
He couldn't get a start last season
There...thats the bit there!

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:52 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:19 pm
Really disappointed with this guy
He couldn't get a start last season and now we seem committed to buying him
Wasn’t it said that VK already knew Obafemi atPL level and wanted to bed Foster in?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:55 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:19 pm
Really disappointed with this guy
He couldn't get a start last season and now we seem committed to buying him
We were always so. Not sure how you can be disappointed though given how little he played.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:35 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OF6Q92I ... dlbg%3D%3D

For anyone interested this the Verbruggen season review.

Some world class saves in there. This is a keeper to get very excited about by the looks of it.
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Post by eastcoastclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:35 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7OF6Q92I ... dlbg%3D%3D

For anyone interested this the Verbruggen season review.

Some world class saves in there. This is a keeper to get very excited about by the looks of it.
Reminds me a little of the Muric clips before he signed. Lots of good stops but rarely holds onto the ball.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:54 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:40 pm
I have a feeling that he will stay with Southampton and probably regret it. They won’t get promoted and will not be the player that he was for us.
He is contracted to Southampton and I reckon he'll get plenty of game time and score plenty of goals.

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Post by BigChaCha » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:00 pm

dermotdermot wrote: I have a feeling that he will stay with Southampton and probably regret it.
How can he regret it if he's not made the decision and it is out of his hands... The only reason he doesn't sign for us is if they play hardball and have priced him out of the market and we think we can get better value elsewhere.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:01 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:53 pm
Reminds me a little of the Muric clips before he signed. Lots of good stops but rarely holds onto the ball.
Having seen that video and having gone to the Ethiad to see us beaten 6-0 then based on that video I suspect Verbruggen would have saved 3 or 4 of their goals. A 2-0 defeat would have made it very respectable, away to the best team in Europe. This guy will make us a better team and earn us points
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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:07 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:14 pm
Are you genuinely a Claret??... Quite a few little signals I'm picking up suggest maybe you're not.

A big percentage of your input seems to be intended to undermine young players in possibly our best team since 73/4/5
Absolutely.

The only players I’ve been critical of are:

Muric - did well in the back half of the season when not under pressure. Going to be battered with shots next season and I don’t think he’ll be up to it.

Foster - miles off the pace in the Championship.

Rodriguez - finished at Championship level, let alone having to make the step up again to Prem.

Give me a strong argument how I’m wrong on the above and I’ll listen to you. Don’t just defend them because they play for us.

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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:09 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:29 pm
He keeps referring to Foster as being ‘pony’ like some ten bob Danny Dyer, it’s odd behaviour.
He is pony and with all due respect, you are a mug of you think otherwise from the performances we’ve seen from him in a Burnley shirt.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:14 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:09 pm
He is pony and with all due respect, you are a mug of you think otherwise from the performances we’ve seen from him in a Burnley shirt.
These are naughty, naughty people.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:16 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:21 pm
His mask has slipped, Blackburn fan 100%
Username is the big giveaway.

He’ll be another incarnation of Saxo.

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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:18 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:14 pm
These are naughty, naughty people.
I don’t think they are naughty, I just think they are a bit deluded with some of their opinions. Not every signing works out, that’s a fact.

I just don’t see the need to have to defend or big up all our players on a message board when they clearly aren’t up to the mammoth task ahead of us in the Premier League.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:19 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:25 pm
His distribution is phenomenal but the PL will quickly test his skills-he is not dominant in coming for crosses or punching
did you have your eyes closed for the second half of the season ? He was a completely different keeper to the one that started the season

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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:19 pm
did you have your eyes closed for the second half of the season ? He was a completely different keeper to the one that started the season
Did you have your eyes closed for the Sheffield United game?

When a team are on top of us next season, and make no mistake many will be, they’ll load the box with crosses and punish us.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:24 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:23 pm
Did you have your eyes closed for the Sheffield United game?

When a team are on top of us next season, and make no mistake many will be, they’ll load the box with crosses and punish us.
Your contributions are worse than your cringey username, fair enough

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:30 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:01 pm
Having seen that video and having gone to the Ethiad to see us beaten 6-0 then based on that video I suspect Verbruggen would have saved 3 or 4 of their goals. A 2-0 defeat would have made it very respectable, away to the best team in Europe. This guy will make us a better team and earn us points
How can you possibly conclude that a goalkeeper you have never actually seen play could have prevented 4 of the goals scored?

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:30 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:18 pm
I don’t think they are naughty, I just think they are a bit deluded with some of their opinions. Not every signing works out, that’s a fact.

I just don’t see the need to have to defend or big up all our players on a message board when they clearly aren’t up to the mammoth task ahead of us in the Premier League.
It was a Danny Dyer reference, to be fair.

I agree that Foster has in the main been underwhelming, but it’s far too early to write him off just yet.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:24 pm
Your contributions are worse than your cringey username, fair enough
His contributions are absolute pony,
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:19 pm
did you have your eyes closed for the second half of the season ? He was a completely different keeper to the one that started the season
I really don’t agree with this sentiment.

I thought he was better but not massively better. Even with the games towards the end of the season I still thought he looked relatively weak in his box and struggled to command the box. He’s still very young though.

If Verbruggen is an improvement (certainly looks a better shot stopper) then we have got ourselves another top keeper.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:34 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:30 pm
It was a Danny Dyer reference, to be fair.

I agree that Foster has in the main been underwhelming, but it’s far too early to write him off just yet.
I agree with Foster. I don’t think he’s been poor, just underwhelming.

I also think you need to add a little context when looking at him. He’s always played for teams that break with pace on the counter. He came to Burnley where they play a much more possession based style.

6 months of bedding in and getting used to the style will benefit him.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:34 pm
I agree with Foster. I don’t think he’s been poor, just underwhelming.

I also think you need to add a little context when looking at him. He’s always played for teams that break with pace on the counter. He came to Burnley where they play a much more possession based style.

6 months of bedding in and getting used to the style will benefit him.
Hopefully.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:41 pm

Trust the process
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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:46 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:41 pm
Trust the process
Absolutely.
Foster is contracted until 2027.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:47 pm

I thought Foster looked really good at Bristol City until he went off with concussion.

Clearly has a lot to prove but I’m sure he will benefit from a pre season with us.
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Post by taio » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:32 pm
I really don’t agree with this sentiment.

I thought he was better but not massively better. Even with the games towards the end of the season I still thought he looked relatively weak in his box and struggled to command the box. He’s still very young though.

If Verbruggen is an improvement (certainly looks a better shot stopper) then we have got ourselves another top keeper.
He was significantly better in the second-half of the season. How can you not see that

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Post by JimmyRobbo » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:59 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:29 pm
He keeps referring to Foster as being ‘pony’ like some ten bob Danny Dyer, it’s odd behaviour.
Can't get horses off his brain.

Dead giveaway.
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Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:47 pm
I thought Foster looked really good at Bristol City until he went off with concussion.

Clearly has a lot to prove but I’m sure he will benefit from a pre season with us.
Couldn’t agree more CT! Thought Foster played well at Bristol and it was a shame to see him go off injured……although it did allow Jay to come on and he also played really well.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:03 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:30 pm
How can you possibly conclude that a goalkeeper you have never actually seen play could have prevented 4 of the goals scored?
Qualified it by saying "based on the evidence of that video". Christ lets get excited with some of the quality we are looking to bring in. Wasn't that long ago that the names we were looking at were Dale Stephens, Joe Allen, Andy Carrol, Ashley Young. VK will know everything about this keeper having managed him, plus he has watched Muric all season. Theres a reason why he could be our record signing
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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:47 pm
I thought Foster looked really good at Bristol City until he went off with concussion.

Clearly has a lot to prove but I’m sure he will benefit from a pre season with us.
Me too. I thought he looked excellent in his last few games.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:10 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:03 pm
Qualified it by saying "based on the evidence of that video". Christ lets get excited with some of the quality we are looking to bring in. Wasn't that long ago that the names we were looking at were Dale Stephens, Joe Allen, Andy Carrol, Ashley Young. VK will know everything about this keeper having managed him, plus he has watched Muric all season. Theres a reason why he could be our record signing

i totally agree that we should be excited about the possible incoming players, but that does not automatically allow unnecessary criticism of our current squad members.
Pointing out the failings of one doesn't enhance the ability of the other.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by taio » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:11 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:03 pm
Qualified it by saying "based on the evidence of that video". Christ lets get excited with some of the quality we are looking to bring in. Wasn't that long ago that the names we were looking at were Dale Stephens, Joe Allen, Andy Carrol, Ashley Young. VK will know everything about this keeper having managed him, plus he has watched Muric all season. Theres a reason why he could be our record signing
It's quite exciting. But no need to make stupid comments off the back of it. I mean, how can you possibly conclude we'd have only conceded two. Crazy

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by eastcoastclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:12 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:01 pm
Having seen that video and having gone to the Ethiad to see us beaten 6-0 then based on that video I suspect Verbruggen would have saved 3 or 4 of their goals. A 2-0 defeat would have made it very respectable, away to the best team in Europe. This guy will make us a better team and earn us points
I don't understand your point. I was referring to clips of Muric before he signed and he didn't play against City.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:13 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:59 pm
He was significantly better in the second-half of the season. How can you not see that
I thought some of his worse games came in the second half of the season,

Especially against Watford and QPR where I personally think he had his two worst games in a Burnley shirt.

However like i said I think he was better in the second half. Just knowhere near as good as some would make you think
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:14 pm

Anderlect wanted churlinov before we signed him I’m sure, maybe try and add him into the Bart deal

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:15 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:11 pm
It's quite exciting. But no need to make stupid comments off the back of it. I mean, how can you possibly conclude we'd have only conceded two. Crazy
Calm down -its my opinion. I was at the Ethiad game and every time a goal went in I wondered if Peacock Farrell could have done better with 5 of the goals-then I saw the footage of Verbruggen and thought how good he was on ONE ON ONES, and in coming out bravely.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by FeedTheArf » Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:16 pm

It wasn’t too long ago that we had 3 England international keepers on our books.

Having too many good players for a position isn’t the worst problem for us to have.

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