Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[clarets12]

Of course age is relevant. I think he's going for someone at their peak age to come straight in.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Of course age is relevant. I think he's going for someone at their peak age to come straight in.

I agree I can’t see a 28 year old keeper coming in for a rumoured 10m sitting on the bench.

[Rileybobs]

Surely it’s pretty clear to see that VK is looking for a new first choice goalkeeper.

[taio]

Had we signed Verbruggen it would have been with a view to him challenging for the number 1 spot. He's 20 years of age.

[daveisaclaret]

It feels to me like we're exclusively targeting players who can compete for a starting role. Think there are pros and cons to that approach but if we can afford to it and if we can get it right more often than not it's going to be pretty exciting.

[Jakubs Tash]

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, I could see us signing two keepers - one of which being Trafford - and Muric leaving.

So one keeper is the new no1 but Trafford is on the bench and continuing to develop but eventually becomes the no1 and is probably sold for a very tidy profit. At least that would be the theory…..

I just can’t see Muric being a sub.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Regardless of who starts he basically want's two decent keepers. He will be in the squad and challenging for the number 1 shirt with Muric. It's all about competition for each position.

[RVclaret]

For me it’s to challenge for the first choice role. Kompany likes having fierce competition for every position and BPF just isn’t up to providing that at Prem level.

[NottsClaret]

Surely it’s pretty clear to see that VK is looking for a new first choice goalkeeper.

Looks like it doesn't it. I thought Muric improved as the season went on, is obviously brilliant with his feet and looked strong at the end. But here's a bit of unsubstantiated speculation based on very little - I think the bar bill thing, the partying.. maybe doesn't sit right with Kompany. Get the feeling he's a bit of a 'character'. Didn't he miss an international match once for being drunk?

[ClaretInLeeds]

When the options to replace Muric are both error prone and not goor enough for the PL, you would be saying it was neglectful of VK to not buy a keeper. It’s not as if Muric didn’t get injured a few times last season either….

[jojomk1]

It feels to me like we're exclusively targeting players who can compete for a starting role. Think there are pros and cons to that approach but if we can afford to it and if we can get it right more often than not it's going to be pretty exciting.

And so we should be

We still need a starting LB, No 10, Striker and CM along with the GK

At least one additional wide player and maybe even another CM

As good as some of our "squad" players were last season, we need to improve the starting eleven and the bench

[clarets12]

At least one additional wide player and maybe even another CM

LW. Zaroury needs competition.

[Rileybobs]

For me it’s to challenge for the first choice role. Kompany likes having fierce competition for every position and BPF just isn’t up to providing that at Prem level.

We definitely need a stronger second choice than BPF, and I agree that we need strength in every position. But the goalkeeping berth is unique in that a team will usually start the season with a number one and only change with a severe lack of form or injury. The calibre of goalkeeper that we appear to be interested in suggests pretty conclusively to me that we are looking at an upgrade to Muric rather than someone to provide competition.

There are plenty of senior keepers who would join as a competitive back up on a fraction of the prices being bandied around so it seems pretty clear to me that VK had identified the number one jersey as a position that needs upgrading.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Tom Davies has rejected a new contract offer from Everton and will be a "free"

Just reporting what has happened

Could be worth a punt, still only 24

[RVclaret]

We definitely need a stronger second choice than BPF, and I agree that we need strength in every position. But the goalkeeping berth is unique in that a team will usually start the season with a number one and only change with a severe lack of form or injury. The calibre of goalkeeper that we appear to be interested in suggests pretty conclusively to me that we are looking at an upgrade to Muric rather than someone to provide competition.

There are plenty of senior keepers who would join as a competitive back up on a fraction of the prices being bandied around so it seems pretty clear to me that VK had identified the number one jersey as a position that needs upgrading.

Some fair points there. A quick check of last seasons 3 promoted teams that stayed up all brought in a new number 1 as well. Still think it would seem a bit harsh on Muric, after a strong season, to not get given a chance - but that’s for VK to manage / decide.

[Rileybobs]

Some fair points there. A quick check of last seasons 3 promoted teams that stayed up all brought in a new number 1 as well. Still think it would seem a bit harsh on Muric, after a strong season, to not get given a chance - but that’s for VK to manage / decide.

Yes I agree in some ways, I was quite critical of Muric during the first half of the season and he improved a lot as the season progressed. Although in fairness I also think he had a lot less ‘goalkeeping’ to do as the season went on and the defence improved immeasurably.

But there’s obviously little room for loyalty, otherwise Barnes would be starting for us next season. If VK doesn’t think that Muric is strong enough at the ‘traditional’ goalkeeping skills which we will undoubtedly need more next season then he’s making the right call by addressing that. What would be interesting is whether Muric would stick around and fight for his place or look for a move. He made a rather cryptic social media post shortly after the season ended alluding to his future if I’m not mistaken?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Barnes is mid 30's, twilight of career etc, hardly a fair comparison with Muric who's on the up

It was the right time for Barnes to go, we all know it

[Rileybobs]

Barnes is mid 30's, twilight of career etc, hardly a fair comparison with Muric who's on the up

It was the right time for Barnes to go, we all know it

It’s not a comparison, my point being that if VK doesn’t think a player is capable of or ready to make the step up then he would be wrong to give them a chance out of loyalty.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

It’s not a comparison, my point being that if VK doesn’t think a player is capable of or ready to make the step up then he would be wrong to give them a chance out of loyalty.

Maybe he thinks our 2nd choice GK can't make the step up

[Rileybobs]

Maybe he thinks our 2nd choice GK can't make the step up

I’m sure he knows our 2nd choice keeper can’t make the step up. But like I say, the calibre of goalkeeper we seem to be targeting, and their associated price tags, suggests very strongly that he’s looking for an upgrade on Muric. Seems pretty clear to me.

[123EasyasBFC]

Who signs first Butez or Larsen? Still not a single report on Larsen other than a kid posting on twitter

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Upgrade or decent competition, depends on your viewpoint

[Newcastleclaret93]

Upgrade or decent competition, depends on your viewpoint

I don’t get the competition view point.

We are not spending that kind of money on a keeper for him to be sat on the bench.

[ClaretInLeeds]

So you expect this new guy to walk straight into the starting XI under no competition with any other ‘keeper?

You know how football works, right?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I don’t get the competition view point.

We are not spending that kind of money on a keeper for him to be sat on the bench.

Kompany will decide who sits on the bench, because Muric may prove he should be first choice.

We spent big before for players to end up on the bench, Gibson for example.

We need two good keepers, like we had with Heaton and Pope, because they'll push each other.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Who signs first Butez or Larsen? Still not a single report on Larsen other than a kid posting on twitter

Larson has had his medical by all accounts so I’d guess he will be announced soon

[Rileybobs]

Kompany will decide who sits on the bench, because Muric may prove he should be first choice.

We spent big before for players to end up on the bench, Gibson for example.

We need two good keepers, like we had with Heaton and Pope, because they'll push each other.

So is it your view that VK is looking to sign a goalkeeper of less ability than Muric in order to provide stiffer competition than what BPF offers?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Kompany will decide who sits on the bench, because Muric may prove he should be first choice.

We spent big before for players to end up on the bench, Gibson for example.

We need two good keepers, like we had with Heaton and Pope, because they'll push each other.

I know we need two good keepers. I just can’t see this guy coming in for the sort of money mentioned to sit on the bench. Goes against the model (we don’t spend that kind of money so they can depreciate in value sitting on the bench).

[123EasyasBFC]

Larson has had his medical by all accounts so I’d guess he will be announced soon

Has there actually been anything official about him having a medical? Not seen a single report

[RVclaret]

I know we need two good keepers. I just can’t see this guy coming in for the sort of money mentioned to sit on the bench. Goes against the model (we don’t spend that kind of money so they can depreciate in value sitting on the bench).

What kind of money? Not been a fee mentioned anywhere for Butez yet. Verbruggen at 13m+ I’d agree. Butez at 6/7m (I’m just speculating based on his experience, club and age) not sure I’d agree.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

So is it your view that VK is looking to sign a goalkeeper of less ability than Muric in order to provide stiffer competition than what BPF offers?

Why does he have to be of less ability?

Muric is our current first choice, knows the system we play and suits it really well and deserves the chance to retain his spot.

BPF isn’t going to be of the required quality to replace Muric if a change is needed, he’s no sweeper keeper for starters.

We can bat this around all day if you’re really that bothered by it, I’ve got some spare time, but ultimately Kompany will decide who’s warming the bench at the start of the season

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I know we need two good keepers. I just can’t see this guy coming in for the sort of money mentioned to sit on the bench. Goes against the model (we don’t spend that kind of money so they can depreciate in value sitting on the bench).

Who’s coming for definite and for what money?
I’m seeing a few names linked but as yet nothing solid

[daveisaclaret]

Our most expensive signing last summer and most expensive in January started 5 games between them so I'm not totally convinced the model is automatically putting the expensive lads in the team tbh

[clarets12]

Why does he have to be of less ability?

Muric is our current first choice, knows the system we play and suits it really well and deserves the chance to retain his spot.

BPF isn’t going to be of the required quality to replace Muric if a change is needed, he’s no sweeper keeper for starters.

We can bat this around all day if you’re really that bothered by it, I’ve got some spare time, but ultimately Kompany will decide who’s warming the bench at the start of the season

Rileybobs doesn't know his football. But it's pretty pointless bringing Kompany into this. Of course he decides, but it's a Burnley supporters group. So who decides is up for discussion.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Has there actually been anything official about him having a medical? Not seen a single report

There were hardly any reports last summer on the majority of our signings having medicals. A lot of our signings were out of blue.

[123EasyasBFC]

There were hardly any reports last summer on the majority of our signings having medicals. A lot of our signings were out of blue.

The only signing last summer that came without a single report was Vitinho

[Vegas Claret]

Hakim Ziyech gone to Saudi, they are doing work for Chelsea

[Tricky Trevor]

There are some feckers on here could start an argument looking in the mirror shaving.

[Marney&Mee]

Hakim Ziyech gone to Saudi, they are doing work for Chelsea

should never have left One Direction...

[Belial]

There are some feckers on here could start an argument looking in the mirror shaving.

Which ironic as a fair few don't come across as old enough to shave

[clarets12]

Which ironic as a fair few don't come across as old enough to shave

5-10 people talk sense and I'm one of them

Not the best conversion rate!

[It Is What It Is]

As a Claret fan but with no concept of BFC finances whatsoever...am I right in understanding that :
1. Most of our takeover debts have been repaid by the sale of players and parachute payments on relegation, plus a few quid left over to buy our current new players.

2. From monies received for being Champions and promoted to the EPL, plus anticipated fortunes in premier League TV, and are we now practically solvent as a club?

Only asking as everything was all Doom and Gloom this time last year, doing a Wigan, and on the slippery slope to oblivion!

[Rileybobs]

Why does he have to be of less ability?

Muric is our current first choice, knows the system we play and suits it really well and deserves the chance to retain his spot.

BPF isn’t going to be of the required quality to replace Muric if a change is needed, he’s no sweeper keeper for starters.

We can bat this around all day if you’re really that bothered by it, I’ve got some spare time, but ultimately Kompany will decide who’s warming the bench at the start of the season

I’m not bothered about batting this around all day, you were the one who engaged in conversation with me so I’m just being polite and responding.

Of course it’s up to Kompany, that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss the situation. It’s pretty clear to me that he’s looking for a new number one, whether he gets one or not time will tell - and we won’t know for certain until the season is underway.

As for Muric deserving his chance to retain his spot, this is the loyalty issue I’m talking about. If VK doesn’t think that Muric is good enough currently to make the step up then should he start him just because he ‘deserves his spot’? Why doesn’t BPF deserve his spot as our number two keeper on that basis?

Signing a top goalkeeper will be a much harder sell if they know they will have to sit on the bench and wait for an injury or run of bad form from Muric. It’s the one position in a squad where I would expect all players to know where in the pecking order they start the season.

[Rileybobs]

There are some feckers on here could start an argument looking in the mirror shaving.

Out of interest who is starting an argument? Other than the puerile Factual Frank’s contribution I haven’t read anything other than people putting forward their opposing points of view in a reasoned manner. You seem to be doing what a lot of people on here do which is making false accusations in order to stop a discussion that you have no interest in.

[Big Vinny K]

As a Claret fan but with no concept of BFC finances whatsoever...am I right in understanding that :
1. Most of our takeover debts have been repaid by the sale of players and parachute payments on relegation, plus a few quid left over to buy our current new players.

2. From monies received for being Champions and promoted to the EPL, plus anticipated fortunes in premier League TV, and are we now practically solvent as a club?

Only asking as everything was all Doom and Gloom this time last year, doing a Wigan, and on the slippery slope to oblivion!

1) No
2) We have always been solvent.

[blatherwickstattoos]

The only signing last summer that came without a single report was Vitinho

Sure muric and a couple more did too I might be wrong. I have it on very good authority it’s a done deal though. He’s one who may prove a very shrewd bit of business

[Newcastleclaret93]

Another link to Sheraldo Becker

Union want 20m euros

[KateR]

Joshua Zirkzee, as someone who has played for VK, makes a statement and is of course immediately linked, was surprised to see he's 6' 4", which would definitely add some (badly needed IMO) height into the side. Think he's one of those rank outsiders though, just so many being linked again, that's a good thing though, still early days in the window though, but I'd imagine/guess VK will want as many in the door as possible in order to start training when they all return for the second part, prior to starting the season.

I believe Jean Butez’s price was mentioned at 17K, obviously a lot to spend out of the war chest, but if BPF does go I suppose we recoup a little bit of that.

Can see the Japanese boy from Celtic being attractive to AP and co to bring in another audience that we probably don't have, can't see him going to Spur's with their attacking line up!

Saw a report this morning that Tresor has said no to C Palace, making it easier for BFC to sign, Tresor is the one I'm probably most excited about, however I've never see him play, but everything I read just seems to be a good fit for the area I believe we need to strengthen the most.

The link to J Henrdy doesn't inspire me, but we'll see, which is virtually the same for all these different players linked, probably be another one announced that has never been linked

[HahaYeah]

Muric quote from earlier today :

Manchester City’s James Trafford and Antwerp’s Jean Butez are among the other names linked with the Clarets, while Bailey Peacock-Farrell’s future is also uncertain.

When asked how it would feel to play in the Premier League, Muric grinned: “I’ll tell you how I feel if I start!”
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... n-burnley/

[Wile E Coyote]

Great name for a burnley signing, Jean Butez, only a matter of time before he'll be known as Jam or Chip.