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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by IanMcL » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:10 pm

Gyokeres evidently wants to play for Porting Lisbon and agreed terms. Coventry want more money. Not sure Gyokeres would be so motivated elsewhere.

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:17 pm

Gyokeres is OK but I just never thought he'd fit into our team,I reckon we've dodged a bullet.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:18 pm

So we move on.Personally , I wasn't convinced he was what we needed .Nathan Tella and Flemming makes more sense imo

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Post by clarethomer » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:22 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:17 pm
Gyokeres is OK but I just never thought he'd fit into our team,I reckon we've dodged a bullet.
Im not sure about dodging a bullet as such but I agree about struggling to see him fit in the team.

Clearly got goals in him and he is a strong forward but Im a bit 'meh' about him still for some reason.
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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:40 pm

Where's the Georgian?!!

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:42 pm

The Lokonga deal has gone very quiet, I really like the look of him. He now has Premier League experience and will hopefully thrive being back under VK. Him and Vrancx in midfield would be a powerful looking force.

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:47 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:17 pm
Gyokeres is OK but I just never thought he'd fit into our team,I reckon we've dodged a bullet.
Really not interested in the slightest to the extent I’d be underwhelmed, borderline worried if we did sign him. Didn’t like his finishing in our two games against them. Excellent Championship player but not sure he’ll make the step up.
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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:48 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:42 pm
The Lokonga deal has gone very quiet, I really like the look of him. He now has Premier League experience and will hopefully thrive being back under VK. Him and Vrancx in midfield would be a powerful looking force.
Maybe Arsenal need to bag Rice first?

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:51 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:48 pm
Maybe Arsenal need to bag Rice first?
Which sounds like it's pretty close. So maybe something will happen soon?

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Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:56 pm

Lokonga and Vrancz is midfield sounds good.

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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:00 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:47 pm
Really not interested in the slightest to the extent I’d be underwhelmed, borderline worried if we did sign him. Didn’t like his finishing in our two games against them. Excellent Championship player but not sure he’ll make the step up.
Yet people are convinced pony Foster will produce the goods in the Premier League despite his finishing in the Championship…

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Post by Tinribs » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:00 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:13 pm
There’s every chance we will. We may have to do a lot of our business after the season starts.
Panic mode and it’s still June,typical of this board
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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:03 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:51 pm
Which sounds like it's pretty close. So maybe something will happen soon?
Hopefully.

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Post by Jill1960 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:16 pm

Only dip into this post occasionally so apologies if this has been discussed recently.
Really hoping we can afford to get Tella. Checked on Southampton’s website and he’s not listed under either the First Team or B Team squads. There’s an article showing their squads are in training. Really hoping this means Southampton are moving on without Nathan. But can we get the deal done. Any insights?

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:21 pm

I don't think we can even sign foreign players until Monday anyway can we?

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:25 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:21 pm
I don't think we can even sign foreign players until Monday anyway can we?
Spurs signed a goalkeeper from Empoli yesterday…..

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Post by daveisaclaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:27 pm

Jill1960 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:16 pm
Only dip into this post occasionally so apologies if this has been discussed recently.
Really hoping we can afford to get Tella. Checked on Southampton’s website and he’s not listed under either the First Team or B Team squads. There’s an article showing their squads are in training. Really hoping this means Southampton are moving on without Nathan. But can we get the deal done. Any insights?
They tweeted a video showing him heading into training today

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Post by claretlegend » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:28 pm

Weghorst being linked with a loan to Galatasaray on Twitter. No idea how reliable.

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Post by Jill1960 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:29 pm

Oh rats 😤

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Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:31 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:00 pm
Yet people are convinced pony Foster will produce the goods in the Premier League despite his finishing in the Championship…
Apart from the wording, we do need someone else

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Post by Jill1960 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:31 pm

😤 Thats to Nathan Tella being on a Southampton tweet today not the Weghorst comment. Weghorst good riddance.
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Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 pm

Jill1960 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:31 pm
😤 Thats to Nathan Tella being on a Southampton tweet today not the Weghorst comment. Weghorst good riddance.
We need to get sone money back for Weghorst not a loan out.

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Post by fatboy47 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:55 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:31 pm
Apart from the wording, we do need someone else
We need you and the muppet you've quoted, as you clearly know way more than that clown Kompany.
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Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:57 pm

Freeeeee Nathan Tella

https://youtu.be/AgcTvoWjZJU
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:58 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 pm
We need to get sone money back for Weghorst not a loan out.
Pretty sure there will be a loan fee plus getting his wage off our books as well as his bottom lip.

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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:01 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Freeeeee Nathan Tella

https://youtu.be/AgcTvoWjZJU
He only one man in a large army.
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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:02 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:55 pm
We need you and the muppet you've quoted, as you clearly know way more than that clown Kompany.
I can forgive Kompany this mistake in the transfer market. He got most of the other signings right. We’ll just have to hope that we can either loan Foster out or better yet sell him and put the bit of money we might get for him towards someone half decent.

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Post by Commy » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:07 pm

We have been making money on Weghorst. We managed to get two loan payments last season. We got one from Besiktas then, according to the press, Utd had to pay them off and pay us a loan fee. I think, due to the size of the clubs, that his wages will have been paid as well. Keep loaning him and we will have had our money back and got away without paying wages :) . We are doing a Chelsea but in a minute way compared to their 50 odd loanees.
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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:08 pm

Tinribs wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:00 pm
Panic mode and it’s still June,typical of this board
Not panic mode, just realistic. That’s when you get the best value. Don’t forget we didn’t sign Benson, Zaroury, Tella or Beyer until after the season had started.

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Post by Commy » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:15 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:02 pm
I can forgive Kompany this mistake in the transfer market. He got most of the other signings right. We’ll just have to hope that we can either loan Foster out or better yet sell him and put the bit of money we might get for him towards someone half decent.
Foster had to get used to moving to another country and used to a different style of play. He was getting better towards the end of the season and looked really good at Bristol City. It was a shame he got concussed. He has the pace and strength needed in the Premier and I actually think he has something about him which, hopefully, a pre season will sort. Kompany and Bellamy have obviously seen something to pay the money they did. These players need to be given time. Quite a few of the players didn't really look good at the start last season, Benson especially, but they came good with more practice and once they had settled into a new environment and country.
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Post by Cap » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:23 pm

Commy wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:15 pm
Foster had to get used to moving to another country and used to a different style of play. He was getting better towards the end of the season and looked really good at Bristol City. It was a shame he got concussed. He has the pace and strength needed in the Premier and I actually think he has something about him which, hopefully, a pre season will sort. Kompany and Bellamy have obviously seen something to pay the money they did. These players need to be given time. Quite a few of the players didn't really look good at the start last season, Benson especially, but they came good with more practice and once they had settled into a new environment and country.
I think this is a good point. I thought Benson was going to be a dud. Looked fast but couldn't cross and couldn't shoot. At Watford he felt the physicality of the championship and went into his shell. Kompany took him out of the firing line and when he came back in he was somthing else. Kompany probably told the other players to rough him up in training 😂
Tella didn't exactly hit the ground running either and he already had experience of the English league.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:26 pm

Cap wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:23 pm
I think this is a good point. I thought Benson was going to be a dud. Looked fast but couldn't cross and couldn't shoot. At Watford he felt the physicality of the championship and went into his shell. Kompany took him out of the firing line and when he came back in he was somthing else. Kompany probably told the other players to rough him up in training 😂
Tella didn't exactly hit the ground running either and he already had experience of the English league.
I’d argue that out of all of them, Tella absolutely hit the ground running.
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:29 am

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:00 pm
Yet people are convinced pony Foster will produce the goods in the Premier League despite his finishing in the Championship…
The record's stuck....The record's stuck....The record's stuck....
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Post by davideyresleftear » Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:24 am

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:02 pm
I can forgive Kompany this mistake in the transfer market. He got most of the other signings right. We’ll just have to hope that we can either loan Foster out or better yet sell him and put the bit of money we might get for him towards someone half decent.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree. You are definitely talking solid gold sense.

I, too, think that the 22 year old we signed from a different country should be considered an utter failure at this point. After all, he's played in a whole 11 games, and racked up a massive 362 minutes. That's a whole 33 minutes per appearance! I mean, come on. He should be scoring braces in each one at the minimum.

Kompany needs to forget all the careful scouting he did and press the sell button on this guy. Bin him off ASAP. Like you said, hopefully we'll get a 'bit' of the money we paid for him back. I've always said, give a new player from a foreign league 11 appearances. If he's not scored at least 10 goals by then, sell him at a loss.
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Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:07 am

I see the Foster bashing has resumed (if it ever stopped)

I’d like to see how well those perform within their first 6 months of moving to a new country and joining an established group of workers

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:12 am

Foster hasn’t even been in the country 6 months yet.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if was our breakout player this year. He’s clearly got talent.
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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:50 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:12 am
Foster hasn’t even been in the country 6 months yet.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if was our breakout player this year. He’s clearly got talent.
I'm far more optimistic about seeing Foster make a significant contribution to our success next season than Jay--Rod.
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:12 am
Foster hasn’t even been in the country 6 months yet.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if was our breakout player this year. He’s clearly got talent.
Almost ever single season there's a player for whatever reason the fan's like to get on the back of and moan about regardless, Hendrick was one Muric last season and many more before them and it looks like this season's new target will be Foster :?
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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:02 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:53 am
Almost ever single season there's a player for whatever reason the fan's like to get on the back of and moan about regardless, Hendrick was one Muric last season and many more before them and it looks like this season's new target will be Foster :?
Obafemi is my early prediction, and of course Brownhill (“not good enough for the premier league”) will be back because he gets overrun by 200m worth of midfielders a couple of times

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:04 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:02 am
Obafemi is my early prediction, and of course Brownhill (“not good enough for the premier league”) will be back because he gets overrun by 200m worth of midfielders a couple of times
You can be critical of players, it’s what makes a football forum interesting.

I have always been critical of Brownhill at prem level. I just don’t think he’s remotely shown he has the ability. Not to say I don’t think he will be useful. I just personally think if we are to be successful we need better midfielders.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:08 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:02 am
Obafemi is my early prediction, and of course Brownhill (“not good enough for the premier league”) will be back because he gets overrun by 200m worth of midfielders a couple of times
I was just about to say don't mention Brownhill but I am already too late

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Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:18 am

He will likely struggle against a few of the very best midfielders in the world, but will also play well against the bottom half sides, it’s just wrong to determine someone isn’t good enough to play in the league if he’s a few levels below the best players.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:20 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:04 am
You can be critical of players, it’s what makes a football forum interesting.

I have always been critical of Brownhill at prem level. I just don’t think he’s remotely shown he has the ability. Not to say I don’t think he will be useful. I just personally think if we are to be successful we need better midfielders.

Yet he has played pretty much every game at that level since joining us. You should just accept you got it wrong, why do you have these way over the top comments ? Previously you said he wasn't even a footballer and now it is that he hasn't remotely shown any ability when the truth is he has.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:27 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:18 am
He will likely struggle against a few of the very best midfielders in the world, but will also play well against the bottom half sides, it’s just wrong to determine someone isn’t good enough to play in the league if he’s a few levels below the best players.
In my personal opinion he gives the ball away far too much to be a prem player. Passing is just not his strength.

I personally think VK will be actively trying to improve on that position this summer. Not to say Brownhill won’t have a role, but I just hope he isn’t in our starting eleven.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:28 am

Back to transfers Nicola Shira is now tweeting our interesting in Vrankx

So perhaps this could be a goer

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Post by Firthy » Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:34 am

After reading most of this thread I really haven't a clue who we might be signing. But I do know that a few of our existing players aren't good enough for the Premier League
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Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:05 am

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Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:08 am

Not good enough to win the Premier League maybe but certainly watching last season’s matches they are good enough for the Premier League led by Kompany.
It’s always about how the team plays and my position on new players is that they may determine our final position rather than whether we stay out of the bottom three. We are good enough for that already.
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Post by Greenmile » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:09 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:07 am
I see the Foster bashing has resumed (if it ever stopped)

I’d like to see how well those perform within their first 6 months of moving to a new country and joining an established group of workers
I only see one poster bashing Foster, and he’s obviously a Rovers fan anyway.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by LongsideClaret » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:13 am

Commy wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:07 pm
We have been making money on Weghorst. We managed to get two loan payments last season. We got one from Besiktas then, according to the press, Utd had to pay them off and pay us a loan fee. I think, due to the size of the clubs, that his wages will have been paid as well. Keep loaning him and we will have had our money back and got away without paying wages :) . We are doing a Chelsea but in a minute way compared to their 50 odd loanees.
Unfortunately I don’t believe this to be the case. We didn’t receive a loan fee for Wout but his wages at Besiktas were partially covered. When he moved to united it required us to agree to releasing him as we had no recall clause in the contract. Hence Besiktas agreed to it in receipt of compensation of roughly £2.3m. We then asked United to pay us compensation of £2.5m to cover this. United then covered his full wages when they took him for the rest of the season. So other than saved wages and a minimal admin fee for sorting the January move we haven’t benefited financially at all.

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