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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:23 am

Peacock-Farrell being linked with loans to Hull and Swansea

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Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:56 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:14 pm
According to Football Insider Everton have now enquired about Tom Heaton. Maybe Everton are under pressure financially to sell Pickford
With the Man Utd signing of Mount, there are only 4 clubs left to make their first signing.
Wolves, Fulham, Sheffield Utd & Everton.
Will Everton be the last ? Common theme being the manager, Or will a swap with Pickford count.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:42 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:23 am
Peacock-Farrell being linked with loans to Hull and Swansea
We seem to be better at loaning than selling and getting cash back for our club

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Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:59 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:42 am
We seem to be better at loaning than selling and getting cash back for our club
Probably because his wage will be greater than a buyer will pay, therefore a settlement will be needed.

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Post by whiffa » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:19 pm

I see that Aster Vranckx's loan spell officially ended with AC Milan last night - hopefully that means now if we're still interested, things can progress.
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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:26 pm

whiffa wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:19 pm
I see that Aster Vranckx's loan spell officially ended with AC Milan last night - hopefully that means now if we're still interested, things can progress.
Fingers crossed 🤞

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Post by Casper2 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:11 pm

Collins going to Brentford for 23million

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:14 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:11 pm
Collins going to Brentford for 23million
How has his value gone up after a disappointing season??

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:17 pm

https://dailycannon.com/2023/07/lokonga ... -transfer/

He is going to be a great player for us

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Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:18 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:23 am
Peacock-Farrell being linked with loans to Hull and Swansea
That's quite a distance if you have to play both matches!

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:19 pm

Lokonga will be immense for us

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Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:19 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:11 pm
Collins going to Brentford for 23million
Any sell on?

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:24 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:19 pm
Any sell on?
I’d imagine 20% so maybe £600k to us?

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Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:25 pm

That'll pay for the Christmas bash!

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Post by Quicknick » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:38 pm

I like the sound of Lakonga. Vrancz, as well?

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Post by louieollie » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:38 pm

Am I the only one not feeling excited about lokonga 😳, this isn't a moan I'm just curious as to why some folks are seeing something completely different to what I'm seeing. I know it's all about opinions so please I'm here to be educated.

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Post by bfcjg » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:40 pm

Sounds like a South American dance.

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Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:46 pm

louieollie wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:38 pm
Am I the only one not feeling excited about lokonga 😳, this isn't a moan I'm just curious as to why some folks are seeing something completely different to what I'm seeing. I know it's all about opinions so please I'm here to be educated.
Fair enough. I’ve personally not seen a single minute of him so can’t comment. The only thing I will say is that if VK rates him, which he clearly does, then that’s good enough for me!
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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:48 pm

The Lokonga story is just a rehash of Nixon’s piece. Looks to me as though we want him permanently and Arsenal are fine with that, but the player isn’t sure after a couple of disappointing moves previously.

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Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:56 pm

If we end up with Beyer, O'Shea, Tella, Maatsen, Vranckx, Lokonga, Clarke, Flemming, Butez it will have been a good window. Guess I can hope.

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:59 pm

Lokonga was absolutely tremendous at Anderlecht. VK described him as the next Toure. He can pass, tackle, dribble, score. Just exactly what we need. Big strong lad too.
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Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:01 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:11 pm
Collins going to Brentford for 23million
He doesn’t like sticking around, does he?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:03 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:56 pm
If we end up with Beyer, O'Shea, Tella, Maatsen, Vranckx, Lokonga, Clarke, Flemming, Butez it will have been a good window. Guess I can hope.
Be looking at c.£100m there...cant see that level of expenditure happening

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:04 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:56 pm
If we end up with Beyer, O'Shea, Tella, Maatsen, Vranckx, Lokonga, Clarke, Flemming, Butez it will have been a good window. Guess I can hope.
If we get that il be happy but can’t help feeling we are lacking goals if that’s the only business we do

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:09 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:03 pm
Be looking at c.£100m there...cant see that level of expenditure happening
Not sure it would be. Can see us loaning Maatsen and Lokonga. Butez 5/6m. Beyer 8m. Flemming and Clarke 25-30m. Vranckx 10m. O’Shea 7m. Tella 15. 70 there, probably still pushing it.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:11 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:01 pm
He doesn’t like sticking around, does he?
To be fair, think Wolves need to sell and he was out of favour there.

Interesting to see how he does at Brentford. Maybe harsh but we went down with him in our side and Wolves were heading that way until Dawson came in.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:13 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:25 pm
That'll pay for the Christmas bash!
£5.6m bid incoming for Flemming tomorrow ;)

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:18 pm

louieollie wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:38 pm
Am I the only one not feeling excited about lokonga 😳, this isn't a moan I'm just curious as to why some folks are seeing something completely different to what I'm seeing. I know it's all about opinions so please I'm here to be educated.
Not every player suits every team, some need a team that utilises their strengths. Kompany knows his man, so if he thinks he is good enough, it's good enough for most.
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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:04 pm
If we get that il be happy but can’t help feeling we are lacking goals if that’s the only business we do
I tend to agree but I suspect Flemming would be earmarked for a forward/ false 9 role dropping between the lines.

Not many striker links

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:23 pm

I think Lokonga will join on a loan with option/obligation to buy if we stay up. Frees up some more funds to strengthen the squad this summer , whilst tying him down at the end of the loan deal.

I’m not sure that we will set a “budget” of sorts this summer. If the board see an opportunity that fits the model then I see them taking it.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:26 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:14 pm
How has his value gone up after a disappointing season??
Isn't inflation running at around 10% pa :D .Also depends what someone is prepared to pay, and Wolves knowing they need at least this money if they want to replace him

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:24 pm

I’d have thought Bees would have asked Ben Mee about Collins.
Stephen Ireland is his agent and has a good rep for looking after his young lads. Collins has done very well by him. £23m players aren’t paid peanuts.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:24 pm

With the rumoured\likely transfers do you think we will line up something like this:

Butez
Roberts, O’Shea, Beyer, Maatsen
Vrankx, Cullen, Lokonga
Benson, Foster, Zaroury

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Post by DCWat » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:24 pm
With the rumoured\likely transfers do you think we will line up something like this:

Butez
Roberts, O’Shea, Beyer, Maatsen
Vrankx, Cullen, Lokonga
Benson, Foster, Zaroury
You’ve missed Twine from your lineup ;)

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:31 pm

I don’t think O’Shea starts .

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:32 pm

I can see the rows of the CFS stand going alternate directions singing “let’s all do Lokonga”.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:34 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:29 pm
You’ve missed Twine from your lineup ;)
I must admit I’m struggling to fit Flemming into the starting eleven as well
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:34 pm
I must admit I’m struggling to fit Flemming into the starting eleven as well
Vranckx and Lokongo aren’t 8s so I reckon it’ll be one of them with Cullen then someone like Flemming/Brownhill further forward. Having said that VK changes things all the time so it’ll be pretty fluid throughout the season anyway!

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:41 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:24 pm
With the rumoured\likely transfers do you think we will line up something like this:

Butez
Roberts, O’Shea, Beyer, Maatsen
Vrankx, Cullen, Lokonga
Benson, Foster, Zaroury

Maatsen? Unfortunately I doubt it.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:41 pm
Maatsen? Unfortunately I doubt it.
Yes that one is totally up for grabs.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:35 pm
Vranckx and Lokongo aren’t 8s so I reckon it’ll be one of them with Cullen then someone like Flemming/Brownhill further forward. Having said that VK changes things all the time so it’ll be pretty fluid throughout the season anyway!
I could see it being Lokonga and Vrankx with Flemming as the advanced midfielder

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 pm
Yes that one is totally up for grabs.
I would love it if we could get him back.
To me LB and CM are the priority positions we need to sort out.

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Post by Commy » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:22 pm

Nixon says Coventry are trying and good chance for McNally. Doesn't say whether it's a loan or buy.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:12 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:56 pm
If we end up with Beyer, O'Shea, Tella, Maatsen, Vranckx, Lokonga, Clarke, Flemming, Butez it will have been a good window. Guess I can hope.
Not half it will!

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Post by Anthonini » Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:10 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:59 pm
Lokonga was absolutely tremendous at Anderlecht. VK described him as the next Toure. He can pass, tackle, dribble, score. Just exactly what we need. Big strong lad too.
Yep, so technical and natural on the ball, makes the right decisions, great vision of the game for a young player. If they can loan him with an option that would be perfect. He's a joy to watch. Needs to feel confident and receive the ball alot to excell. Probably the reason why arsenal is a bit too much for him at the moment. He's not a player that does the dirty work for someone else, at Anderlecht he had Cullen alongside him to do that. He's the guy that can receive the ball even under pressure and will always do something good with it. His work rate improved alot over the years I'd say he's ready now to start in the prem.
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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:05 am

Anthonini wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:10 am
Yep, so technical and natural on the ball, makes the right decisions, great vision of the game for a young player. If they can loan him with an option that would be perfect. He's a joy to watch. Needs to feel confident and receive the ball alot to excell. Probably the reason why arsenal is a bit too much for him at the moment. He's not a player that does the dirty work for someone else, at Anderlecht he had Cullen alongside him to do that. He's the guy that can receive the ball even under pressure and will always do something good with it. His work rate improved alot over the years I'd say he's ready now to start in the prem.
Didn't start much for Palace in the prem though

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:45 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:53 pm
I would love it if we could get him back.
To me LB and CM are the priority positions we need to sort out.
Given current striker options I would have thought that position would be a huge priority
And agree with your other two

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Post by roperclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:47 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 pm
I could see it being Lokonga and Vrankx with Flemming as the advanced midfielder
No chance. Cullen is the first name on the team sheet
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:30 am

roperclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:47 am
No chance. Cullen is the first name on the team sheet
I think you will be surprised. Cullen will no doubt play a big part this season but I think VK wants more ability and physicality in that part of the pitch

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Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:04 am

On the 'From the BeeHole End' podcast, they were suggesting VK may go to a back 3. Which would explain the Fascination with CBs

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