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by NewClaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:37 pm
equinox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:33 pm
Eh? That's a new dynamic, I'll give you that.

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by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:38 pm
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:10 pm
His legs are gone.
That speed over the first 3 yards that made him goals, has died.
Still be a legend for his time with us, such a shame that injury curtailed his Liverpool chances.
And his villa chances his Southampton chances and his West Ham chances
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by Paul Waine » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:59 pm
Nathan Collins from Wolves to Brentford, £23 million, reported by BBC Sport.
Maybe already mentioned, or maybe not.
Breaks Irish transfer record, again. Stoke, Burnley, Wolves, Brentford. He must enjoy moving house.
And, I see already mentioned.
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by Big Vinny K » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:03 pm
Paul Waine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:59 pm
Nathan Collins from Wolves to Brentford, £23 million, reported by BBC Sport.
Maybe already mentioned, or maybe not.
Breaks Irish transfer record, again. Stoke, Burnley, Wolves, Brentford. He must enjoy moving house.
And, I see already mentioned.
I’m guessing between £5m and £6m in signing on fees helps dealing with the “stress” of moving !!
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by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:03 pm
equinox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:35 pm
You know when you take a little bit of salt between finger and thumb? That.
Excuse me?
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by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:30 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:17 pm
Leicester recruiting well I think. My favourites for champions as things stand.
and people accused us of buying the League !! They'll go into meltdown when they've finished spending and paying out all these high wages

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by CaymanClaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:36 pm
Funny. Nobody accused of us buying the league until we started winning games.... Leicester going a different route to us, buying known, experienced players. It's more high risk in that they'll be spending a lot more in wages on players like these. They go up though and people will laud their astute additions, certainly looks good on paper!
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by ervi34 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:47 pm
We are in advanced talks for Trafford according to TalkSport. 19 million fee, another huge one.
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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:47 pm
19 million. Hahaha.
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by Flying Without Ings » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:50 pm
Surely not that much. Didn’t we refuse to pay 20 million euros for the lad who Brighton just signed?
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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:50 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:47 pm
19 million. Hahaha.
Btw I think Trafford would be a top signing but 19 million seems far fetched. I’ve seen them say it’s 12 + 7 in future add ons but still.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:52 pm
Serious question where is this money coming from?
Are we taking a shed load of debt on this summer?
in terms of the signing he looks a real star.
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:53 pm
ervi34 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:47 pm
We are in advanced talks for Trafford according to TalkSport. 19 million fee, another huge one.
He’s never worth that much, unless we’re getting Old Trafford as part of the deal …
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:54 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:52 pm
Serious question where is this money coming from?
Are we taking a shed load of debt on this summer?
in terms of the signing he looks a real star.
We don’t know where it’s coming from
We don’t know what was in the bank
We don’t know what they’ve raised in funding via people like the Watts
We do know most transfer fees are spread out over the duration of the first contract the player signs so we won’t need a huge amount now
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:55 pm
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:53 pm
He’s never worth that much, unless we’re getting Old Trafford as part of the deal …
It’s certainly a lot of money. Playing devils advocate he is one of the most highly rated English keepers around so potentially we see a large sale in 12 months time
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by Rick_Muller » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:56 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:52 pm
Serious question where is this money coming from?
Are we taking a shed load of debt on this summer?
I believe so, haven't they mortgaged the club against new loans? I'm sure I read that a few weeks ago. I may be wrong, happy to be corrected.
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by Rick_Muller » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:57 pm
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:53 pm
He’s never worth that much, unless we’re getting Old Trafford as part of the deal …
Cricket ground I hope, not United's patch that's falling apart

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by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:58 pm
equinox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:23 pm
We already have a better option at the Club: He's a current Dutch international who has scored over 150 career goals in 5 different countries, still only 30 you could say he was in his prime.
I would take Rodriguez to outscore Weghorst in terms of goals per minute played this season (assuming they both play for us, that is)
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:58 pm
Does anyone still think Muric starts this season if we are paying 19m for Trafford
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by Blyclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:00 pm
Where have u seen this about Trafford
Not on any news sites. Post link please
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by Jakubs Tash » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:50 pm
Btw I think Trafford would be a top signing but 19 million seems far fetched. I’ve seen them say it’s 12 + 7 in future add ons but still.
Alan Nixon mentioned £6m plus add ons yesterday. That feels about right to me.
I think he would be an excellent 2nd choice keeper who will grow into a number 1.
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by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 pm
Blyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:00 pm
Where have u seen this about Trafford
Not on any news sites. Post link please
Talksport, but more importantly Jack Gauhan......13m possibly rising to 19m
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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 pm
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by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:58 pm
Does anyone still think Muric starts this season if we are paying 19m for Trafford
No
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by Cooclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:03 pm
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:58 pm
I would take Rodriguez to outscore Weghorst in terms of goals per minute played this season (assuming they both play for us, that is)
I’ll take that bet. 50p that WW out scores JROD. Say five games minimum?
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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:04 pm
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by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:07 pm
Cooclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:03 pm
I’ll take that bet. 50p that WW out scores JROD. Say five games minimum?
That's a slightly different bet, but I'll take it anyhow

. And i don't often bet.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:07 pm
Cooclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:03 pm
I’ll take that bet. 50p that WW out scores JROD. Say five games minimum?
I would be amazed if either get 5 games
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by equinox » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:08 pm
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:58 pm
I would take Rodriguez to outscore Weghorst in terms of goals per minute played this season (assuming they both play for us, that is)
It's all footy forum guesswork, which is great, so I'll raise you: if Wout had been available last season he'd have scored more goals in the championship than the Coventry lad Viktor Gyökeres.
Now think about that one.
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by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:09 pm
Flying Without Ings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:50 pm
Surely not that much. Didn’t we refuse to pay 20 million euros for the lad who Brighton just signed?
Brighton paid 16.5m
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by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:09 pm
Now its hard not to get excited by this sort of signing (do wonder what price Man City have on a buy back though)
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by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:10 pm
ervi34 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:47 pm
We are in advanced talks for Trafford according to TalkSport. 19 million fee, another huge one.
Not on any planet are we spending 19m on any player never mind a gk
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:10 pm
Jack Gaughan saying initial fee is 15m rising to 19m.
Wow
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by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:11 pm
equinox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:08 pm
It's all footy forum guesswork, which is great, so I'll raise you: if Wout had been available last season he'd have scored more goals in the championship than the Coventry lad Viktor Gyökeres.
Now think about that one.
That's a very bold prediction, which of course cannot be substsntiated. I'll try this one:
Had Gyokeres played for Man Utd in the PL last season he would have scored

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by NewClaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:12 pm
Jesus. We are paying some big big money for very young players.
I hope this is a BOGOF deal with… erm not Harwood Bellis all things considered… let’s say McAtee.
Credit to Nixon on this one, he’s been banging on about Trafford for ages and I didn’t believe it but credit where it’s due.
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by NewClaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:13 pm
Does almost look like we held off to the last on this until Verbruggen moved.
I heard his agent got very greedy fwiw.
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by NewClaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:14 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:10 pm
Jack Gaughan saying initial fee is 15m rising to 19m.
Wow
Really hope that’s wrong.
It’s absolutely mental he could cost double what we sold Pope for.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:16 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:14 pm
Really hope that’s wrong.
It’s absolutely mental he could cost double what we sold Pope for.
Some pretty reliable sources saying that now.
They must really rate him, isn’t that breaking our transfer record?
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by equinox » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:17 pm
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:11 pm
That's a very bold prediction, which of course cannot be substsntiated. I'll try this one:
Had Gyokeres played for Man Utd in the PL last season he would have scored
Touché
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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:18 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:16 pm
Some pretty reliable sources saying that now.
They must really rate him, isn’t that breaking our transfer record?
I reckon it would be a club record
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by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:19 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:10 pm
Jack Gaughan saying initial fee is 15m rising to 19m.
Wow
Indeed...staggering amount of money for us to pay for a lad whose entire career is 2 seasons on loan in League 2
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by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:19 pm
Again please can we post screenshots for those of us not on Twitter?
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by jedi_master » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:20 pm
If we’re spending up to £34m on Coulibaly and Trafford (yes I know Coulibaly is deferred to next summer, but still) then the idea that the likes of Wout Weghorst will be starting up front for us can be safely consigned to the bin. Highly impressive and ambitious to the extreme.
One wonders just how much we are willing to spend this summer. What investment have we brought in to be able to do this level of deal? If these fees are accurate then I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that we are still in for Mikautadze and Tresor…
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:20 pm
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:19 pm
Indeed...staggering amount of money for us to pay for a lad whose entire career is 2 seasons on loan in League 2
League 1 but I get the point
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by Father Jack » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:21 pm
It’s makes me think our budget must be massive this year if we’re in for GK’s at this level. With bids in for players in other positions too. Guess we’ll find out in the next 4 weeks when everything has come together.
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by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:21 pm
equinox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:17 pm
Touché
It's all a bit of fun until we have something genuinely happening

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by RVclaret » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:21 pm
Fwiw Trafford has been immense for England u21s in these Euros. Not conceded a goal yet but it’s his calmness on the ball and decision making which has stood out to me.
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by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:21 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:55 pm
It’s certainly a lot of money. Playing devils advocate he is one of the most highly rated English keepers around so potentially we see a large sale in 12 months time
I think alk will flip players much quicker than the old owners tbh
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by bfcjg » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:21 pm
Young Trafford to Turf Moor.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:22 pm
Andy Jones (as good as it gets for us).

Burnley in advanced stages of completing a deal for Manchester City GK James Trafford.
£15m initial fee + £4m in add-ons.
Missed out on Verbruggen & moved quickly to Trafford has been another target this summer.
Question over the future of Aro Muric