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Re: Ashes third test

Post by JarrowClaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:23 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:01 pm
If it’s been so one sided all series how did one decision cost us the first test?
I guess you are on the wind up so shame on me for responding, but what part of this series has been 1 sided it has been a real contest from day 1. Yes the score line is 0-2 I get that but we could have won both tests probably should have won the first. We have gone big on dropped catches costing us plenty of runs and important ones Khwaja, Cummins in the first test and Marsh in this 1 stand out.
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:24 pm

Exactly!.......they take their catches too.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:24 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:20 pm
Australia flat-batting us to death at the moment......softening us up.
I wish we would do a bit of this.
But that will be an admission that the current way of playing isn't working.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:32 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:23 pm
I guess you are on the wind up so shame on me for responding, but what part of this series has been 1 sided it has been a real contest from day 1. Yes the score line is 0-2 I get that but we could have won both tests probably should have won the first. We have gone big on dropped catches costing us plenty of runs and important ones Khwaja, Cummins in the first test and Marsh in this 1 stand out.
That’s my argument.
I do think it’s been a close series. It hasn’t been one sided at all.
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:34 pm

Game drifting into boredom now.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Ampth7 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:35 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:24 pm
But that will be an admission that the current way of playing isn't working.
I’m inclined to agree with you, however, having thought about this the last few weeks, I also think that from 1-11, they are simply better than us! Who gets in this Aussie side from our team? Stokes, Root, Wood? Can’t really think of any other player that would get in to their team, and I’m not convinced Root replaces Smith or Wood for one of their quicks?
With that in mind, maybe the thinking is, we have to go hard and aggressive, because conventional cricket isn’t going to get the job done?

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by expoultryboy » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:36 pm

Not boredom , test cricket .

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by expoultryboy » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:37 pm

Fatboys right , they've got more between their ears than us . As for Ali , unbelievable.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm

I've got a ticket for tomorrow. I fear it could be a couple of sessions of them building up a big lead then an hour of England swishing and wickets falling. All interspersed by thundery showers.

Hope I'm wrong but it seems that is the way it's going.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by JarrowClaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:40 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:32 pm
That’s my argument.
I do think it’s been a close series. It hasn’t been one sided at all.
Ahhh apologies I tried to find what you replied too and couldn’t find it and took it as read didn’t realise it was sarcasm😉.
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:41 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm
I've got a ticket for tomorrow. I fear it could be a couple of sessions of them building up a big lead then an hour of England swishing and wickets falling. All interspersed by thundery showers.

Hope I'm wrong but it seems that is the way it's going.
In what way, based on the 2 and a half tests gone so far, has that SEEMED to be the way it's going? Every test has so far swung to and fro, one team on top, the other battling back to reassert - brilliance, drama, mistakes, skills - this series has had it all, with all 3 games so far very very tight.

It's test cricket at it's enthralling best, a story unwound over many sessions and many hours of toil.

Enjoy it..... it might not be around for too much longer.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:45 pm

If watching Khawaja bat is classed as entertainment then I’m out

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by equinox » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:45 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm
I've got a ticket for tomorrow. I fear it could be a couple of sessions of them building up a big lead then an hour of England swishing and wickets falling. All interspersed by thundery showers.

Hope I'm wrong but it seems that is the way it's going.
Don't go then.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by equinox » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:46 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:45 pm
If watching Khawaja bat is classed as entertainment then I’m out
How were you out, stumped?

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:48 pm

No. Run out ……. Of patience
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:49 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:59 pm
It's another cracking game though, just hope England can at least scrape a draw so Old Trafford isn't completely dead.
You and me both quoon. Itll be a long trail up there for me if it's a dead game. 😐

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:52 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:41 pm
In what way, based on the 2 and a half tests gone so far, has that SEEMED to be the way it's going? Every test has so far swung to and fro, one team on top, the other battling back to reassert - brilliance, drama, mistakes, skills - this series has had it all, with all 3 games so far very very tight.

It's test cricket at it's enthralling best, a story unwound over many sessions and many hours of toil.

Enjoy it..... it might not be around for too much longer.
Based on how easy they are making batting look at the moment. Based on us being a bowler short. Based on our most potent bowler in the first innings looking innocuous by comparison.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:52 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:45 pm
If watching Khawaja bat is classed as entertainment then I’m out
If it's not the game for you, there's loads of other formats of cricket for you to enjoy.... crack on with it.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:52 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:52 pm
Based on how easy they are making batting look at the moment. Based on us being a bowler short. Based on our most potent bowler in the first innings looking innocuous by comparison.
You could have saved all that text, and just typed Recency Bias.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm

Anybody else dislike listening to Mel Jones stating the obvious. She is the commentating version of Khawaja
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:56 pm

Nope.... she's a decent part of the commentary team - better than Nick Knight, Butcher and Kevin Pietersen
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:57 pm

FFS - He really does keep in Cymbals

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Casper2 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:57 pm

Bairstow drops another

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:58 pm

And another chance goes down

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:58 pm

Lucky he is out now to Moeen

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:00 pm

Wow a catch by a Yorkie

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:02 pm

Is there anyone who still thinks it's OK to play a pub wicketkeeper in a test team. Apart from the England selectors.?

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Casper2 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:03 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:01 pm
If it’s been so one sided all series how did one decision cost us the first test?
It didn’t help , that was the last test anyway .

You think it was a good idea ? ,you think playing golf instead of practice a good idea , or not playing your best keeper , or promoting a young lad up number 3 destroying his confidence instead of the experienced players stepping up , or the captain bowling 14 overs on the bounce in the last test and now can hardly walk , anything else .

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:08 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:03 pm
It didn’t help , that was the last test anyway .

You think it was a good idea ? ,you think playing golf instead of practice a good idea , or not playing your best keeper , or promoting a young lad up number 3 destroying his confidence instead of the experienced players stepping up , or the captain bowling 14 overs on the bounce in the last test and now can hardly walk , anything else .
It was the first test but anyway.

I don’t think we’ve made all the right choices no.

The argument I’m making is that we can’t possibly be in a one sided series yet we only lost the first test because of an early declaration, which is what you said.

You can’t argue both are true if you want to be taken seriously.

Just relax a bit and stop being so reactionary to things that go wrong.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:10 pm

Good timing

Just sat down after work and Smith caught by Duckett from Ali

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:11 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Nope.... she's a decent part of the commentary team - better than Nick Knight, Butcher and Kevin Pietersen
ANYONE is better than Pietersen!
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:11 pm

Mental

That is essentially two Aussie batsmen doing England batsmen things

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:14 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:02 pm
Is there anyone who still thinks it's OK to play a pub wicketkeeper in a test team. Apart from the England selectors.?
He's been awful!.......that one was straightforward, i think he was trying to make it look better.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:14 pm

Wonder how that recency bias view is looking now?

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by equinox » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:16 pm

Maybe this England team hasn't quite got the individual talent of the Australians but if you put both teams knackers on a weighing scale, England's would weigh more.
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:16 pm

At least JB gave Smith some verbals on his way out.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:19 pm

Nice floodlights at Headingley .......very creative.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:21 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Nope.... she's a decent part of the commentary team - better than Nick Knight, Butcher and Kevin Pietersen
Pietersen is horrendous - as bad as I’ve heard
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:21 pm
Pietersen is horrendous - as bad as I’ve heard
Don’t disagree but only marginally worse than Jones

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:24 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:23 pm
Don’t disagree but only marginally worse than Jones
She’s fine, no issue with her at all.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:44 pm

Four down - even the wicket keeper taking catches now.

Khawaja out for 43 and Aussies 90/4.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:48 pm

That's the problem with this Ashes, it's too one sided. What's the point of taking 3 wickets in an hour with them barely scoring any runs ffs. I've got a ticket for tomorrow, and i'm worried that even with the intermittent rain, I might not get a full day's play.... or something like that.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:49 pm

Thank goodness Mr Boring is gone

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:56 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:49 pm
Thank goodness Mr Boring is gone
It’s test cricket, not a t20 bash. He’s done really well for Australia.
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by footballdiedin92 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:11 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:49 pm
Thank goodness Mr Boring is gone
Am I correct to assume that you enjoy the hundred and that you believe anything over 140 characters should be the reserve of archaic scholars
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Re: Ashes third test

Post by equinox » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:27 pm

footballdiedin92 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:11 pm
Am I correct to assume that you enjoy the hundred and that you believe anything over 140 characters should be the reserve of archaic scholars
He thinks/wants that every ball bowled by an Englishman should result in a wicked and every ball bowled by an Australian should be dispatched for six.

Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:27 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:45 pm
If watching Khawaja bat is classed as entertainment then I’m out
Though it was amusing watching him avoid Wood's short deliveries.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by Casper2 » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:28 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:08 pm
It was the first test but anyway.

I don’t think we’ve made all the right choices no.

The argument I’m making is that we can’t possibly be in a one sided series yet we only lost the first test because of an early declaration, which is what you said.

You can’t argue both are true if you want to be taken seriously.

Just relax a bit and stop being so reactionary to things that go wrong.
We lost the first test because Australia are better than us and helping them with the early declaration made no sense , just an ego thing from Stokes , much like bowling 14 overs on the bounce

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:56 pm
It’s test cricket, not a t20 bash. He’s done really well for Australia.
Our side is definitely short of a Boycott.

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Re: Ashes third test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:31 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:28 pm
We lost the first test because Australia are better than us and helping them with the early declaration made no sense , just an ego thing from Stokes , much like bowling 14 overs on the bounce
We only lost the first test because they scored an unbeaten 54 for the 9th wicket when the game looked won.

We deserved to lose the second test but gave it a real go.

This test is right up there with them and this third day has been enthralling.

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