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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:18 pm

It's a shame we haven't been able to see Taylor in action in these preseason games so far, because it would have been interesting to see how he's been playing the left back role.

When we were linked with Coulibaly, many posters wondered if he may start at left back and hold his position in a back three out of possession like Man City do. If that were the case, you can make a case for Taylor suddenly suiting the role in a way he didn't last season.

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Post by taio » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:21 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:06 pm
Saints fans were quite prepared to drive him up to us just to get rid
The same fans are now laughing and demanding big money for him
Understandable if that's the case. He hasn't done much for them in the past but after a brilliant season for us, and given his contract, they should demand a high fee knowing if we don't meet it he could be a big asset for them in their attempt to get back to the PL. I think they should try to keep him.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:22 pm

I think if we got news that Tella had been signed, the reaction would be the most positive thing we have read on this Board since the window officially opened
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Post by dsr » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:22 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:22 pm
I still feel we are desperately short of goals. WW, JRod, Foster, Amdouni, Obafemi, Twine, Benson, Zaroury, Redmond, JBG.
I just don’t see many goals from that collection. We desperately need a 10-15 goals/season man up top, then the man playing behind him will get more space.
Desperately? Of the 17 teams who stopped up last season, only 9 had a player who scored more than 10 goals.

The 15+ goal men were Haaland, Kane, Toney, Salah, Wilson, Rashford, Odegaard, Watkins, Martinelli. Chances are we won't get anyone of that sort of calibre.

11-14 goals were Saka, Mitrovic, Moreno, Barnes, Jesus, Foden, Firmino, Almiron. You're still talking out of our price range.

It's not to say we won't get a 10-15 goal striker, but it won't be someone we can recognise as such before the season starts.
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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:26 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:22 pm
Desperately? Of the 17 teams who stopped up last season, only 9 had a player who scored more than 10 goals.

The 15+ goal men were Haaland, Kane, Toney, Salah, Wilson, Rashford, Odegaard, Watkins, Martinelli. Chances are we won't get anyone of that sort of calibre.

11-14 goals were Saka, Mitrovic, Moreno, Barnes, Jesus, Foden, Firmino, Almiron. You're still talking out of our price range.

It's not to say we won't get a 10-15 goal striker, but it won't be someone we can recognise as such before the season starts.
Even the 11-14 goals names above, are a very elite band of footballers. This is why Chris Wood, until the last season with us, was so important to us. Ask Ben Mee our ex captain

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Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:36 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:18 pm
It's a shame we haven't been able to see Taylor in action in these preseason games so far, because it would have been interesting to see how he's been playing the left back role.

When we were linked with Coulibaly, many posters wondered if he may start at left back and hold his position in a back three out of possession like Man City do. If that were the case, you can make a case for Taylor suddenly suiting the role in a way he didn't last season.
This is entirely fair.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:43 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:22 pm
Desperately? Of the 17 teams who stopped up last season, only 9 had a player who scored more than 10 goals.

The 15+ goal men were Haaland, Kane, Toney, Salah, Wilson, Rashford, Odegaard, Watkins, Martinelli. Chances are we won't get anyone of that sort of calibre.

11-14 goals were Saka, Mitrovic, Moreno, Barnes, Jesus, Foden, Firmino, Almiron. You're still talking out of our price range.

It's not to say we won't get a 10-15 goal striker, but it won't be someone we can recognise as such before the season starts.
Might be wrong but I think the next stat to look at is, every team that stayed up last season had at least 3 players that scored 5 goals.

Out of the current squad who do we think hits that tally

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:54 pm

Benson, Zaroury, Amdouni.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:55 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:43 pm
Might be wrong but I think the next stat to look at is, every team that stayed up last season had at least 3 players that scored 5 goals.

Out of the current squad who do we think hits that tally
Weghorst, benson, zaroury, amdouni, Redmond and brownhill

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Post by roperclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:57 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:54 pm
Benson, Zaroury, Amdouni.
Foster, Redmond, Twine

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:43 pm
Might be wrong but I think the next stat to look at is, every team that stayed up last season had at least 3 players that scored 5 goals.

Out of the current squad who do we think hits that tally
I think with Amdouni being brought in for the fee he has, it would be disappointing if he doesn't reach at least the 5 goal mark.

Redmond appears to average just over 4 goals a PL season, so it's not really a stretch to suggest he'll reach 5 goals if played regularly.

Then there's Benson who, if he can remain injury free, should be good for a handful of goals.

Zaroury has a knack of popping up in the right place as well on the counter, something we should be doing more of next season.

I do believe we need another attacking signing though - one who you look at and immediately identify as a strong goal threat.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:57 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:54 pm
Benson, Zaroury, Amdouni.
I think they are our most likely

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:00 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:57 pm
I think with Amdouni being brought in for the fee he has, it would be disappointing if he doesn't reach at least the 5 goal mark.

Redmond appears to average just over 4 goals a PL season, so it's not really a stretch to suggest he'll reach 5 goals if played regularly.

Then there's Benson who, if he can remain injury free, should be good for a handful of goals.

Zaroury has a knack of popping up in the right place as well on the counter, something we should be doing more of next season.

I do believe we need another attacking signing though - one who you look at and immediately identify as a strong goal threat.
I agree with a lot of commentary but in relation to Redmond I just can’t see it, he’s not scored more than 4 since 2018.

I think our most likely are 3 of Amdouni, Foster, Benson, Zaroury. I do think you are correct though we need someone where you recognise they are strong goal threat

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Post by It Is What It Is » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:15 pm

Wilfred Zaha from Palace to Galatasary.
On a lot less money than at Palace.
He went right under the radar... Wouldn't have said 'no' to him being at the Turf

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Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:18 pm

I'm not sure, personally, that more strikers is top of the priority list. We've got Weghorst, Obafemi, Foster and Amdouni, plus Jay as back up, for the central forward roles. That's 5, 3 of which have been signed either since promotion or with promotion firmly in mind in January. For the wide roles we have Benson, Zaroury, JBG,
Redmond and Twine (who I note has been written off as a wide player but as I understand it played predominantly left of a 3 for MK Dons).

That's 10 players for a maximum of 4 roles - plus the young lad we are apparently signing from Spain, and Churlinov. At some stage we have to back what we've got and go with it. It is possible we might want another but its got to be tied I think to someone leaving (either on loan or permanently) and id have thought it quite likely it'd be a loan. We will need to target 50 League goals next season and as this season we'll share around- but we have to hope that group can contribute 30 or so.

I'd have liked to see Tella back but it was always unclear we'd be able to finance the deal and our funds are not unlimited. Central midfield, and left back, are greater priorities.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:35 pm

Zeki is a new £15 million, young, highly rated no 9, I would hope he has the potential to score 10 a season.
If we sign tella I think he has the potential to grab at least 5.
Manuel can definitely score more than 5.
Zaroury maybe.
Weghorst, Jay rod, Foster are all forwards who definitely could score some if they play.
Zaroury will score some.
Brownhill will score a few.
Twine could score plenty if he plays regularly.

We have enough good players to have at least players with over 5 goals at the end of the season. I’m sure we will sign Tella and/or another who add to the number who potentially could bag these goals.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:38 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:15 pm
Wilfred Zaha from Palace to Galatasary.
On a lot less money than at Palace.
He went right under the radar... Wouldn't have said 'no' to him being at the Turf
:lol:

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Post by ervi34 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:38 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:15 pm
Wilfred Zaha from Palace to Galatasary.
On a lot less money than at Palace.
He went right under the radar... Wouldn't have said 'no' to him being at the Turf
But he would have.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:48 pm

Is this the week we sign a CM or 2 or do we think a quiet week on transfer front till we are back from Portugal and Spain?

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Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:59 pm

Rumours that the young winger from Spain is having a medical tomorrow

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:19 pm

looks like Wilf Zaha has decided to join Galatasaray, bizarre.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:19 pm
looks like Wilf Zaha has decided to join Galatasaray, bizarre.
Yeah can’t get my head around the move at all

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:37 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:26 pm
Yeah can’t get my head around the move at all
my guess is it's the only team that always makes the Champions League that has gone for him, he's long mentioned he wants to play in it. Other than that it makes zero sense !!

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:19 pm
looks like Wilf Zaha has decided to join Galatasaray, bizarre.
That is weird but I must admit that I won't miss seeing him again on the Turf running at our defence. It will be a big loss to Crystal Palace who are usually weaker without him.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:46 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:08 pm
That is weird but I must admit that I won't miss seeing him again on the Turf running at our defence. It will be a big loss to Crystal Palace who are usually weaker without him.
I won't miss him, I ******* despise cheats and he is the biggest of the lot
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Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:48 pm
Is this the week we sign a CM or 2 or do we think a quiet week on transfer front till we are back from Portugal and Spain?
Vranckx please. Would love to sign that guy

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Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:58 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm
Vranckx please. Would love to sign that guy
Wouldn't mind us going for Barkley who's not yet fixed up with a club. Seeing the pictures in the paper this morning, let's just say he's been looking after himself!!
A lot like myself, obviously....

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:00 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:58 pm
Wouldn't mind us going for Barkley who's not yet fixed up with a club. Seeing the pictures in the paper this morning, let's just say he's been looking after himself!!
A lot like myself, obviously....
Do wonder if Barkley is holding out to see if Gerrard gives him a call

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:00 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm
Vranckx please. Would love to sign that guy
Vranckx on a perm and lokonga on a loan would be ideal
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Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:01 pm

ClaretFelix wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:58 pm
Wouldn't mind us going for Barkley who's not yet fixed up with a club. Seeing the pictures in the paper this morning, let's just say he's been looking after himself!!
A lot like myself, obviously....
Label him under the same heading as Drinkwater.
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Post by ClaretFelix » Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:10 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:01 pm
Label him under the same heading as Drinkwater.
It's only really Chelsea where he didn't feature very much. Plenty of games at Villa and Nice, and over 30 caps for England so I'd say he's far more to offer than Drinkwater.

Probably right about Gerrard snapping him up though

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Post by beddie » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:46 am

Only just notified that Harvey Barnes has joined Newcastle. Very good signing.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:09 am

Re: Barkley. He even got England caps whilst playing well for Chelsea. It changed overnight. Leads me to think there was an incident. What that was I haven’t a clue.
I’d have him.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:04 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:09 am
Re: Barkley. He even got England caps whilst playing well for Chelsea. It changed overnight. Leads me to think there was an incident. What that was I haven’t a clue.
I’d have him.
He's done very little for the last 4-5 seasons and turns 30 at the end of this year
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:16 am

As I said earlier in this thread, we have been in for Barkley but must not have offered him enough.

Probably expects big wages being on a free.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:20 am

You'd need Barclays for Barkley
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Post by Pickles » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:27 am

I was adamant the England side should've been built around Barkley when he was coming through. He had everything. Still had a good career. Wouldn't be against him joining at all for that advanced midfielder spot.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:35 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:09 am
Re: Barkley. He even got England caps whilst playing well for Chelsea. It changed overnight. Leads me to think there was an incident. What that was I haven’t a clue.
I’d have him.
No thanks
He's good for a few months at most and then tails off, happened every single season when he was in the PL.

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Post by Casper2 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:46 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:46 pm
I won't miss him, I ******* despise cheats and he is the biggest of the lot
And you talk of being small minded :roll:

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:59 am

dsr wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:22 pm
...Its not to say we won't get a 10-15 goal striker, but it won't be someone we can recognise as such before the season starts.
Much like Tella was last summer.
I fancy both Foster and Weghorst to score some goals for us this coming season along with a few each from those around/behind them and Adoumi perhaps proving to be our dark horse.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:23 am

I'd be interested to know if that release clause still applies.

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Post by Gordaleman » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:29 am

Genk's Mike Tresor being linked now. He was Genk's star man against us so I'm not surprised.

https://getfootballnewsbene.com/fulham- ... ke-tresor/

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:31 am

It always felt strangely likely that we would be returning to Tresor to me. He was linked day one and I don't really see the signings we have made as being alternatives to him. Pace being at the Genk game was also telling...
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Post by ArmchairDetective » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 am

I'm not sure that article indicates much has moved since the last time he was linked. However the timing of the article is interesting given that Alan Pace was over in Genk with the team this weekend. The two owners will no doubt have had a chat about things.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:42 am

I said on here that I had a feeling that there was more to that Genk game than just a friendly.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:02 am

You’d imagine genk will wait until they have had both legs of their champions league qualifier before they do any business with tresor

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Post by Selby Claret » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:05 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:02 am
You’d imagine genk will wait until they have had both legs of their champions league qualifier before they do any business with tresor
And Tresor himself might want to wait and see if he's giving up a CL campaign if he moves

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Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:19 pm
looks like Wilf Zaha has decided to join Galatasaray, bizarre.
Favourable tax regime iirc

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ArmchairDetective » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:38 am

Selby Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:05 am
And Tresor himself might want to wait and see if he's giving up a CL campaign if he moves
We could be cutting it fine if that's the case.

Genk play Servette tomorrow and 2nd August. If they win that tie they'll come up against Rangers with the second leg not until 15th August. If they beat Rangers, Genk's final champions league qualifying match won't be until 29th/30th August potentially against one of Braga, Marseille or PSV, around two days before the Premier League transfer deadline.

As you say, Genk losing to Servette over this next week could make things move a lot quicker if we area interested in him.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:05 pm

Are we signing Koleosho today?
Any news?

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