Clarets v Spurs Match Thread

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:27 pm

And we go bottom.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:27 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:25 pm
Kompany ego appalling. Playing a right back at left back for the sake of it.

Wondered whehn you'd show up with your moaning bullsh1t.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:27 pm

Setting up like this, with so many inexperienced youngsters is doing those new signings any good whatsoever.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:27 pm

That's 5. Son again. This is awful.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm

Bit of a shambles to be honest but we’ve played 3 top sides. Don’t trust our defence at all.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm

Sorry for Trafford but he needs to serve an apprenticeship. Not blaming him for the goals specifically but the defence in front of him look lost. Muric might be the solution.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm

No words

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm

Al Dakhil might be having one of the worst premier league games I’ve ever seen.

Genuinely nothing has gone right for him. VK has hung him out to dry

Claret Alfie · Post by **Claret Alfie** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm

We’ve made Spurs look like City second half.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:28 pm
Sorry for Trafford but he needs to serve an apprenticeship. Not blaming him for the goals specifically but the defence in front of him look lost. Muric might be the solution.

Are we going to keep hearing this nonsense all season?

Muric would do absolutely nothing here.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

Apart from Trafford should do better

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

It’s going to be a long long season.

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

Going to have to imagine there will be several changes for the next game.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

Koleosho off for Larsen.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

I wonder what Tresor is thinking sat watching this.

Mrpotatohead · Post by **Mrpotatohead** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

Going to this 3 at the back or a 5 or whatever it is at HT has been a real disaster.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

This is nothing to do with playing top sides. This is to do with poor tactics.

I think Vinny has to change his approach next game.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm

11 goals conceded in 3 games (for now). Kompany really needs a long hard think about how we set up next game. Trafford needs dropping for starters.

CohibaClaret · Post by **CohibaClaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

Getting what we deserve. Naive recruitment, unbalanced squad and naive tactics. This is going to take a complete reset to save this season.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

I know we have played three good teams but my worry is that hammerings Like this are going to have a real negative on moral. So important to have a positive feel around such a young team.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

Really poor

and yet, going forward, really good. It’s everything from central midfield and behind that needs a total rethink.

We need to show some pragmatism I’m afraid with team selection. People perhaps starting to realise why Dyche (with no budget instead of £100m+) played the way we did in this division. It’s an entirely different kettle of fish and instead of shite like Ched Evans and Gary Madine bearing down on your mistakes, it’s Heung-Min Son.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

Schoolboy stuff now. VK needs a total rethink. Pace must be a very worried man

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

He needs to put experience in there. This is the problem Southampton had last season. They signed good players but they were young and had no experience.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:29 pm
Going to this 3 at the back or a 5 or whatever it is at HT has been a real disaster.

Yep had the complete opposite effect.

Kompany has a lot to learn at this level, one of them is being more pragmatic against these top sides.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:30 pm

They're good. Make no mistake.
We are vulnerable and too open.
This league is unrepentent and lessons are harsh but frequent.

Need experienced, strong characters down the spine.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

Can't see Vincent lasting this year if he doesn't sort that defence out sharpish. Utter rubbish tactically and performance wise!

A poor shadow of last year's team.

Wo Didi · Post by **Wo Didi** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:25 pm
Kompany ego appalling. Playing a right back at left back for the sake of it.

I didn't mean to like this once let alone twice

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

A long afternoon

hopefully there are learnings from this for the future.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:27 pm
Wondered whehn you'd show up with your moaning bullsh1t.

At 5-1 down he has a point

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

Crap. Again.

Forget about the tactics and personal. Which are obviously not good enough at the moment.

Focus more on the absolute basic - we look nowhere near fit enough.

LTUK89 · Post by **LTUK89** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:32 pm

Interested to hear what Vinnie has to say because this has been a sad watch.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:32 pm

We tried something different with the back 5 and it didn't work. We had to try something though we were going to lose anyway.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:32 pm

We are too high and open. We are not good enough to do that in this league.

I’m hoping this is a watershed moment for VK and he adapts accordingly. I think we could be lethal on the counter just need steady the back line up first

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:32 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm
Can't see Vincent lasting this year if he doesn't sort that defence out sharpish. Utter rubbish tactically and performance wise!

Pace has shown he isn’t afraid to sack a manager.

I suspect you’re right, after spending over 100m I wonder how long they give him this season.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:32 pm

It certainly shows the gulf between premier and championship . Still think Kompany will get it right.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:33 pm

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RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:33 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm
Crap. Again.

Forget about the tactics and personal. Which are obviously not good enough at the moment.

Focus more on the absolute basic - we look nowhere near fit enough.

Agree with the fitness point. We’ve looked shattered second half. Berge first half was absolutely blowing.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:33 pm

Last time we conceded 5 in a league game we won the next 9 games if I remember right

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:33 pm

Makes a mockery of those saying play Brownhill instead of Berge and suddenly we’re more tight, we’re even more wide open. I’d like to see Muric, Anass, Tresor, Ekdal and Taylor come into this side though.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:34 pm

Let’s not have any talk of sacking the manager.

Vinny is an intelligent man and an intelligent football manager. He’ll set up differently next time out.

Claret Alfie · Post by **Claret Alfie** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:34 pm

We were so good first half. I don’t understand the changes at half time.

Walkerpool · Post by **Walkerpool** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:34 pm

O'Shea is all over the place and we look so weak compared to Tottenham shocking defending.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:35 pm

Cork for Beyer.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:35 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm
At 5-1 down he has a point

You his mate? Have a look at his history. He's a wind-up merchant.

He talks nothing but laughable rubbish.

You think VK's ego is the problem? I don't think that is the issue at all.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Not necessary to be questioning the manager's worth.Tactics wrong for this game but he'll go away and sort it out

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:36 pm

For all the good in the 1st 25 minutes this second half has been appalling, let's have it right we currently don't even look competitive and the number of goals we are conceding is alarming to say the least

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Claret Alfie wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:34 pm
We were so good first half. I don’t understand the changes at half time.

We were gashed in both halves. Something had to change, but the route VK went was strange.

As someone else said, VK isn’t an idiot. He’ll make changes.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:37 pm

This spurs game is the worst we’ve been this season so far, he was wrong about it being City

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:37 pm

Need the international break. Need Taylor, Cork and Brownhill more involved too i.e. PL experienced players. Also, PLEASE, let's try Muric. The defence seem to much calmer with him behind them.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:38 pm

Fretters wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:37 pm
Need the international break. Need Taylor, Cork and Brownhill more involved too i.e. PL experienced players. Also, PLEASE, let's try Muric. The defence seem to much calmer with him behind them.

Muric hasn’t played with this defence?