£1.9 million would be about his value unfortunately
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Re: Ian Maatsen
A handful like Koleosho, oderbert, Amdouni, foster, Larsen, Zaroury, Berge and Tresor/Ramsey/Benson/Darko/Obafemi (when they find their feet/regain full fitness)warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:46 amI think I can live without Maatsen-he would not be the answer to the defences lapses we have made this season. On the other hand Tella could well have been a handful and exposed a few defences of teams we have played, and allowed Foster even more freedom. He is the one we have missed
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Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:51 pmTotally lose all credibility with comments like that
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Not yet we haven't but the starting transfer fee agreed between Manchester City and Burnley for Trafford was £15 million but if all add-ons are triggered the deal will be a total of £19 million, so In theory it's £19 million and that's why media and fan's alike are quoting that figure
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As said a million times, if we end up totalling £19m for Trafford we’ll have done very well as we'll have stayed up several times, loads of clean sheets and appearances for club and country. As it stands we’ve paid £14m or thereabouts.AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:39 pmNot yet we haven't but the starting transfer fee agreed between Manchester City and Burnley for Trafford was £15 million but if all add-ons are triggered the deal will be a total of £19 million, so In theory it's £19 million and that's why media and fan's alike are quoting that figure
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It's looking like 13 million too much!Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:07 pmAs said a million times, if we end up totalling £19m for Trafford we’ll have done very well as we'll have stayed up several times, loads of clean sheets and appearances for club and country. As it stands we’ve paid £14m or thereabouts.
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How much would you expect the u21 keeper to go for these days?
Why does every thread turn to a thread of folk that reckon they know more about goalkeepers than VK and his management team??
Odd, we’re very lucky to have two young hungry and talented keepers. We’ll need them both throughout the season but both are work in progress and require development over next few years.
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Perhaps half of 14 at the moment..... Unless the trusted journo's were all wrongHoltyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:07 pmAs said a million times, if we end up totalling £19m for Trafford we’ll have done very well as we'll have stayed up several times, loads of clean sheets and appearances for club and country. As it stands we’ve paid £14m or thereabouts.
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One fits our way of playing betterHoltyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:52 pmHow much would you expect the u21 keeper to go for these days?
Why does every thread turn to a thread of folk that reckon they know more about goalkeepers than VK and his management team??
Odd, we’re very lucky to have two young hungry and talented keepers. We’ll need them both throughout the season but both are work in progress and require development over next few years.
One is an all round better keeper
The other plays week in week out some how
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On your first point..... How do you know? I don't recall him playing in the Premier league, and we couldn't possibly play the way we did last seasonAGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:19 pmOne fits our way of playing better
One is an all round better keeper
The other plays week in week out some how
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Such a boring argumentAGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:19 pmOne fits our way of playing better
One is an all round better keeper
The other plays week in week out some how
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Granted he's not tried to nutmeg anyoneAGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:30 pmBecause I watch us play each week, Trafford can't play out like Muric
Murics favourite ball to Cullen has been cut off
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Only boring because the ardent Traff defenders can’t accept reality.
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As per MuricsCoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:47 pmOnly boring because the ardent Traff defenders can’t accept reality.
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Can someone point me in the direction of a thread that doesn’t discuss James Trafford?
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Not an ardent Traff defender just a supporter who knows we have two good young keepers that will both improve and both contribute.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:47 pmOnly boring because the ardent Traff defenders can’t accept reality.
Not every issue needs to be divisive as seems the trend. Traff or Muric? Happy clapper or miserable pessimistic ‘realist’…. Etc
VK and team have made their choice, Muric will have his opportunities.
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There’s not that many posts or people defending Trafford.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:47 pmOnly boring because the ardent Traff defenders can’t accept reality.
The reason it’s beyond boring is primarily you.
Nobody is in any doubt as to which keeper you prefer so why do you post on it every day and on multiple threads ?
And let me save you the bother - yes I’m being passive aggressive.
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I really don’t and haven’t but whatever.Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:34 pmThere’s not that many posts or people defending Trafford.
The reason it’s beyond boring is primarily you.
Nobody is in any doubt as to which keeper you prefer so why do you post on it every day and on multiple threads ?
And let me save you the bother - yes I’m being passive aggressive.
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Back to Maatsen…
BBC linking him with West Ham and Man City
BBC linking him with West Ham and Man City
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He would never get anywhere near City's side.Suratclaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:36 amBack to Maatsen…
BBC linking him with West Ham and Man City
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Boring yes, But valid
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Maatsen
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Manchester City and West Ham are expected to try to sign Dutch left-back Ian Maatsen if the 21-year-old, who has also been linked with Barcelona, does not sign a new Chelsea contract beyond the end of the season
Manchester City and West Ham are expected to try to sign Dutch left-back Ian Maatsen if the 21-year-old, who has also been linked with Barcelona, does not sign a new Chelsea contract beyond the end of the season
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We have enough wingers , we need full backs. Like it says on the other thread ,Chelsea don’t play him as a full back because they know his strengths are not in that position.
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Agent talk from an agent who's player isn't getting game time and less than 12 months on his deal.
If he ends up at left back for City or Barcelona next season I'll eat my hat
If he ends up at left back for City or Barcelona next season I'll eat my hat
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Re: Ian Maatsen
I we surprised when they signed Ake.
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Maybe but he had played close to 150 Premier League games when they signed him
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Re: Ian Maatsen
If you convince the chairman to part with 19 million for a goalkeeper .. your going to have to play him regardless how good he is
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Re: Ian Maatsen
According to sources, Chelsea have triggered their 1 year extension option.
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Looks like the ship's sailed, then. If it hadn't already.
He's gone, move on.
He's gone, move on.
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Maatsen
Obviously doesn’t want to sign for us
I don’t think we need to discuss him anymore
Obviously doesn’t want to sign for us
I don’t think we need to discuss him anymore
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Mentioned a few times on here, I expect maatsen to have CL winners medals. At his age, he's fantastic. The 30 million quoted might not be accurate, but it would still be a decent investment. He's massively underrated on here
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Also been dropped by Holland due to lack of first team football
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Yep, a few million pounds a year buys a lot of egg.
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I was surprised when we only received 10 million for Nick Pope .. I understand we needed trim the wage bill but was that the best we could get ?
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I’d be going back in with a lower offer. It’s absolutely crucial that we have him or someone of his Ilk through the door first day of Jan
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It seems it became absolutely clear in the summer that Maatsen did not want to join us. I don't see how that would possibly change in January. In fact, his personal case for not joining us has surely got stronger.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:47 amI’d be going back in with a lower offer. It’s absolutely crucial that we have him or someone of his Ilk through the door first day of Jan
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gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:47 amI’d be going back in with a lower offer. It’s absolutely crucial that we have him or someone of his Ilk through the door first day of Jan
He turned us down. I'm not sure he ever had any intention of coming back, even less likely if we are fighting relegation.
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Whether it’s him or not, we absolutely need to strengthen the full back areas as I believe this is the key reason for this seasons change of style
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He’d only come to us on loan. He sees himself as much better than us I expect.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:47 amI’d be going back in with a lower offer. It’s absolutely crucial that we have him or someone of his Ilk through the door first day of Jan
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Re: Ian Maatsen
Would be a fantastic signing in January, just a question of if he's hurt too many Burnley fans' feelings by wanting to play for Chelsea.
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I doubt there would be many who'd be against it. He'd be a great signing in most people's eyes I'm sure. Just feels like there's no chance of it happening.daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:59 amWould be a fantastic signing in January, just a question of if he's hurt too many Burnley fans' feelings by wanting to play for Chelsea.
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I recall some people suggesting it was his weakness.
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I think he’d be a great signing for the longer term, but I wouldn’t really want him to displace Charlie in a defence lacking experience. He’s our best defender imo and defending was certainly not Maatsens strength.
Would still like him though.
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I like Charlie and I was one who insisted that Kompany should be selecting him. But I would definitely still have wanted Maatsen here but that ship has sailed I reckon for now at least.