Bournemouth v Burnley MATCH THREAD

claret_in_exile · Post by **claret_in_exile** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:59 pm

It was the right decision - but an absolute shambles.

We've looked very poor again today. At least there's no VAR in the Championship ...

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:59 pm

We can’t blame VAR for that performance though

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:59 pm

I know we have been awful, but VAR have been worse.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

Another defeat

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:54 pm
Kompany needs to go, closely followed by VAR.

Other way around.

alboclaret · Post by **alboclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:52 pm
His head is through the line? Looks offdide

Yep first line was wrong so they needed another.

California Colner · Post by **California Colner** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

Been outplayed 2nd half

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

We don’t even get the full added time allotment.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:00 pm

So when Howard Webb was brought in and people said that's good he'll improve it, well that was a fking lie.

HollandsPies · Post by **HollandsPies** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

Poor, poor, poor.
A very difficult watch.
Where are the next points going to come from?

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

Kompany will be furious with that performance. Terrible. We made a poor side look good.

Blatherwickstattoo · Post by **Blatherwickstattoo** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

Get beat off palace and I think VK will be looking over his shoulder

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

"This is the worst we'll be all season."

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

Not sure where Burnley go from here

The players look a shadow

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

David ****

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

Sadly, almost as poor from us as it was by VAR.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

As bad as we've been that VAR decision makes you feel sick to the pit of your stomach

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

The real worry is that this squad just doesn't look close to surviving
No matter who is in charge
And who is in the nets

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

The big thing to remember after that game isn’t the contention around VAR - it’s how utterly terrible the lot of them were against a side that hadn’t won a single game before today.

A disgraceful performance to a man.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:59 pm
If that’s the case and he scores with his head fair call. Score with your feet and not. Basically var has ruined he game. Id have been happier standing with refs call’s. Rather than have a 7minute stoppage for some random guys who cant draw lines to try to make up their minds

Even if it was actually onside and VAR would correct it? As Potchettino said the other week, it’s not the car that is the problem, it’s the driver.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

How can things possibly get better?

Our style of play isn't going to change under kompany.

He needs to go.

BigGaz · Post by **BigGaz** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

If we extract the hyperbole and histrionics from the situation he was offside.

They drew the line wrong, you could say jrods head past the first one they did, so they did another to be sure.

Doesn’t seem as bad when you put it that way but that it took 4 mins to get to that conclusion, the right conclusion it must be said, is the crime and they’re rightly going to cop for it (again)

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

Bitterly disappointing.
We offered zilch in the second half, our attacking intent invisible.
Vitinho desperately out of depth at this level.
Gutted

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

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Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm
Not sure where Burnley go from here

The players look a shadow

You know where they go, you just don’t want to say it as certain posters will jump down your throat

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm
"This is the worst we'll be all season."

Any worse than this and we just will be threatening Derby's record.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

Only positive I can think of is that it’s clear Larsson has to start.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

That was an abysmal performance but even though we were that bad again, if VAR had performed properly we'd have got at least a point.

HollandsPies · Post by **HollandsPies** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

Poor, poor, poor.
A very difficult watch.
Where are the next points going to come from?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

Trying to stay positive but seems we were outplayed by a very poor Bournemouth side, and fair to say that our performances seem to be getting worse than better. Hard to see where the points will come. We get excited by playing the lower league clubs and make it easy for them. Confidence seems to be at an all time low

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:58 pm
I wish we'd signed Alex Scott.

To be fair she seems to prefer doing punditry for the BBC.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

Belgianclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm
Vitinho desperately out of depth at this level.
Gutted

Everyone is out of their depth at this level
None more so than the manager

Claretmisterg · Post by **Claretmisterg** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

We’ve not got the minerals

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Deservedly beaten but robbed.

I am never convinced about the offside lines at the best of times. It seemed obvious from TV replays that the guy on the far side was playing Jay on, based on the cut of the pitch. Just as ai’m not convinced about the timing of the pass freeze frame. 6 inches is within the margin of technical error for me.

But then to take 5 minutes over it, which kills our momentum, is a farce and wrong. Should be a new rule - if offside cannot be proven in 60 seconds it is a goal.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

I’m generally more optimistic than most but absolutely zero positives from that. Okay I’ll clutch at a straw and say Redmond who should start next game.

BigGaz · Post by **BigGaz** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

By the way, it’s absolutely ******* cretinous that people are calling for Kompany’s head after ten games at a higher level after the season we’ve just had.

A blind man on a galloping horse can see the problems, do you really think he’s unaware of them himself? No one is happy with the situation but he’s earnt the right to fix it.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

No point blaming VAR. Off sides are fairly clinical-I know it hurts but you cant change it. What you can change is fighting and competing for the shirt

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

The 1st angle VAR showed where the green line appeared was virtually parallel to the incident, the one they conjured up to disallow it was at least 30° off being parallel, work that out

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm

We are where we are and it is what is it for a reason.
We have been totally outplayed and dominated by both Brentford and now Bournemouth, teams who we at least should be competing against on the pitch.
The effort, thought and passion we had last season has gone.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm

No Foster a massive blow and both our cbs injured

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm

BigGaz wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm
By the way, it’s absolutely ******* cretinous that people are calling for Kompany’s head after ten games at a higher level after the season we’ve just had.

A blind man on a galloping horse can see the problems, do you really think he’s unaware of them himself? No one is happy with the situation but he’s earnt the right to fix it.

How long do you give it?

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

claret_in_exile wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:59 pm
It was the right decision - but an absolute shambles.

We've looked very poor again today. At least there's no VAR in the Championship ...

Regardless of the final decision, you cannot show one camera angle with a green line showing it was onside - then **** about for 4 minutes trying to find another camera angle to change the decision. There needs to be some form of communication with fans as to the reasoning why the original angle wasn't sufficient. It's not rocket science.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

Surely the offside 'rules' as they now stand are so far removed from what they were originally designed for ( basically to stop teams ' baby lining', not to disallow goals because the striker might have bigger feet or a bigger nose than the defender)

For me, if any part of the attackers body is onside when they draw the line then it's so close a call it shouldn't be offside.

Doesn't excuse another poor performance today though

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

BigGaz wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm
By the way, it’s absolutely ******* cretinous that people are calling for Kompany’s head after ten games at a higher level after the season we’ve just had.

A blind man on a galloping horse can see the problems, do you really think he’s unaware of them himself? No one is happy with the situation but he’s earnt the right to fix it.

I’m not calling for his head, but his transfer policy has caused these issues.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

Battered by a team without a win all season, following the last 2 games, says everything about this team.
It's hopeless.

We do have good players, but we have a crap team. A lot of that has to be laid at VKs door. He's had plenty of opportunity to change us, but instead has stuck with the same rudderless shite.
We are going down now, not because we lost today, but because our performances are just nowhere near good enough. Even losing to Spurs and Villa there were signs of possibilities, but that's gone. I'm so ****** off right now.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm
To be fair she seems to prefer doing punditry for the BBC.

I still think we should sign her

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

It’s actually mental what we’ve done, beyond ludicrous.

Six months of wrong decision after wrong decision.

It wasn’t meant to go like this? What the hell! Staggering.

Signings, system change, blind faith to new signings, everything.

If you’d have said to a Burnley fan in May we’d be as poor as we are with a motley crue of signings they have looked at you like you’re an Alien

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

Berge, Redmond big improvements. Both supplied cutting edge and midfield control.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

What is it exactly that everyone wants? Fat Sam?

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 pm

Hopefully they will release the audio