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Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Gp99 » Mon May 13, 2024 2:39 pm

Looking ahead to Sundays game I get the feeling Chris wood was under appreciated by fans at our club . Too score over 10 goals a season for 4 seasons or more in a struggling side takes some doing for me .
In reality we haven’t replaced him still and that’s 2 years on .

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 2:42 pm

'He's in here'

'Oh FFS, he's off-side'
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon May 13, 2024 2:50 pm

Best striker at the club in the last 20 years without doubt. people who dont understand the tactics we were playing will say "he's always offside"
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by beddie » Mon May 13, 2024 2:51 pm

I think he was very much so. He did a brilliant job for us and I’ll always be grateful to him for that.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 2:53 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:50 pm
Best striker at the club in the last 20 years without doubt. people who dont understand the tactics we were playing will say "he's always offside"
Ahh, it was tactical, he was told to do it?
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon May 13, 2024 2:54 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:50 pm
Best striker at the club in the last 20 years without doubt. people who dont understand the tactics we were playing will say "he's always offside"
I'd have Danny Ings, Sam Vokes, Charlie Austin or Robbie Blake to name just four above Wood
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Goliath » Mon May 13, 2024 2:54 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:50 pm
Best striker at the club in the last 20 years without doubt. people who dont understand the tactics we were playing will say "he's always offside"
Danny Ings, Steven Fletcher. Maybe Wood 3rd if we aren't including Rodriguez as a striker
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by bobinho » Mon May 13, 2024 2:57 pm

Offside a lot only because he was always “on the shoulder” which is exactly where he was told to be. So no, I don’t think he was under appreciated, I think his role made people think he wasn’t quite as good as he should have been if that makes sense. Very good record for us, and I think his best football was with us.

I was a big fan for a long time….
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon May 13, 2024 2:58 pm

equinox wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:53 pm
Ahh, it was tactical, he was told to do it?
at the time we were playing off the shoulder for the ball to come over, always going to have an increased chance for offside, thats the gamble that we took.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 2:59 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:58 pm
at the time we were playing off the shoulder for the ball to come over, always going to have an increased chance for offside, thats the gamble that we took.
So was he off-side a lot or not?

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon May 13, 2024 3:02 pm

The original question of under appreciated is a definite yes for me. I would have taken him this season compared to what we currently have up front.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Foshiznik » Mon May 13, 2024 3:04 pm

Definite yes from me.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 3:04 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:02 pm
The original question of under appreciated is a definite yes for me. I would have taken him this season compared to what we currently have up front.

What is it they say about hindsight?
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by claret2018 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:04 pm

He’s in the top half of the strikers we’ve had in that time but not in the top 5 for me

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 13, 2024 3:14 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:54 pm
I'd have Danny Ings, Sam Vokes, Charlie Austin or Robbie Blake to name just four above Wood
With no disrespect, Sam is the only one you can compare to Wood from that list and in my view Wood was head and shoulders the better of the two.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by clarets1978 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:29 pm

I think Sky came up with a stat recently saying that on goals per chances he's one of the most prolific strikers in the Premier League. Bearing in mind we never had possession when he was here I can see that being true
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Spike » Mon May 13, 2024 3:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:14 pm
With no disrespect, Sam is the only one you can compare to Wood from that list and in my view Wood was head and shoulders the better of the two.
Ings played when we wanted to which was very noticeable in his last season
Vokes was very underrated. He could make a poor goal kick look great by running towards the ball

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon May 13, 2024 3:35 pm

No.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Gp99 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:38 pm

Chris wood 67 goals in 226 appearances
Danny ings 71 goals in 224 appearances
Sam vokes 17 goals in 113 appearances

Premier league appearances *

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:40 pm

Woods the best finisher I’ve seen at the club.

I know people will say Austin but wood has done it at a higher level for us
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 13, 2024 3:44 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:30 pm
Ings played when we wanted to which was very noticeable in his last season
Vokes was very underrated. He could make a poor goal kick look great by running towards the ball
You could say exactly the same about Wood when he did not get the move after returning from the World Cup. That final season is why people tend to overlook what went before.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 3:46 pm

Repeating myself here but when in Rome.

The best goal he ever scored for Burnley was.........
















































Off-side.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:52 pm

Very much so during his time here.

Not only did he get into double figures 4 seasons running he missed games in 3 of those too.

17/18 10 goals in 24
18/19 10 goals in 38
19/20 14 goals in 32
20/21 12 goals in 33
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by CoolClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 4:12 pm

Only by the numpties.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by DCWat » Mon May 13, 2024 4:25 pm

He was limited but very good at what he did.

My biggest gripe with him wasn’t the off sides (he was up against quality centre halves trying to play him off side) it was his contribution during his lean patches. When he wasn’t scoring, he didn’t always appear to be doing enough for the team.

I think I’m right in saying that he tended to have purple patches followed by long ish spells without a goal. When he wasn’t scoring, it wasn’t always easy to see what he’d contributed in a game.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon May 13, 2024 4:32 pm

equinox wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:04 pm
What is it they say about hindsight?
Very true! :D

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Gp99 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:34 pm

What are people’s thought on Andre gray ? always thought he was a good finisher and his pace was electric

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon May 13, 2024 5:08 pm

His drop off, final season, until he was sold was astounding. He had been very good for us up until then.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Enola Gay » Mon May 13, 2024 5:13 pm

Absolutely underappreciated, to the point where he serves as a handy benchmark when discussing other people's football knowledge.

If you come across someone saying he was crap, you can pretty much dismiss anything else they've got to say.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon May 13, 2024 5:28 pm

Excellent and if Eddie hadn't done the dirty on us he would have scored goals which may have kept us up. Whoever sanctioned Wouts purchase wants binning. We are stuck with the lump next season.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by warksclaret » Mon May 13, 2024 5:33 pm

A bargain at £15m, scoring some great goals on a regular basis, then we sold him for £25m. Not bad business by the club

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by bobinho » Mon May 13, 2024 5:38 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:44 pm
You could say exactly the same about Wood when he did not get the move after returning from the World Cup. That final season is why people tend to overlook what went before.
You mean that final season in which we were relegated with a whimper, and the one where we played half the season with only 10 men?

People don’t forget when they see a player with clear ability who’s absolutely able to do a good job for you, simply down tools like he did. It affects people’s opinion because it affected us so very badly, and because the majority of fans in the stand would put more into it than he did in his last period. It’s tainted his tenure, and so it should.

Having said all that, almost unplayable at times for us.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by bobinho » Mon May 13, 2024 5:41 pm

Gp99 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:34 pm
What are people’s thought on Andre gray ? always thought he was a good finisher and his pace was electric
Wasn’t it George Best who once said of another player, “he can trap it further than I can kick it”? That quote sums Andre up for me.

Brilliant when he had no time to think and was just running onto a thru ball, absolutely lethal pace and power. Passing it to him normally was like kicking a ball against an upturned trampoline.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by bobinho » Mon May 13, 2024 5:44 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 5:28 pm
Excellent and if Eddie hadn't done the dirty on us he would have scored goals which may have kept us up. Whoever sanctioned Wouts purchase wants binning. We are stuck with the lump next season.
If the first half of the season was anything to go by, I’d suggest he wouldn’t have scored anywhere near enough to keep us up. Newcastle clearly thought they’d weakened us with that business… they hadn’t done their homework.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon May 13, 2024 6:04 pm

Gp99 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 2:39 pm
Looking ahead to Sundays game I get the feeling Chris wood was under appreciated by fans at our club . Too score over 10 goals a season for 4 seasons or more in a struggling side takes some doing for me .
In reality we haven’t replaced him still and that’s 2 years on .
What username did you previously post under, just out of interest?
Not trying to bully or anything, just curious as your posting style looks familiar.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Mon May 13, 2024 6:05 pm

When he hit a purple patch he was superb and up there as one of the most effective in the league. For a lot of the time though he could be incredibly frustrating.

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Post by Sgt. Pepper » Mon May 13, 2024 6:16 pm

Winner of FIFA's Golden Flag for four consecutive years.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Darthlaw » Mon May 13, 2024 6:27 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:29 pm
I think Sky came up with a stat recently saying that on goals per chances he's one of the most prolific strikers in the Premier League. Bearing in mind we never had possession when he was here I can see that being true
My overriding thought what’s that when he was on form, his conversion rate to chances was superb. The season him, Barnes and J-Rod were on fire they all were ridiculously efficient.

As has also been mentioned, the season he went off the boil his drop off in quality was alarming to say the least.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Mon May 13, 2024 6:30 pm

I think, especially with Barnes, with the way we played at the time, Wood was excellent. Get crosses into him or anything loose in and around the box he has been excellent.
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Post by Gp99 » Mon May 13, 2024 6:48 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
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What username did you previously post under, just out of interest?
Not trying to bully or anything, just curious as your posting style looks familiar.

I haven’t posted before just signed an account today been reading messageboard for years though .
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 13, 2024 7:18 pm

Sgt. Pepper wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 6:16 pm
Winner of FIFA's Golden Flag for four consecutive years.
Nice one :D

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon May 13, 2024 7:19 pm

Yes he was

He’s only 4 goals behind Ings in the PL with a similar number of games

Anyone thinking Blake was better shouldn’t be taken seriously

Wood was excellent for us until his final season
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon May 13, 2024 7:28 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 5:13 pm
Absolutely underappreciated, to the point where he serves as a handy benchmark when discussing other people's football knowledge.

If you come across someone saying he was crap, you can pretty much dismiss anything else they've got to say.
Exactly

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by Shaggy » Mon May 13, 2024 7:29 pm

He was under appreciated by some and completely over rated by others.

A complete enigma of a player, can’t knock his goal scoring record which in context for the teams he’s played for in the Prem is Fantastic. He isn’t a team player though, causes so many moves to breakdown and cannot hold the ball up despite his physicality, not to mention his habit of being offside. He causes havoc at set pieces, and seems to be in the right place at the right time to score which isn’t by accident.

Like I said a complete enigma.
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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 7:33 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:19 pm

Anyone thinking Blake was better shouldn’t be taken seriously
Didn't you support Liverpool when Robbie was in his pomp?

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 13, 2024 7:36 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:19 pm
Yes he was



Anyone thinking Blake was better shouldn’t be taken seriously


Blake was the better footballer. Not the better goalscorer.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by equinox » Mon May 13, 2024 7:39 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:36 pm
Blake was the better footballer. Not the better goalscorer.
Dress it up how you want:

Robbie Blake was better than Chris bloody Wood.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by CoolClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 7:39 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:29 pm
He was under appreciated by some and completely over rated by others.

A complete enigma of a player, can’t knock his goal scoring record which in context for the teams he’s played for in the Prem is Fantastic. He isn’t a team player though, causes so many moves to breakdown and cannot hold the ball up despite his physicality, not to mention his habit of being offside. He causes havoc at set pieces, and seems to be in the right place at the right time to score which isn’t by accident.

Like I said a complete enigma.
Almost like being instructed to play on the shoulder of the last man and asked to run on to balls / win low % out balls will cause him to be offside and not hold everything up.

Any time he had it into feet his holdup play was as good as any.

Not an enigma at all - an absolute key cog to our best years since the 70s.

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by CoolClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 7:40 pm

equinox wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:39 pm
Dress it up how you want:

Robbie Blake was better than Chris bloody Wood.
:roll:

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Re: Was chris wood under appreciated?

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 13, 2024 7:47 pm

equinox wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:39 pm
Dress it up how you want:

Robbie Blake was better than Chris bloody Wood.

And going back to the original question: yes, Chris Wood was under-appreciated.
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