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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:23 am

ClaretTony wrote:
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It's a while ago now - I think it's shocking. That's a title that has always been used as a special recognition. When I first started going it was James Grimshaw who I think had previously been chairman. Then it was Doc Iven given his years with the club as club doctor and director and finally Jimmy McIlroy for the most obvious of reasons.

Then, all of a sudden, Stuart Hunt becomes president.
I always find it surprising how few actually care about such things
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Foshiznik » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:51 pm

The title is just an americanism. In the NBA, most teams (or franchises to give them their correct title) have an owner, then a President and Vice President of Business Operations and a President and Vice President of Basketball Operations (think Director or Football/Sporting Director) then a General Manager then Head Coach. Similar goes for NHL and NFL.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by daveisaclaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:13 pm

But what if disregarding the history of the football club for "just an americanism" is actually bad? Could this attitude have other implications?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:21 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:23 am
I always find it surprising how few actually care about such things
Maybe because in the context of wider life it really doesn’t matter.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:21 pm
Maybe because in the context of wider life it really doesn’t matter.
Quite. There are a few fixations held by some people on here and while sometimes understandable to an extent, it does veer into self-parody at times.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:58 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:21 pm
Maybe because in the context of wider life it really doesn’t matter.
Problem being though for someone who spends a lot of his spare time investigating the owners in a desperate attempt to find some wrong doing, be involved with people who both contact MP's demanding they get answers from the club as well as FOI's being used for accounts matters anything to have a pop at the owners can't be missed.

It comes as no shock that those offended by this title dislike the owners.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by durhamclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:55 am

Do you think that the 1st team will be involved in the JJ Watt tournament in North Carolina in June ?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:08 am

durhamclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:55 am
Do you think that the 1st team will be involved in the JJ Watt tournament in North Carolina in June ?
I doubt it it’s more along the lines of the Soccer Six’s where its ex/former players and celebs
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by durhamclaret » Mon May 13, 2024 4:10 pm

Bumped into Dave Burnley at Spurs who said he’d heard Germany and Belgium
Any news anyone?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Jamesy » Mon May 13, 2024 4:15 pm

It was easy when we just competed in the Manx tournament. Ferry from Heysham, piece of p!ss.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by BradTee93 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:23 pm

durhamclaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:10 pm
Bumped into Dave Burnley at Spurs who said he’d heard Germany and Belgium
Any news anyone?
I'd heard a whisper about Hoffenheim but not sure how credible.

Hopefully announced better than last years was..

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 4:27 pm

BradTee93 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:23 pm
I'd heard a whisper about Hoffenheim but not sure how credible.

Hopefully announced better than last years was..
Yes, that was a shocker.

Really hope the club announce it properly and give us time to make proper plans. I’d have gone to a few last time with more notice.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by BradTee93 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:45 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:27 pm
Yes, that was a shocker.

Really hope the club announce it properly and give us time to make proper plans. I’d have gone to a few last time with more notice.
100%, I would’ve done the Mainz game had I not already booked Genk. Hopefully we announce them together so fans can choose & book flights/hotels at the earliest opportunity

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Blue Skies » Mon May 13, 2024 5:51 pm

How would Dave Burnley know anything and why would the club give him the heads up! Germany and Belgium would be most people's guess anyway as Ireland was with SD. Don't forget Mr Burnley missed a game in 1974 at Newcastle because the club didn't tell him or answer the phone in time when he was ringing up. My guess would be Germany and Belgium.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 6:38 pm

BradTee93 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:45 pm
100%, I would’ve done the Mainz game had I not already booked Genk. Hopefully we announce them together so fans can choose & book flights/hotels at the earliest opportunity
Yep, unfortunately for me they just fell at the wrong time for work but also remember looking up the prices and thinking how much cheaper they’d have been with more time to plan and prepare. Let’s hope the club do the right thing by supporters this year.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by forzagranata » Mon May 13, 2024 6:52 pm

Really hope we don’t come out to the USA for what will almost certainly be a cringey marketing exercise.

Better some decent warm-ups at home and in Europe that the fans can attend/make a trip out of.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Claretnick » Mon May 13, 2024 7:15 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 6:38 pm
Yep, unfortunately for me they just fell at the wrong time for work but also remember looking up the prices and thinking how much cheaper they’d have been with more time to plan and prepare. Let’s hope the club do the right thing by supporters this year.
In 7 weeks it's 1st July and probably the start of pre-season. They need to be getting a move on announcing any tour!

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by MeeActon1 » Mon May 13, 2024 7:20 pm

3rd August, away at Hoffenheim apparently.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by durhamclaret » Mon May 13, 2024 7:21 pm

Blue Skies wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 5:51 pm
How would Dave Burnley know anything and why would the club give him the heads up! Germany and Belgium would be most people's guess anyway as Ireland was with SD. Don't forget Mr Burnley missed a game in 1974 at Newcastle because the club didn't tell him or answer the phone in time when he was ringing up. My guess would be Germany and Belgium.
Who said anything about Dave Burnley being given the heads up by the club, it was only rumours what he heard, guessing the same as you. Why pick on Dave ?
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by dougcollins » Mon May 13, 2024 9:28 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:15 pm
It was easy when we just competed in the Manx tournament. Ferry from Heysham, piece of p!ss.
Have you seen the price these days?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 9:39 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:15 pm
In 7 weeks it's 1st July and probably the start of pre-season. They need to be getting a move on announcing any tour!
I seem to remember it was just a few weeks notice last time.

I’d prefer it if they even released provisional dates for games and the intended country, even if they can’t confirm the exact details. They could update it as matches get confirmed but at least you’d be able to research and plan around which you’d like to attend.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Jamesy » Mon May 13, 2024 10:00 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 9:28 pm
Have you seen the price these days?
No, but I would bet I could fly to Tenerife return cheaper?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 13, 2024 10:29 pm

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I'm looking forward to TST. I'd never heard of it, but was listening to Lee Trundle on Undr the Cosh last Friday. He was talking about it as he plays for Wrexham in it.

It's an interesting concept as every game goes to extra time. If the leading team scores one more goal in ET then it's game over, but the losing team can keeping scoring until they've won. It stops teams from shutting up shop during normal time.
I’m looking forward to this too.

Will be good to see JJ and Kealia play football in Burnley colours, plus having some lighthearted fun football to watch after an intense season.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretinJapan » Mon May 13, 2024 11:31 pm

Manx cup making a comeback.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

ClaretinJapan wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 11:31 pm
Manx cup making a comeback.
The Manx Cup was in effect the Lancashire Senior Cup although we did play once at Wigan in the competition.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 14, 2024 11:33 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 9:39 pm
I seem to remember it was just a few weeks notice last time.

I’d prefer it if they even released provisional dates for games and the intended country, even if they can’t confirm the exact details. They could update it as matches get confirmed but at least you’d be able to research and plan around which you’d like to attend.
I've just checked back on last year and these were the dates

Genk - played 22nd July - announced 30th June
Benfica - played 25th July - announced 17th July
Real Betis - played 28th July - announced 11th July
Mainz - played 5th August - announced 18th July
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by helmclaret » Tue May 14, 2024 12:02 pm

Heard a rumour it will be the Steam Packet Isle of Man tournament with the players getting drunk on the ferry over.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 14, 2024 1:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 11:33 am
I've just checked back on last year and these were the dates

Genk - played 22nd July - announced 30th June
Benfica - played 25th July - announced 17th July
Real Betis - played 28th July - announced 11th July
Mainz - played 5th August - announced 18th July
Thanks Tony. Sort of how I remember it - 2 to 3 weeks for most and less for some.

Would be nice if they could give us 4-6 weeks this time!

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue May 14, 2024 1:18 pm

I guess it depends how the club see pre-season. Its its purely a fitness / team bonding exercise, they may well see fan attendance as an inconvenience

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by clarets1978 » Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm

The Isle of Man tournament has alreday been announced. I think Lancaster & Chester are playing in it if I remember right

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 14, 2024 2:07 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm
The Isle of Man tournament has alreday been announced. I think Lancaster & Chester are playing in it if I remember right
Not heard from Lancaster on here for a while, maybe he’s been in training?

Would suggest Chester should spend less time analysing finances and more ti e getting fit if he’s playing.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by sjb » Tue May 14, 2024 4:37 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm
The Isle of Man tournament has alreday been announced. I think Lancaster & Chester are playing in it if I remember right
They are. Along with Isle of Man & Radcliffe.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 15, 2024 12:30 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 2:02 pm
The Isle of Man tournament has alreday been announced. I think Lancaster & Chester are playing in it if I remember right
I think this is a new tournament - the Steam Packet Tournament that we played in back in 1983 and then again in the early 2000s packed in a while ago I believe.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed May 15, 2024 5:55 pm

It's a shame the preseason fixtures were announced so late last summer. I think this was down to other teams cancelling and concerns around fan safety for certain games which involved liaising with police etc amongst other reasons. I don't envy the task of arranging international fixtures.

Let's hope they're announced sooner this season. Would be quite keen to get to a match in Europe.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 16, 2024 10:42 pm

MeeActon1 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 7:20 pm
3rd August, away at Hoffenheim apparently.
This is the only game supporters will be able to attend apparently.

Flights are about 200 quid return to Stuttgart
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Jimmymaccer » Thu May 16, 2024 11:17 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 9:28 pm
Have you seen the price these days?
They’ve got a fab new ferry tho……………like being on a cruise!

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Goliath » Thu May 16, 2024 11:47 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 10:42 pm
This is the only game supporters will be able to attend apparently.

Flights are about 200 quid return to Stuttgart
Usually much cheaper to fly to Cologne and get the train for anyone on a budget.
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Claret86 » Fri May 17, 2024 1:01 am

After this seasons disaster, it would be nice to announce things early for fans so we have something to look forward to.
I went to genk last summer and it was a brilliant trip

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Mad_tony_c » Fri May 17, 2024 2:17 am

We went to Mainz and it was an epic trip!

Going to Frankfurt and gelsenkirchen for the euros this summer :)

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Claret86 » Fri May 17, 2024 8:43 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 10:42 pm
This is the only game supporters will be able to attend apparently.

Flights are about 200 quid return to Stuttgart
Any idea when it will be announced?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 17, 2024 8:47 am

I'll miss that as im being all cultured in Edinburgh

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 17, 2024 9:02 am

Claret86 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 8:43 am
Any idea when it will be announced?
No sorry, it was just picked up on twitter from two people on the supporters board.

Judging by how late they send away tickets out and put the Forest tickets on the exchange, I would say a week before.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by BradTee93 » Fri May 17, 2024 9:49 am

Flights from Manc - Cologne were £102 including the 'seat fees'.

To Frankfurt/Stuttgart they were roughly £200/£250.

For sake of the price...I've took the gamble! It'll either be Hoffenheim away or a random weekend in Cologne :lol:
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri May 17, 2024 9:59 am

Mad_tony_c wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 2:17 am
We went to Mainz and it was an epic trip!

Going to Frankfurt and gelsenkirchen for the euros this summer :)
I went to both those places for the Euros 2006, great choices. You'll have a class time
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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 17, 2024 10:25 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 10:42 pm
This is the only game supporters will be able to attend apparently.

Flights are about 200 quid return to Stuttgart
We will see

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 17, 2024 10:43 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 10:25 am
We will see
Only feeding back what I have read.

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 10:43 am
Only feeding back what I have read.
I know - I've seen it too

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am

BradTee93 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 9:49 am
Flights from Manc - Cologne were £102 including the 'seat fees'.

To Frankfurt/Stuttgart they were roughly £200/£250.

For sake of the price...I've took the gamble! It'll either be Hoffenheim away or a random weekend in Cologne :lol:
Have you looked into train fares yet?

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by BradTee93 » Fri May 17, 2024 11:00 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am
Have you looked into train fares yet?

Yeah roughly £40 when I looked too Mannheim. Only about 90mins too, few cans on the journey sounds a good plan to me

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Re: Pre season tour

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri May 17, 2024 11:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 17, 2024 10:25 am
We will see
Are you hinting that we have more friendlies available to attend ?

Any at home?

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