Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 18, 2024 5:45 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:43 pm
How is Josh Murphy playing for Oxford? He's a class above in this game

(Unless they've switched him for his twin brother 😆)
29 now and peaked at Cardiff

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by NL Claret » Sat May 18, 2024 5:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:43 pm
Which of course after John Gayle all but ended Nicky Spooner’s career with a shocker of a challenge.
Amazing that he stayed on the pitch, it was horrific. Didn't Gayle say after the game that he didn't intend to break his leg and if he had he would have broken both of his legs.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat May 18, 2024 5:50 pm

How can that possibly be outside the area when the 12s’ left leg is in the box?
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 18, 2024 5:51 pm

how do VAR rule on that potential penalty in the play off final in less than 30 seconds ? In the Premier League that would take 3 minutes

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 18, 2024 5:51 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:50 pm
Amazing that he stayed on the pitch, it was horrific. Didn't Gayle say after the game that he didn't intend to break his leg and if he had he would have broken both of his legs.
I don’t know what he said but I do know what he did and then people whinge about them not giving the ball back. It went to court I think or maybe we settled out of court.
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 5:53 pm

I do hope the Lying Scotsman is enjoying this... 8-)

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by NL Claret » Sat May 18, 2024 5:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:51 pm
I don’t know what he said but I do know what he did and then people whinge about them not giving the ball back. It went to court I think or maybe we settled out of court.
If we'd had defended the corner better the not throwing the ball back would never get mentioned.

It really was an x rated horror tackle.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 18, 2024 5:54 pm

Commentator said that Thomason has collected more cards than Clinton’s this season. He’s had one red and that was his 22nd yellow.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by distortiondave » Sat May 18, 2024 5:55 pm

The bloke who just got booked for Oxford has been booked 22 times this season! Every other game, more or less.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ICL » Sat May 18, 2024 5:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:43 pm
Which of course after John Gayle all but ended Nicky Spooner’s career with a shocker of a challenge.
I was out yesterday in Southport (bird watching) and got talking to someone who was a Bolton fan, who was going down to Wembley today. When he found out I was a Burnley fan, he immediately brought the incident up (he was there), and said he was sure Gayle had been told to take Spooner out of the game.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 18, 2024 5:58 pm

I've not seen any Bolton games this season - are they usually this bad ?

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by NottsClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:01 pm

Biggest play off no-show since Sheff Utd in 2009.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by CoolClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:03 pm

That Ricardo Santos has played so bad. Holy hell.

I hate to bring it up/flog a dead horse but seeing this, how the hell did we sign a keeper from L1 to play in the PL?!

Absolutely obscene it's dross. Awful standard of football.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Sat May 18, 2024 6:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 5:58 pm
I've not seen any Bolton games this season - are they usually this bad ?
No! They just haven't been allowed to play today.
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:09 pm

Saved their worst performance for their most important
game.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat May 18, 2024 6:09 pm

If this is the standard that we’re going to be watching in 2034 then I’m giving up on football
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat May 18, 2024 6:10 pm

Oxford have defended superbly. Dare I say we could learn a thing or two from their approach to holding onto a lead. Bolton have really lacked quality. Haven't watched any league one football recently but expected to see more from them.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat May 18, 2024 6:13 pm

Manchester to Oxford is just a mere £98 return on the train :shock: (can get £55 return if booked three months in advance).

Think this might be one for a car share.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by 4:20 » Sat May 18, 2024 6:15 pm

They just haven't turned up have Bolton. Very frustrating to watch. Itching for a goal to make the tie interesting but they're never getting a goal back today.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Lip » Sat May 18, 2024 6:17 pm

Well done Poxford,10yrs ahead of Bolton. 😆

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Myk » Sat May 18, 2024 6:17 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:09 pm
If this is the standard that we’re going to be watching in 2034 then I’m giving up on football
Aha. I see what you did there. 👍🏼

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Goalposts » Sat May 18, 2024 6:18 pm

Bolton just not turned up today , slow ponderous off it completely , they have been so much better than this throughout the season.
I work in Bolton and a number of my mates are going to be gutted. They literally had convinced themselves they were going up.

They drew with them at their place and battered them 5-0 at the reebok .. oxford literally looked a league above them today

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:19 pm

A great result and another local match for next season as we are close to Oxfordshire.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Quicknick » Sat May 18, 2024 6:20 pm

Delightful result.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:21 pm

Some decent pubs in Oxford, I believe, so ok for a good away weekend.

Unless it's a midweek game.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 6:22 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:03 pm
I hate to bring it up/flog a dead horse but seeing this, how the hell did we sign a keeper from L1 to play in the PL?!
Probably in the same way we signed a player in Koleosho, who other than 5 appearances for the first team, had only played for Espanyol B in the Spanish 4th tier. When McNeil made his debut for us he’d only played for the academy team.

Just because a player has only ever played at a certain level doesn’t mean they’re not capable of playing at a higher one.
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by 4:20 » Sat May 18, 2024 6:22 pm

Well done Oxford, Football League One champions!
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Aclaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:26 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:21 pm
Some decent pubs in Oxford, I believe, so ok for a good away weekend.

Unless it's a midweek game.
Well done to Oxford.. long, long time since I was at the Manor Ground, seem to remember Banbury was a good place for beers down that way.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by hetheclaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:29 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
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Probably in the same way we signed a player in Koleosho, who other than 5 appearances for the first team, had only played for Espanyol B in the Spanish 4th tier. When McNeil made his debut for us he’d only played for the academy team.

Just because a player has only ever played at a certain level doesn’t mean they’re not capable of playing at a higher one.
Think Jamie Vardy is the best example of that

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat May 18, 2024 6:29 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:21 pm
Some decent pubs in Oxford, I believe, so ok for a good away weekend.

Unless it's a midweek game.
Lots of great pubs in Oxford. I reccomend the Isis (amongst many other good ones)

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by hetheclaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
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Oxford for me - new ground to get ticked off next season rather than going to the Tough Sh!t Stadium.

Have a good day hetheclaret
Great day. Oxford battered them
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by NottsClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 6:30 pm

Hopefully we’re there on a weekend, make a nice trip. Much better than a retail park in Horwich.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 6:31 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:29 pm
Lots of great pubs in Oxford. I reccomend the Isis (amongst many other good ones)
I prefer the Hamas Tavern, or Real IRA Inn.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat May 18, 2024 7:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:31 pm
I prefer the Hamas Tavern, or Real IRA Inn.
Ha. I've wondered whether they have considered renaming it given what's happened in the middle east. https://www.theisisfarmhouse.co.uk/

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat May 18, 2024 7:23 pm

The Trout at Wolvercote. Lovely Thames pub. Bit pricey but gorgeous for a Pint/bar snack!

My lad is based at Brize so happy for this away day!

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Post by distortiondave » Sat May 18, 2024 7:27 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 7:23 pm
The Trout at Wolvercote. Lovely Thames pub. Bit pricey but gorgeous for a Pint/bar snack!

My lad is based at Brize so happy for this away day!
Apologies, Casper, but I can find Zero (0) terrorist links in your post.
This is the terrorist afficionado thread, yes?
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat May 18, 2024 7:47 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 7:27 pm
Apologies, Casper, but I can find Zero (0) terrorist links in your post.
This is the terrorist afficionado thread, yes?
Missed you DD sweetie!

Still into your metal?

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by bobinho » Sat May 18, 2024 7:53 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:01 pm
Biggest play off no-show since Sheff Utd in 2009.
Let’s hope Leeds add to it….
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Post by CoolClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 8:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 6:22 pm
Probably in the same way we signed a player in Koleosho, who other than 5 appearances for the first team, had only played for Espanyol B in the Spanish 4th tier. When McNeil made his debut for us he’d only played for the academy team.

Just because a player has only ever played at a certain level doesn’t mean they’re not capable of playing at a higher one.
Very different; winger is one position you can take more of a punt on and it's a damn site less risk than a goalie.

Koelosho still in and around a senior mens La Liga setup - which would trounce any team in L1.

McNeil was with the team, been training with them and was slowly introduced/re-introduced.

Those situations aren't comparable. No other serious team is taking a league one player straight into the PL.
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Think Jamie Vardy is the best example of that
Jamie Vardy slowly rose up the leagues and was signed in the Champ by Leicester - where he (eventually) helped fire them to promotion... along with a certain Chris Wood.

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by distortiondave » Sat May 18, 2024 8:14 pm

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Missed you DD sweetie!

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Post by dougcollins » Sat May 18, 2024 8:21 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 7:11 pm
Ha. I've wondered whether they have considered renaming it given what's happened in the middle east. https://www.theisisfarmhouse.co.uk/
Isn't Isis a shortened version of the old word for the Thames, 'Thamesis' - which of course flows through Oxford.
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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 8:24 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:08 pm
Those situations aren't comparable. No other serious team is taking a league one player straight into the PL.
Aaron Ramsdale, Bournemouth?

It’s a little disingenuous calling him a league 1 player as his contracted club was Manchester City.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat May 18, 2024 8:25 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:21 pm
Isn't Isis a shortened version of the old word for the Thames, 'Thamesis' - which of course flows through Oxford.
That would make sense. I lived in Oxford briefly and was never sure if it was a separate river or not

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 8:26 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:24 pm
Aaron Ramsdale, Bournemouth?

It’s a little disingenuous calling him a league 1 player as his contracted club was Manchester City.
When were Bournemouth in L1 when Ramsdale was there?

It's the highest level he played at, and never made a matchday squad for City - what else can I say?

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 8:30 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:26 pm
When were Bournemouth in L1 when Ramsdale was there?

It's the highest level he played at, and never made a matchday squad for City - what else can I say?
Aaron Ramsdale played 37 PL games for Bournemouth in 19/20 despite is highest level of experience being at AFC Wimbledon in League 1. That season he won supporter’s player of the year.

Because I think the fact that we signed him from the best team in the country counts for something. Calling him a league 1 player is a little disingenuous and I think intentionally so.

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 8:34 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:30 pm
Aaron Ramsdale played 37 PL games for Bournemouth in 19/20 despite is highest level of experience being at AFC Wimbledon in League 1. That season he won supporter’s player of the year.

Because I think the fact that we signed him from the best team in the country counts for something. Calling him a league 1 player is a little disingenuous and I think intentionally so.
Aaron Ramsdale was signed by Bournemouth in 2017.

I also think he's massively overrated.

Also - what happened to the two teams that had Ramsdale in their first PL seasons?...

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 8:38 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:34 pm
Aaron Ramsdale was signed by Bournemouth in 2017.

I also think he's massively overrated.

Also - what happened to the two teams that had Ramsdale in their first two PL seasons?...
Come on CC - I know you don’t like it when people move the goalposts. You said ‘No other serious team is taking a league one player straight into the PL’. I gave you Aaron Ramsdale, who Bournemouth took straight into the PL having only played at L1 level and supporters of his club voted him as the player of the season.

Your next two points are not really relevant to my point.

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat May 18, 2024 8:43 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:38 pm
Come on CC - I know you don’t like it when people move the goalposts. You said ‘No other serious team is taking a league one player straight into the PL’. I gave you Aaron Ramsdale, who Bournemouth took straight into the PL having only played at L1 level and supporters of his club voted him as the player of the season.

Your next two points are not really relevant to my point.
1) You said they signed him from Wimbledon which isn't true.

2) Bournemouth were relegated that season, no? How about Southampton last season with Bazunu? Then.. erm.. us?

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Re: Bolton v Oxford Utd - League One Play Off Final

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 18, 2024 8:59 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat May 18, 2024 8:43 pm
1) You said they signed him from Wimbledon which isn't true.

2) Bournemouth were relegated that season, no? How about Southampton last season with Bazunu? Then.. erm.. us?
1) I didn’t say they signed him from Wimbledon

2) Unless you can attribute Bournemouth’s relegation to the goalkeeper then this is merely incidental.

Look, you said no serious PL club would take a goalkeeper straight from L1 to the PL and I’ve given you an example of one that did. Not sure why you need to muddy the waters here.

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