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by CrosspoolClarets » Tue May 21, 2024 6:59 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 6:23 pm
Scott Parker Appointment Special?
Don’t.
I’m trying hard not to sense that this whole thing has a whiff of “the end” about it, meaning our 15 year adventure at the top table. When I think of alternative names, my knees buckle.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Tue May 21, 2024 7:07 pm
All I can think about when Parker speaks is that “Streets” song they put over his voice .
Poch has gone…Kompany will be linked to Chelsea before the night is out.
Poch to Bayern?
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by Darnhill Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 7:24 pm
One thing I'm sure of. If and when VK leaves, Alan Pace will be aiming high when he looks for our next manager.
This compo for a manager leaving under contract might be the new BFC model.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 8:24 pm
FairPlay for managing to get Sacha on but respectfully he talks complete rubbish
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by Vegas Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 8:27 pm
a few things on the live feed with Sacha, he reckons Kompany will go, Benson and Zaroury will go. Looks like this is going to be a complete mess if it happens
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by Murger » Tue May 21, 2024 8:56 pm
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 8:24 pm
FairPlay for managing to get Sacha on but respectfully he talks complete rubbish
Like what?
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by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 8:57 pm
Sacha making it up as he went along imo. Fraud.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 9:02 pm
Murger wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 8:56 pm
Like what?
The fact that in the call with pace in reference to claiming to wanted mark robins, pace told him we wanted him as an assistant to kompany, complete nonsense
Do we need to say anymore?
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by 100percentclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 9:16 pm
I'm big fan and regular listener of the podcast but that was a pretty poor episode tonight. After taking Sacha's word as gospel that Kompany wants out, they all just completely lost the plot and spent the rest of the episode wildly speculating about how the situation will pan out. A voice of reason was needed tonight although if present, I highly doubt Boden would have provided that given his obvious anti-Pace agenda.
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by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 9:18 pm
100percentclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:16 pm
I'm big fan and regular listener of the podcast but that was a pretty poor episode tonight. After taking Sacha's word as gospel that Kompany wants out, they all just completely lost the plot and spent the rest of the episode wildly speculating about how the situation will pan out. A voice of reason was needed tonight although if present, I highly doubt Boden would have provided that given his obvious anti-Pace agenda.
Agreed, was pretty poor.
Sorry lads but you were just taking Sacha's spin as gospel...
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by Raconteur » Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 pm
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:02 pm
The fact that in the call with pace in reference to claiming to wanted mark robins, pace told him we wanted him as an assistant to kompany, complete nonsense
Do we need to say anymore?
Sacha didn't claim that Robins was wanted as an assistant. He claimed that after speaking to Pace about the tweet, it was stated that we were looking for an assistant.
Robins wasn't the only person mentioned in the tweet.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 9:21 pm
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:18 pm
Agreed, was pretty poor.
Sorry lads but you were just taking Sacha's spin as gospel...
The leading questions ‘so Sacha would you say regardless that kompany 100% wants to leave Burnley’ of course he’s going to say yes
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 9:22 pm
Raconteur wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:20 pm
Sacha didn't claim that Robins was wanted as an assistant. He claimed that after speaking to Pace about the tweet, it was stated that we were looking for an assistant.
Robins wasn't the only person mentioned in the tweet.
Robins and Ashley Cole, you really think pace would disclose that information to him
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by agreenwood » Tue May 21, 2024 9:22 pm
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:18 pm
Agreed, was pretty poor.
Sorry lads but you were just taking Sacha's spin as gospel...
I’ve said this before, but it’s a bit of an echo chamber. I know they are taking the “5 mates in a pub” approach, but they rarely disagree or pull each other up on anything. It’s just 5 blokes marking a series of related points most weeks.
I like the pod and listen to it most weeks, but I’m often sat thinking “is anyone going to challenge that point?”.
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by Raconteur » Tue May 21, 2024 9:24 pm
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:22 pm
Robins and Ashley Cole, you really think pace would disclose that information to him
I personally don't.
All i am saying is that Sacha did not say that Pace was looking at Robins as an assistant.
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by helmclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 9:28 pm
I like the podcast, but prefer it when there is no journalist on.
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by forzagranata » Tue May 21, 2024 9:28 pm
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:21 pm
The leading questions ‘so Sacha would you say regardless that kompany 100% wants to leave Burnley’ of course he’s going to say yes
Erm - he could have said - "No, I think if the Bayern deal doesn't happen, he'll happily stay."
Or he could have said all manner of things.
I wanted to know if, based on his conversations and info, he thinks VK is very determined to leave.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 9:31 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:28 pm
Erm - he could have said - "No, I think if the Bayern deal doesn't happen, he'll happily stay."
Or he could have said all manner of things.
I wanted to know if, based on his conversations and info, he thinks VK is very determined to leave.
Car crash of an discussion if you can even call it that
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by forzagranata » Tue May 21, 2024 9:35 pm
When Sacha tweeted a week or two ago that VK was looking at options including possibly Brighton if that job came up - some were slagging him and saying he had no idea.
Time to slowly start to face up to things. I am sure Alan is.
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by Cap » Tue May 21, 2024 9:46 pm
I don't listen to it anymore.
Absolutely terrible podcast. Just a group miserable blokes who like the sound of their own voice.
Nothing positive to say and really depressing.
I assume this episode might have been a little bit more upbeat though as it was about the potential departure of VK. Unfortunately for them, Dyche isn't coming back. If its not the Dyche way, it's not the right way.
Move on lads
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by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 9:57 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:28 pm
Erm - he could have said - "No, I think if the Bayern deal doesn't happen, he'll happily stay."
Or he could have said all manner of things.
I wanted to know if, based on his conversations and info, he thinks VK is very determined to leave.
If kompany is that determined to leave he will mutually leave regardless of a job offer if he doesn’t want to be in the championship, managers have done that before
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by xxmunkyennuixx » Tue May 21, 2024 10:19 pm
Cheers lads, the effort taken much appreciated.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Tue May 21, 2024 10:24 pm
Good effort again.
As for the comment about miserable chats etc , we won 5 games all season . With very little positivity from the club all season what do you expect to be talking about?
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by Wokingclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 10:30 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:46 pm
I don't listen to it anymore.
Absolutely terrible podcast. Just a group miserable blokes who like the sound of their own voice.
Nothing positive to say and really depressing.
I assume this episode might have been a little bit more upbeat though as it was about the potential departure of VK. Unfortunately for them, Dyche isn't coming back. If its not the Dyche way, it's not the right way.
Move on lads
Good, well I'm still miserable after the season we have witnessed, but still alert to see what a mess the squad is in and it could get worse!
There was something positive said, "the Managers situation needs sorting asap" so that this oversized squad is trimmed and we get in what we need.
Keep up the good work chaps
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by Poulton-le-Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 10:56 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 10:24 pm
Good effort again.
As for the comment about miserable chats etc , we won 5 games all season . With very little positivity from the club all season what do you expect to be talking about?
Yes I enjoyed the show as well. Really don't understand the complaints about the guys being grumpy/miserable, aren't we all grumpy/miserable right now and in agreement that it's been an absymal season?
Keep up the good works guys!

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by Ightenhill_Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 6:33 am
*reaches for tin hat*
If anyone did want to listen again then the episode is out now as a podcast in the usual places...

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by John Johnson 1605 » Wed May 22, 2024 7:13 am
Cap wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:46 pm
I don't listen to it anymore.
Absolutely terrible podcast. Just a group miserable blokes who like the sound of their own voice.
Nothing positive to say and really depressing.
I assume this episode might have been a little bit more upbeat though as it was about the potential departure of VK. Unfortunately for them, Dyche isn't coming back. If its not the Dyche way, it's not the right way.
Move on lads
I love the podcast probably because I’m a miserable bloke
Keep up the good work chaps.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 7:41 am
Cap wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:46 pm
I don't listen to it anymore.
Absolutely terrible podcast. Just a group miserable blokes who like the sound of their own voice.
Nothing positive to say and really depressing.
I assume this episode might have been a little bit more upbeat though as it was about the potential departure of VK. Unfortunately for them, Dyche isn't coming back. If its not the Dyche way, it's not the right way.
Move on lads
In other words it's still like it was.
I lasted about 3 minutes of the first one, it felt like when you are sat in the pub and can hear the people on the next table with no knowledge trying to sound well informed
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by Ightenhill_Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:43 am
Thanks claretonthecoast1882- going to use ‘no knowledge trying to sound well informed’ as another quote for the PR campaign

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by dandeclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:49 am
Don’t forget the only took 3 minutes to figure that out bit….
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by Chester Perry » Wed May 22, 2024 11:46 am
helmclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:28 pm
I like the podcast, but prefer it when there is no journalist on.
do you mean apart from all the journalists that form the core group? because from what I have seen/heard there have been journalists in every single episode
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 11:48 am
Chester Perry wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:46 am
do you mean apart from all the journalists that form the core group? because from what I have seen/heard there have been journalists in every single episode
I think the might of been a hint of sarcasm in the post
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by helmclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 12:13 pm
I meant guest journalists.
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by ClaretPete001 » Wed May 22, 2024 3:46 pm
The irony of the modern world is that people who actually do something and have an opinion are regarded as miserable and negative and those that just criticise them are regarded as positive. Go figure.
Good show the only surprise is that the Pod Squad were younger and more handsome than I expected. Erm actually, I think I might be confusing it with the Justin Bieber Pod cast. Ah yes, yours was the one with the journos on it. Hmmm oh well.
Be interesting to see how much of what Sacha T says comes true.
I actually think VK would suit being a coach of elite players with a Director of Football etc much more than Burnley because I think he has proven he can coach players in a certain style of football appealing to elite clubs - he just can't coach them to be good enough in the PL on a Burnley budget.
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by CrosspoolClarets » Wed May 22, 2024 3:48 pm
ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:46 pm
The irony of the modern world is that people who actually do something and have an opinion are regarded as miserable and negative and those that just criticise them are regarded as positive. Go figure.
Good show the only surprise is that the Pod Squad were younger and more handsome than I expected. Erm actually, I think I might be confusing it with the Justin Bieber Pod cast. Ah yes, yours was the one with the journos on it. Hmmm oh well.
Be interesting to see how much of what Sacha T says comes true.
I actually think VK would suit being a coach of elite players with a Director of Football etc much more than Burnley because I think he has proven he can coach players in a certain style of football appealing to elite clubs - he just can't coach them to be good enough in the PL on a Burnley budget.
Yes but it isn’t the coaching, it is the decision making.
He needs to be a number 2. Coaching great. Choices not so great.
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by ClaretPete001 » Wed May 22, 2024 5:15 pm
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:48 pm
Yes but it isn’t the coaching, it is the decision making.
He needs to be a number 2. Coaching great. Choices not so great.
His in game management has been poor this season but you couldn't say it was last season. How many times did we come good in the latter half of games last season?
It's hard because I think he has been terrible all season but part of me almost refuses to believe how bad he has been or how bad I think he has been...!
I think we all have the same problem. How do you square the circle of a manager that could no wrong one season and not a lot right the next. My only conclusion is that the players were so superior in the Championship that whatever he did - he could pull it off.
So, yes I'm not going to make an argument against him being an excellent coaching number 2.
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by forzagranata » Wed May 22, 2024 9:55 pm
Wonder if we'll see any apologies from the Pacebots and VKbots who were slagging Sacha Tavolieri last night for his reporting on Kompany?
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by jedi_master » Wed May 22, 2024 9:58 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:55 pm
Wonder if we'll see any apologies from the Pacebots and VKbots who were slagging Sacha Tavolieri last night for his reporting on Kompany?
Doubtful…..!
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by daveisaclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:01 pm
If Tavolieri had been reporting Kompany to Bayern I think people probably would be contrite for slagging him off. As it is that was someone else's reporting and most of what Tavolieri reported still looks very, very dubious from the outside (per jedi master's summary).
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by CoolClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:03 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:55 pm
Wonder if we'll see any apologies from the Pacebots and VKbots who were slagging Sacha Tavolieri last night for his reporting on Kompany?
I don't think Sacha broke anything though mate - he jumped on a story and filled in the gaps with quite obvious conjecture - that's the difference.
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by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 10:04 pm
daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:01 pm
If Tavolieri had been reporting Kompany to Bayern I think people probably would be contrite for slagging him off. As it is that was someone else's reporting and most of what Tavolieri reported still looks very, very dubious from the outside (per jedi master's summary).
…and it is wasn’t only those who back Pace and/or Kompany who found it far fetched. Some of Kompany’s biggest critics were sceptical.
Plus this “bots” ******** is the patter of a child.
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by RVclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:05 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:55 pm
Wonder if we'll see any apologies from the Pacebots and VKbots who were slagging Sacha Tavolieri last night for his reporting on Kompany?
Proper whopper you.
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by forzagranata » Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm
Sacha reported two weeks ago that VK was looking at options to get and got slaughtered.
He was right.
Embarassing for the Pacebots.
Alan deserves better in so many ways.
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by daveisaclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:08 pm
agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:04 pm
…and it is wasn’t only those who back Pace and/or Kompany who found it far fetched. Some of Kompany’s biggest critics were sceptical.
Plus this “bots” ******** is the patter of a child.
Yeah, I really don't like Pace and I'm pleased Kompany is off. The stuff on the podcast was still pretty clearly made up.
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by forzagranata » Wed May 22, 2024 10:10 pm
Sacha has his sources - and no-one, literally no-one, was doubting him when he reported so many of the players signed from Belgium.
Classic case of shooting the messenger when he brings unwelcome news.
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by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 10:12 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm
Sacha reported two weeks ago that VK was looking at options to get and got slaughtered.
He was right.
Embarassing for the Pacebots.
Alan deserves better in so many ways.
Are you suggesting that going to Bayern this summer was part of Kompany’s plan all along?
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 10:13 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:10 pm
Sacha has his sources - and no-one, literally no-one, was doubting him when he reported so many of the players signed from Belgium.
Classic case of shooting the messenger when he brings unwelcome news.
Refuse to take anyone serious who refers to kompany as ‘Vince the prince’ Sacha wants to be known so bad and the one good thing to come out of kompany leaving will be he won’t waffle on about Burnley anymore
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by forzagranata » Wed May 22, 2024 10:15 pm
agreenwood wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:12 pm
Are you suggesting that going to Bayern this summer was part of Kompany’s plan all along?
No, of course not, but leaving Burnley was.
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by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 10:18 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:15 pm
No, of course not, but leaving Burnley was.
I don’t think Kompany taking a once in a lifetime promotion is clear evidence that he was actively trying to leave the club. I think it’s evidence that a stunning opportunity arose and he couldn’t possibly turn it down.
If the Forest job had come up and he’d gone there, I’d be more inclined to believe it.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 10:19 pm
forzagranata wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:15 pm
No, of course not, but leaving Burnley was.
You have absolutely no idea that kompanys plan was to leave Burnley, just because a nobody Belgium journo said so for abit of clout. The Bayern job is a complete shock to everyone which nobody would turn down, had we of finished 7th and got into Europe and Bayern came in, he would still leave.
Honestly you do a great job at acting like you are a Burnley fan