Next manager

[colne-claret]

I’d like to see somebody a bit more in the middle of Kompany and Dyche. I have no idea who that is as I don’t watch enough of other teams. Just want to see us a bit more solid at the back.

[SouthLondonexile]

I don’t like to see quick turnover of managers.
I don’t like to see rash appointments or dismissals.
My judgement is that we need to appoint Mike Jackson and perhaps entice Ben Mee back into the dugout alongside him.
Always assuming Craig Bellamy follows VK out of Burnley.

[Murger]

I don’t like to see quick turnover of managers.
I don’t like to see rash appointments or dismissals.
My judgement is that we need to appoint Mike Jackson and perhaps entice Ben Mee back into the dugout alongside him.
Always assuming Craig Bellamy follows VK out of Burnley.

MJ is going too.

[quoonbeatz]

It's about time we had a midfielder managing us, we've had plenty of defenders and forwards.

[claretspice]

The positive spin on this is that there are now clubs with highly regarded managers looking over their shoulders towards us.

We have some very good players for Championship level (Muric, O’Shea, Esteve, Cullen, Berge, Brownhill & Odobert to name a handful), a board who back their managers financially and don’t seem to interfere much with the playing side. That’s going to be an attractive proposition for a lot of ambitious coaches out there.

I agree with this, although my hope is that a second change in manager that prompts a total refit at the club will prompt Pace to look again at some form of Director of Football/Sporting Director/Technical Director to provide some parameters within which the managed would be expected to work. But most managers are used to this and it needn't be a point of friction.

Personally, I think that given the relative absence of a core of senior players versed in the Championship, Championship experience will be a helpful attribute in any candidate, and you'd ideally also want someone to have a track record in working with and moulding a young squad and who has a background in playing a short passing and/or high pressing style.

That makes Steve Cooper a very attractive candidate and I think he'd be on my hit list. Interestingly I think his coaching mentor lives in Burnley: Flynn was his manager at Wrexham 25 years ago and got him into coaching when it was obvious he'd not make it as a player.

Other attractive candidates- if we can attract them - would be Carrick and Corberan. Robins is certainly another but my understanding is that he's flourished as part of a particular ecosystem at Coventry with Dean Austin as Head of Recruitment, so it may be we'd need to look at replicating that set up. Rohl is an interesting name but his CV is limited. Moyes is an outstanding manager but even he were willing to drop down to the Championship im not sure his pragmatic, counter punching style would suit the players he'd inherit and we haven't the scope to completely refit the squad.

As for overseas candidates I'm sure there are some interesting ones but I don't think I'd go for someone like Fabregas or that ilk. The transition would just be too great and we haven't got half a season for someone to adjust to the Championship whilst the squad do likewise. The new man has to set the agenda from minute one.

[Row Z]

I don’t like to see quick turnover of managers.
I don’t like to see rash appointments or dismissals.
My judgement is that we need to appoint Mike Jackson and perhaps entice Ben Mee back into the dugout alongside him.
Always assuming Craig Bellamy follows VK out of Burnley.

Couldn’t think of a more underwhelming appointment than MJ.. has done nothing to suggest he’s remotely capable.

[Jakubclaret]

Moyes? May as well just get Dyche back when he leaves Everton.

Tall about going backwards.

It's not going backwards it's about adding stability & that's what the club desperately needs a wise old head a steady hand on the tiller.

[williamjblazkowicz]

I don't understand this fear people have over changing manager and paranoia of instability. Hiring someone like Mike Jackson makes no sense unless our aim is just to not be relegated from the Championship. We need an actual manager, someone with a proven record of results because the aim is to be bouncing back at the first attempt.

[pushpinpussy]

John Mousinho is young, plays good football and is a good prospect.

[bumba]

Selling the role to the next manager won't be easy, he's going to have to shift about 20 players just to make room for players he wants to bring in.
No doubt about it VK has left us in a right mess and I hope he does the same to Bayern

[burnleymik]

I honestly think a new manager is exactly what we need right now. All the eagerness to play for and impress VK wouldn't have been there this season like it was in his first season. There would have been numerous players disgruntled by his strange man management and you don't know how deep that runs through the squad etc.

I think we will still be a attractive proposition for an ambitious manager just because of the talent we do have, the potential and as others have said, clearly given backing by the board.

Exciting times....

[123EasyasBFC]

Selling the role to the next manager won't be easy, he's going to have to shift about 20 players just to make room for players he wants to bring in.
No doubt about it VK has left us in a right mess and I hope he does the same to Bayern

I would say we are an easier sell then we were 2 seasons ago

[agreenwood]

I agree with this, although my hope is that a second change in manager that prompts a total refit at the club will prompt Pace to look again at some form of Director of Football/Sporting Director/Technical Director to provide some parameters within which the managed would be expected to work. But most managers are used to this and it needn't be a point of friction.

Personally, I think that given the relative absence of a core of senior players versed in the Championship, Championship experience will be a helpful attribute in any candidate, and you'd ideally also want someone to have a track record in working with and moulding a young squad and who has a background in playing a short passing and/or high pressing style.

That makes Steve Cooper a very attractive candidate and I think he'd be on my hit list. Interestingly I think his coaching mentor lives in Burnley: Flynn was his manager at Wrexham 25 years ago and got him into coaching when it was obvious he'd not make it as a player.

Other attractive candidates- if we can attract them - would be Carrick and Corberan. Robins is certainly another but my understanding is that he's flourished as part of a particular ecosystem at Coventry with Dean Austin as Head of Recruitment, so it may be we'd need to look at replicating that set up. Rohl is an interesting name but his CV is limited. Moyes is an outstanding manager but even he were willing to drop down to the Championship im not sure his pragmatic, counter punching style would suit the players he'd inherit and we haven't the scope to completely refit the squad.

As for overseas candidates I'm sure there are some interesting ones but I don't think I'd go for someone like Fabregas or that ilk. The transition would just be too great and we haven't got half a season for someone to adjust to the Championship whilst the squad do likewise. The new man has to set the agenda from minute one.

Yep. Cooper is my gut favoured replacement right now.

[Murger]

Hopefully a new manager comes in and realises we need some experienced pros alongside the young ‘uns. That’s where I think Kompany would have faulted.

[RVclaret]

I think Cooper is being a bit mis profiled. By all accounts he’s an incredibly pragmatic coach. Certainly not a high press, free flowing football coach. Swansea fans I know said he was overly pragmatic and the year he was with them was a tough watch most of the time. Forest in the Prem got outplayed game after game and stayed up with some good vibes & a 300m assembled squad. Wouldn’t be totally against him but this profiling as someone who plays youth and a similar brand of football to VK seems off.

[beddie]

I’d like to think we could use Moyes in some capacity. I think he’d be good as Manager to steady the ship but I’d imagine Pace will be looking for a younger, ambitious Manager. Could Moyes become employed in a new role as our upstairs mentor.

[claretspice]

I think Cooper is being a bit mis profiled. By all accounts he’s an incredibly pragmatic coach. Certainly not a high press, free flowing football coach. Swansea fans I know said he was overly pragmatic and the year he was with them was a tough watch most of the time. Forest in the Prem got outplayed game after game and stayed up with some good vibes & a 300m assembled squad. Wouldn’t be totally against him but this profiling as someone who plays youth and a similar brand of football to VK seems off.

Got Forest playing some very good stuff when he went in there - more attractive and shorter passing than they were used to. Swansea are a slightly unique case - as Duff found they have a very high expectation of style developed over quite a long period.

[Rick_Muller]

Now that it is increasingly likely that we'll need a new gaffer my thoughts are for Thierry Henry or Cesc Fabregas if Alan wants to continue the "dating the best looking woman" approach.

If Alan wants to secure the long term future of the club though, I'd look to bring in Moyes as Director of Football, and then go down the head coach route with considerations such as Danny Rohl or even Michael Duff on the list.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Micheal Carrick would be my No1 choice after that Steve Cooper or David Moyes

[CrosspoolClarets]

Cooper is my preferred choice, I didn’t know the link to Flynny, and with his teams liking to play 3 at the back that gives good options for our centre backs, of which we are well stocked. Beyer and Esteve with O’Shea in between and / or Al Dakhil would be formidable at this level with enough pace.

Not sure what players like Sambo are thinking at this precise moment but if we sign him he would seem a good choice for a Cooper style wing back too.

Whatever we do, having 2 years parachutes not 3 means promotion next season is a must, or we stare into the abyss.

[Guller Bull]

Bellers?

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Robins would be my preferred choice.

[123EasyasBFC]

Has Bellamy actually gone or what

[claptrappers_union]

How about the growth that his team showed between that game and the away game?

I'd rather sign Sammie Szmodics

[pureclaret]

Bellamy and Jackson ?

[AGENT_CLARET]

Bellamy and Jackson ?

I'd rather have Ant and Dec

[wilks_bfc]

Has Bellamy actually gone or what

Apparently he’s has gone, but won’t be going to Bayern with VK

[IanMcL]

If Pace thinks Bellamy is the answer, I am not sure what the question could be!

[Gibbo]

Graham Potter looking for a job.

[claretabroad]

My first choice before we appointed Kompany was Knutsen. It still is. He really has created a strong bond between the club and the local community as well has playing exciting and successful football.

[Jellybean]

MJ is going too.

Assuming he's going with Kompany what a great move for him, and I actually think it's great that Vinny thinks highly enough of him to take him along given he was left over from the previous regime.

[Middle-agedClaret]

I’d like David Moyes, but I don’t for one minute think that would happen.
Steve Cooper would be good, and I can understand why others rate Mark Robins.
It may sound boring, but I hope we appoint someone who can be pragmatic, and concentrate on getting the team to do the basics well. There have been times this season where they played like strangers, with a lack of cohesion and unity.

[JohnMcGreal]

Cooper also has experience in working with messy, bloated squads with a high turnover of players.

Didn't he get a team packed with loan signings promoted before signing a tonne of players (which led to them falling foul of FFP rules)?

Either way I think that experience is useful for the position we're in. It's going to take some sorting out.

[burnleymik]

Cooper and Moyes, although great managers in their own respective ways, feels like the wrong direction.

[jedi_master]

If Moyes is a no-go (possible), Cooper is definitely a decent option.

Did well with England's youth teams (won the U-17 World Cup) and had a really high win ratio. Swansea he had a win ratio of 44.76% which is not shabby at all, nor is 38.89% at Forest considering half of that was in the Premier League.

Yes - spent an absolute ton, but it was there to be spent, is that his fault? Maybe its a good thing that its a manager who has experience of handling a huge, international/multi-cultural squad?

Starting to lean to him being my 2nd choice after Moyes.

[channelislandclaret]

Mark Van Bommel of Antwerp would be a good option, won the Belgian league in his first season, also managed PSV & Wolfsburg so knows the European market well

[ArmchairDetective]

Potter or Fabregas would be my choice based on the suggestions on this thread. Doubt we'll be able to tempt either of them though.

Fearing an underwhelming appointment to be honest. We put all our eggs in one basket with VK and have been planning a summer of recruitment under VK's control. May need someone who's happy to come in and work with what we've got whilst we regroup.

From the outside it seems a very tricky appointment to make and get right.

[ArmchairDetective]

Mark Van Bommel of Antwerp would be a good option, won the Belgian league in his first season, also managed PSV & Wolfsburg so knows the European market well

Would be happy with that.

[RVclaret]

My first choice before we appointed Kompany was Knutsen. It still is. He really has created a strong bond between the club and the local community as well has playing exciting and successful football.

Would he come? Noises from Bodo fans are that he’s fully committed to them & just signed a new deal (sounds a bit familiar like).

[kentonclaret]

Bellamy and Jackson ?

Being reported that MJ is going and Bellamy staying with the latter hoping to be in consideration for the manager position.

[Smidge]

Not sure about Bellamy although he has always spoken well in the interviews
Would offer continuaty but a big ask to replace backroom staff
Jackson can go for me and take the goalkeeper coach with him

[claptrappers_union]

We want to hire someone who doesn't think they are bigger than the club.

I want someone who understands the type of club it is, appreciates the privilege of taking the reigns and isn't using the club as a stepping stone for their CV.

Cooper is the man for me. He ticks all the boxes and is the sensible option. He will have ambitions to get back into the Premier League, too.

However, from an ALK point of view, they can attract more investment with a famous name. So it wouldn't surprise me if they went with Fabregas, Ashley Cole or even Rooney. Maybe Moyes has enough clout. Or maybe an American coach or a former MLS player.

I do wonder if they will give the new manager as much control this time round. The whole MUD thing didn't sit will with me and now we're stuck with a bunch of expensive subpar players.

[JohnMcGreal]

I do wonder if they will give the new manager as much control this time round. The whole MUD thing didn't sit will with me and now we're stuck with a bunch of expensive subpar players.

DUD analytics, more like.

[Sproggy]

Selling the role to the next manager won't be easy, he's going to have to shift about 20 players just to make room for players he wants to bring in.
No doubt about it VK has left us in a right mess and I hope he does the same to Bayern

It will be the opposite. There will be a queue of managers ready to snap Mr. Pace's hand off. Favourites to go up, talented squad, parachute payments, chairman that is prepared to invest, Premier League ambitions. Full summer to work with the squad.

[GetIntoEm]

If it was going to be Bellamy I think they would have kept him around. He's gone tho

[CnBtruntru]

I thought Bellamy left Sunday, CT said he was one of the four who left

[helmclaret]

Brent Peters has been spotted at Crow Wood with his advisors.

[beddie]

Micheal Carrick’s been mentioned, comes across well but what’s he actually achieved?

[Roosterbooster]

It wouldn't surprise me if they went with Fabregas, Ashley Cole or even Rooney

Ashley Cole is a wolly and would be a disaster. Just listen to his analysis. He's clueless

Rooney's record as a manager is embarrassing. His record as a human being is even worse

Kompany came after a very respectable managerial stint at Anderlecht. To think Pace brought him to Burnley purely because he was a big name doesn't seem to fit

[AGENT_CLARET]

Graham Potter looking for a job.

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[beddie]

The thought of Robbins really doesn’t excite me but funnily enough I thought that when I heard a certain Mr Dyche was to be employed, so who knows.