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burnley007
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by burnley007 » Wed May 22, 2024 9:06 pm
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:02 pm
He has a team in this USA tournament doesn’t he?
Not sure.
But he is the right profile for 'the project'
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JR1882
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by JR1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 9:12 pm
His Como team just been promoted and I’m sure he has an ownership stake there too.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed May 22, 2024 9:25 pm
Fabregas was acting as number 2 due to not having the coaching badges required, which he’s finishing this summer. Como were promoted and he’s set to take over as boss this season.
Could he be tempted away? Not sure.
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by leelad » Wed May 22, 2024 9:27 pm
Agree with jedi_master from the beginning of this thread. Either Moyes or Carrick.
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by burnley007 » Wed May 22, 2024 9:27 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:25 pm
Fabregas was acting as number 2 due to not having the coaching badges required, which he’s finishing this summer. Como were promoted and he’s set to take over as boss this season.
Could he be tempted away? Not sure.
He would be an obvious replacement for VK. Next up and coming manager. Then we can get £30m for him when Barcelona come for him after we get relegated in 2 years...
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by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 9:31 pm
doesnt he own Como though?
lake como, or the leeds liverpool canal. tough choice
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by burnley007 » Wed May 22, 2024 9:34 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:31 pm
doesnt he own Como though?
lake como, or the leeds liverpool canal. tough choice
part owner. Bound to be able to leave though,
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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed May 22, 2024 9:38 pm
Leave to manage Burnley and make some sort of agreement with Pace and co to appease their multi club ownership nonsense
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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed May 22, 2024 9:44 pm
I hope Pace and co have had a contingency in mind ready for this scenario.
Would love for my concerns on this to be or to rest as I’m not sure they have .
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by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 9:50 pm
The positive spin on this is that there are now clubs with highly regarded managers looking over their shoulders towards us.
We have some very good players for Championship level (Muric, O’Shea, Esteve, Cullen, Berge, Brownhill & Odobert to name a handful), a board who back their managers financially and don’t seem to interfere much with the playing side. That’s going to be an attractive proposition for a lot of ambitious coaches out there.
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by quoonbeatz » Wed May 22, 2024 9:58 pm
Big job for whoever comes in but it's one of the more attractive jobs going in football at the moment. Obviously crucial the club get this appointment right but it's a new dawn after a nightmare season. Looking forward to seeing where we go next.
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by Down_Rover » Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm
Of those mentioned Klopp would be my pick but he probably doesn’t fancy the fight
Then
Rosenior
Duff of course
Barnes
Fear it might be Bellamys turn
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by Darthlaw » Wed May 22, 2024 10:09 pm
Has Graham Potter been mentioned? Would he drop to the Championship?
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by BurnleyFC » Wed May 22, 2024 10:11 pm
Darthlaw wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:09 pm
Has Graham Potter been mentioned? Would he drop to the Championship?
I don’t think he would, but he’d be a terrific appointment.
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 10:35 pm
Random palace fan on twitter saying we want Nathan jones hahahaha I really really hope not
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by TPClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:36 pm
123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:35 pm
Random palace fan on twitter saying we want Nathan jones hahahaha I really really hope not
I’d walk away from the club if this clown was ever appointed. And people accusing VK of having an ego. This guy is another level
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by Milltown1882 » Wed May 22, 2024 10:37 pm
Rob Edwards if we can get him from Luton. If not Carrick, Knutsen or Rohl.
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by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed May 22, 2024 10:38 pm
My shortlist would be
Knutsen
Moyes
Maybe Moyes is too big for us but we are a loyal club and he’s just been burnt by west ham . Could be a good match.
I am more excited by Knutsen though because of his play style being closer to what Kompany was trying to do but not quite getting there.
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by Casper2 » Wed May 22, 2024 10:43 pm
Down_Rover wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm
Of those mentioned Klopp would be my pick but he probably doesn’t fancy the fight
Then
Rosenior
Duff of course
Barnes
Fear it might be Bellamys turn

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by TsarBomba » Wed May 22, 2024 10:51 pm
Mike McGrath now saying Bellamy unlikely to be joining VK at Bayern and may be in the running with us.
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by Murger » Wed May 22, 2024 10:51 pm
Down_Rover wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 pm
Of those mentioned Klopp would be my pick but he probably doesn’t fancy the fight
Then
Rosenior
Duff of course
Barnes
Fear it might be Bellamys turn
Why the clamour for Rosenior?
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by Oldparkwood » Wed May 22, 2024 10:52 pm
TsarBomba wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:51 pm
Mike McGrath now saying Bellamy unlikely to be joining VK at Bayern and may be in the running with us.
I friggin hope not. The bloke is a complete

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by Hedontplayforyou » Wed May 22, 2024 10:55 pm
If Bellamy had already gone after Sundays match, then why would he be considered to take the top job?
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by ksrclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:57 pm
Sounds like Bellamy had already cleared his desk so it won't be him.
In any case, Bellamy has previously said to the media that he is unsuited to the job of a manager.
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by CoolClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:58 pm
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:55 pm
If Bellamy had already gone after Sundays match, then why would he be considered to take the top job?
Maybe he disagreed with a lot of what VK was doing this year and had enough of working for him?...
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by It Is What It Is » Wed May 22, 2024 10:59 pm
Moyes belongs EPL ...nothing less
Cooper is my choice and Robins is second
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by helmclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:00 pm
Maybe they weren’t getting on. I remember Bellamy saying in an interview last year he had to tell VK he wasn’t doing 14 hour days at the training ground anymore.
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by Gazclaret83 » Wed May 22, 2024 11:01 pm
Steve Cooper
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 11:03 pm
I didn’t think cooper would get another prem job but forgot Ipswich could lose McKenna, cooper might wait to see if that job comes to him
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by jedi_master » Wed May 22, 2024 11:04 pm
No for me r.e Bellamy.
Nothing against him in the slightest, I just think a new broom is needed after this.
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by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 11:08 pm
Maybe Pace could use his B for Bellamy. Smart bloke is Alan. Playing the long game
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by DCWat » Wed May 22, 2024 11:11 pm
Whoever it is, they’ve got to wear a cap. £’s to be made from cap sales and Alan loves a cap.
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by Gazclaret83 » Wed May 22, 2024 11:13 pm
Parachute payments an a good clear out could make it an attractive job haha
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by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 11:16 pm
You have to be careful with someone like rohl form Wednesday, he had nothing to lose going there with the position they were in. Coming to a club just relegated from the prem is a whole different kind of pressure
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by Neil » Wed May 22, 2024 11:19 pm
I expect they will go for a safe appointment this time.
Can't afford to get this one wrong and they certainly can't afford to get it spectacularly wrong so I reckon they'll go for an experienced older manager.
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by bigdavethemaddog » Wed May 22, 2024 11:26 pm
i know he managed at Deadwood but what about Jon Dahl Tomasson?
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by CoolClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:27 pm
bigdavethemaddog wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:26 pm
i know he managed at Deadwood but what about Jon Dahl Tomasson?
Manager of Sweden now but may be interested.
He'd be on my shortlist that's for sure.
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by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:47 pm
as we are just chucking around random names, how did the guy at QPR do ? Seemed they were heading for the drop at one point (I don't think I saw a single QPR game last season)
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by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:48 pm
Gazclaret83 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:13 pm
Parachute payments an a good clear out could make it an attractive job haha
the fact that Pace stood by his manager despite our awful form will be MASSIVELY attractive to any prospective manager. We don't wan't be like Watford or Chelsea just potting managers for fun
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by Swizzlestick » Wed May 22, 2024 11:50 pm
Neil wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:19 pm
I expect they will go for a safe appointment this time.
Can't afford to get this one wrong and they certainly can't afford to get it spectacularly wrong so I reckon they'll go for an experienced older manager.
They couldn’t really afford to get it wrong after sacking Dyche and still went for a left field choice rather than a safe pick like Wilder. And it looks like they’re going to get circa £20m for this pick.
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by claptrappers_union » Wed May 22, 2024 11:51 pm
bigdavethemaddog wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:26 pm
i know he managed at Deadwood but what about Jon Dahl Tomasson?
The way he set up that Rovers team at Turf Moor I wouldn't want him anywhere near us.
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by CoolClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:53 pm
claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:51 pm
The way he set up that Rovers team at Turf Moor I wouldn't want him anywhere near us.
How about the growth that his team showed between that game and the away game?
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by Neil » Wed May 22, 2024 11:56 pm
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 11:50 pm
They couldn’t really afford to get it wrong after sacking Dyche and still went for a left field choice rather than a safe pick like Wilder. And it looks like they’re going to get circa £20m for this pick.
But we've spent a lot of money since then and £20m goes into the bank, not the new manager fund.
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by Clive 1960 » Thu May 23, 2024 2:38 am
I would like Moyes if he would come but i have a funny feeling we could get Robins but whoever it is as got to sort the mess out or we could find ourselves in a pickle on and off the field..
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by Grimsdale » Thu May 23, 2024 3:33 am
One vital thing that everyone seems to have missed for this next manager discussion is how will their name fit into the "xxx's Claret and Blue Army!" chant?
They key thing here of course is the number of syllables in the managers name, four being the ideal (think of "Jimmy Mullen's Claret and Blue Army" as the gold standard), three or five syllables could work depending on the name but anything else is going to be a struggle.
So let's have a look at the some of the current crop of suggestions:
David Moyes - Certainly workable despite being a syllable short and has the advantage of having his surname end in an s, so "David Moyses's Claret and Blue Army" fits the bill nicely. Only downside is there may be some opposition from grammar nazis who insist it should be David Moyes' without the addition s.
Chantometer score: 8
Steve Cooper - An example of where a three syllable name doesn't really work. Could use "Stevie Cooper" as a possible workaround but it's a no from me.
Chantometer score: 5
Mark Robins - Worse than Steve Cooper. "Marky Robins" isn't going to fly and "Mark Robins's Claret and Blue Army" is about as unwieldy as trying to cycle whilst carrying a broom.
Chantometer score: 3
Michael Carrick - Now we're talking. "Michael Carrick's Claret and Blue Army!". Perfect fit.
Chantometer score: 10
Danny Rohl - Another three syllable candidate but this one works better than the previous two. Main issue is there are probably better songs to go with that name, my personal favourite being to the tune of Gary Glitter's Rock and Roll: "Danny Roh-ohl, Hey! Danny Rohl"
Chantometer score: 7
Liam Rosenior - Five syllables but works quite well, especially given the speed at which the CFS sing.
Chantometer score: 8
Will Still: Dreadful.
Chantometer score: 1
Kjetil Knutsen - I'm assuming this is pronounced "Kyetil Nutsen", in which case it fits very nicely. Loses a point because once we hear the correct pronunciation we'll likely end up with multiple versions.
Chantometer score: 9
Final Score: Michael Carrick wins! Alan Pace, you know what to do ...
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by ClaretinJapan » Thu May 23, 2024 3:34 am
Colin could do a job. Taken by Torquay though.
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by Lord_Bob » Thu May 23, 2024 4:02 am
Let's push the boat out Alan, Poch is available
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by Rick_Muller » Thu May 23, 2024 6:25 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:56 pm
Ask their fans if his football was ‘decent’. I think you’ll find that was the main reason they wanted him out. Complete opposite style to what’s been built here over the past few seasons.
Yes but the West Ham Way is a very high bar… they won the World Cup don’t forget
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by Pearcey » Thu May 23, 2024 7:43 am
Are people really considering Bellamy? Do people really change that much? I’d like to see a proper manager come in. Steve Cooper would be my choice. It’s gonna be an interesting few months.