Kompany to Bayern Munich?

[Murger]

Who was the inept set piece we'd employed?

The one who stood on the edge of the technical area every time we were involved in a free kick or corner?

Elliot Tybebo is the set piece coach, I think.

[claretonthecoast1882]

He didn't step down he was working alongside another guy whilst he concentrated more on the playing side, he was still part of the management setup.
3rd is still a failure for Anderlecht!
Whichever way you look at it the point is VK didn't pull up any trees in his first few seasons so to write Rosenior off from one full season would be silly, not saying he'd be my pick but he shouldn't be written off.
Kieran McKenna probably wasn't the manager Ipswich wanted at the time.
VK after his first full season wouldn't have been a manager we'd have chosen.
Who is to say Rosenior isn't a very talented coach?

In the season after Kompany left Anderlecht came 11th, they aren't the big side in Belgium the once were. Isn't it something like 1 league title in the last 10 years

[Clovius Boofus]

I'd say it's almost certain that VK knew he was being considered for the position before the season finished.

Almost certain? Well, to be almost certain, is usually backed up with at least some evidence, and you have none whatsoever. What you are doing is speculating.

[bumba]

In the season after Kompany left Anderlecht came 11th, they aren't the big side in Belgium the once were. Isn't it something like 1 league title in the last 10 years

They've finished 2nd this season too but in fairness what they've done since he left is irrelevant to the conversation about not writing Rosenior off

[Rileybobs]

Almost certain? Well, to be almost certain, is usually backed up with at least some evidence, and you have none whatsoever. What you are doing is speculating.

Obviously I don't have evidence, I'm just applying common sense that a huge organisation such as Bayern Munich will have a shortlist of candidates for such a key role within their organisation, and they will likely make informal approaches to those candidates in advance of opening up formal discussions. Do you not think this is likely? Burnley will be doing exactly the same now hence the Robins and Rosenior rumours.

[CnBtruntru]

Loaded? I thought he was bankrupt?

Aye like every poor farmer!

[Holtyclaret]

There are Burnley fans who wanted a Championship winning, 101 point manager, out after 5 games of this season.

Yes I had noticed

With Hull it was most of them, weren’t impressed at all. I think he still needs to prove himself before he gets to our level personally.

[Clovius Boofus]

Obviously I don't have evidence, I'm just applying common sense that a huge organisation such as Bayern Munich will have a shortlist of candidates for such a key role within their organisation, and they will likely make informal approaches to those candidates in advance of opening up formal discussions. Do you not think this is likely? Burnley will be doing exactly the same now hence the Robins and Rosenior rumours.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to refuse to move from Burnley to Bayern Munich. I'd speculate that the loyal Dyche would have snapped both their hands off, even if we had been in the EPL at the time of their approach. It's just too big an opportunity to turn down for someone at a club like ours.

[mybloodisclaret]

I've heard Kompany has signed a three year deal to join Munich and he's taking Floribert Ngalula to be his assistant not Bellamy, just the compensation to be agreed now.

How has he signed a 3 year deal when the compensation hasn't been agreed?

No doubt he will sign the deal, but how can he have signed already?

[Swizzlestick]

Which six have turned them down?

Nagelsmann, Flick, Tuchel, Alonso, Rangnick, Schmidt, Glasner, De Zerbi…

[RVclaret]

How has he signed a 3 year deal when the compensation hasn't been agreed?

No doubt he will sign the deal, but how can he have signed already?

You can agree it in principal via agents these days right?

[ClaretTony]

Who was the inept set piece we'd employed?

The one who stood on the edge of the technical area every time we were involved in a free kick or corner?

Eliot Tybebo

[kentonclaret]

Very interesting.

For the past 24 hours only one betting site (Sky Bet) have been offering odds on Kompany to Bayern. That price of 1/20 has recently changed to 1/10 and is drifting.

Hmmmm

[Taffy on the wing]

OGS is a great shout

Why?........he's useless.

[AGENT_CLARET]

How has he signed a 3 year deal when the compensation hasn't been agreed?

No doubt he will sign the deal, but how can he have signed already?

agreed in principal

[Holtyclaret]

As I understand it;

Vk signed a new 5 year deal last summer so 4 years left.

Knowing he had an attractive/famous manager he put into the contract that should vk want to leave early, his new club must buy out his remaining contract.

In this case we’re looking for 4 x €5m (VK’s annual salary) = €20m

VK’s initial championship salary was £2.5m.

It’s written in black and white what they have to pay and they’re now bargaining to get him cheaper now they’ve upset the apple cart.

I sense this contact from Bayern has been a surprise to all and all happened very quickly, I do struggle to work out they could advance so far with vk without agreeing or discussing the compo with us first. They do apparently have form for this stuff.

Good on Pace for protecting the club with the clause designed specifically for this situation.

I was very much vk in but now the opposite. Don’t blame him for not being able to turn down the opportunity but for me it’s time for a new manager with their own management team to re-mould the squad to their liking followed by a good competitive campaign that sees us back up. I’m relieved to close this roller coaster chapter, steady the ship and go again.

It’s not the big mess some see it as, the speedy appointment of the right next manager is vital though.

[Rileybobs]

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to refuse to move from Burnley to Bayern Munich. I'd speculate that the loyal Dyche would have snapped both their hands off, even if we had been in the EPL at the time of their approach. It's just too big an opportunity to turn down for someone at a club like ours.

100%.

[clarethomer]

I don't see a way back but I am just wondering what happens if they walk away.

Blows my mind that they wouldn't go to the club first to say we are interested in VK - what needs to happen.

The way this has unfolded is crazy.

[Holtyclaret]

[Darnhill Claret]

I'm a little bit sceptical as to whether or not Bayern and Burnley are actually in any sort of contact yet. I don't believe everything I read or hear until there is some official confirmation, or a believable leak.
Surely Alan and VK need to sit down together at some point, pretty soon, and discuss everything that is playing out on social media, and then being rehashed on TV and in the national press. This is like a snowball, leading to an avalanche.
I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves here.
They've taken the initial news and ridden it out to a conclusion before there is a final conclusion.
Everyone wants to be first with the news.

[Wokingclaret]

As I understand it;

Vk signed a new 5 year deal last summer so 4 years left.

Knowing he had an attractive/famous manager he put into the contract that should vk want to leave early, his new club must buy out his remaining contract.

In this case we’re looking for 4 x €5m (VK’s annual salary) = €20m

VK’s initial championship salary was £2.5m.

It’s written in black and white what they have to pay and they’re now bargaining to get him cheaper now they’ve upset the apple cart.

I sense this contact from Bayern has been a surprise to all and all happened very quickly, I do struggle to work out they could advance so far with vk without agreeing or discussing the compo with us first. They do apparently have form for this stuff.

Good on Pace for protecting the club with the clause designed specifically for this situation.

I was very much vk in but now the opposite. Don’t blame him for not being able to turn down the opportunity but for me it’s time for a new manager with their own management team to re-mould the squad to their liking followed by a good competitive campaign that sees us back up. I’m relieved to close this roller coaster chapter, steady the ship and go again.

It’s not the big mess some see it as, the speedy appointment of the right next manager is vital though.

He was going to go somewhere else this summer if it wasn't Bayern.

He has left a mess, no two ways about it. Though I accept the next appointment is crucial

[NewClaret]

Keep saying this but I’m pretty sure any ‘delays’ are because it’s taking some time to finalise all the contracts, not the compensation.

That would surely be a simple contractual point that is non-negotiable, whatever the journalists say or pretend to know.

Remember how long it took us to announce Kompany? Or how long does it take you to get an offer of employment after an interview? 4 days is nothing. Could rumble on a week or more.

It’ll all be ticking along in the background.

[claptrappers_union]

I fancy Bellamy looking to step into management himself. I think the Hib job in Scotland will be suited for him

[NewClaret]

He was going to go somewhere else this summer if it wasn't Bayern.

He has left a mess, no two ways about it. Though I accept the next appointment is crucial

The way I see it, he’s left an incredibly strong Championship squad. You could make 2-3 competitive teams out of it.

There will be some outgoings as is natural for any demoted side but that help provide some funds for any new manager.

What you would consider a bloated squad I really think the club will see as loans to whatever foreign clubs they’re looking to buy/invest in. I don’t think the club are anywhere near as worried about that as someone seem to be else they’d have started selling some in summer/January.

[kentonclaret]

I'm a little bit sceptical as to whether or not Bayern and Burnley are actually in any sort of contact yet. I don't believe everything I read or hear until there is some official confirmation, or a believable leak.
Surely Alan and VK need to sit down together at some point, pretty soon, and discuss everything that is playing out on social media, and then being rehashed on TV and in the national press. This is like a snowball, leading to an avalanche.
I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves here.
They've taken the initial news and ridden it out to a conclusion before there is a final conclusion.
Everyone wants to be first with the news.

Bookmakers don’t quote odds of 1/20 about a manager being appointed if the 2 clubs involved have not even held direct talks, and then close the book simply going off what is in the press and being posted on social media.

[Darnhill Claret]

You'll be surprised. Bookies don't have ethics and will make a 'book' if there is sufficient demand.

[Darnhill Claret]

Burnley FC have not issued any statement to the media concerning the managerial situation and I'm unaware of Bayern issuing anything similar. It is still 'we understand, from sources'.

[Vegas Claret]

Almost certain? Well, to be almost certain, is usually backed up with at least some evidence, and you have none whatsoever. What you are doing is speculating.

They offered the job to Ragnik then so no idea how VK new they were after him

[Darnhill Claret]

Remember Bellamy having a pint with someone, and saying he was coming to the club, weeks before anything was official. There was a bit of 33/1 and 66/1 around for a couple of days after that. Quite a few key backroom staff left or declared they were leaving over the last few days and weeks, which saves a few quid for us, in a kind of tidying up way, before several might reunite at VK's next gig.
I think Bellamy is probably more suited to being an assistant than being the main man. I think he did well at the club in the role he was in.

[Paddy1882]

Compensation nearly there According to Romano. Get it done and let’s move on. I’d have been happy to see him leave at Xmas so the fact we get money for him is a bonus.

[randomclaret2]

Compensation nearly there According to Romano. Get it done and let’s move on. I’d have been happy to see him leave at Xmas so the fact we get money for him is a bonus.

" Vincent Kompany and Bayern, almost there as talks with Burnley over compensation fee are advancing to final stages.

Staff ready, contract ready."
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[IanMcL]

No recent news to show. Come on Mr P, get it sorted

[Taffy on the wing]

No recent news to show. Come on Mr P, get it sorted

Yep.......get him the fcuk out of here!

[Darnhill Claret]

Maybe he'll get it sorted as soon as Bayern get in touch.

[Aclaret]

I feel like I've been on this board for 46 of the past 48 hrs....Think I need to get a life !....Hang on in there Mr Pace, get every penny you can.

[PremierLeagueClass]

You'll be surprised. Bookies don't have ethics and will make a 'book' if there is sufficient demand.

Imagine, a business providing a product there is a demand for! The world has gone mad!

[dandeclaret]

You'll be surprised. Bookies don't have ethics and will make a 'book' if there is sufficient demand.

And that book has to balance both sides, so going 1/20 means you've got to go the opposite side on something the other way.... if they do that, and are wrong, then those with the info knock them over and change the price.

Anyway, i wouldn't trust a manger market, there's very little liquidity, and the only people betting into them are those with some suppposed info. A £100 would move the price on a person dramatically

[ClaretTony]

Strong suggestions that the deal is just about done

[burnleymik]

Strong suggestions that the deal is just about done

Good to hear. We need to move on now.

Wish him the best at Bayern.

Now let's start all the rumours and speculation about our next manager!

Which journo is going to be on it first, unless one already was of course....

[JR1882]

I feel like I've been on this board for 46 of the past 48 hrs....Think I need to get a life !....Hang on in there Mr Pace, get every penny you can.

Think Al’s done alright here tbf, I’d expect he is ranging inside but fair play for holding out for a big fee. I’d be throwing 100 big ones a week at Moyes now with a big promotion & survival bonus.

[mybloodisclaret]

Strong suggestions that the deal is just about done

Hoping its £17 mill and even though I was massively Vinny in until the weekend. I have come to realisation that a new start new direction is what we need.

[Jakubclaret]

Hoping its £17 mill and even though I was massively Vinny in until the weekend. I have come to realisation that a new start new direction is what we need.

That became obvious to some of us early doors especially last season gone with what's happened/happening bayern are doing us a massive favour & the mugs are even paying for that privilege. It's time for Vinny's learning to go elsewhere & when he falls flat on his arse it's somebody's else's turn to pick the poo up.

[ksrclaret]

That became obvious to some of us early doors especially last season gone with what's happened/happening bayern are doing us a massive favour & the mugs are even paying for that privilege. It's time for Vinny's learning to go elsewhere & when he falls flat on his arse it's somebody's else's turn to pick the poo up.

I can’t actually believe someone is paying us to take him. I thought after he’d signed that 5 year deal last summer that the only way out was a very expensive sacking.

[NewClaret]

Strong suggestions that the deal is just about done

Any idea on announcement timeframe Tony?

[IanMcL]

News #Kompany | Advanced negotiations between Bayern and Burnley now!

Agreement expected this weekend at the latest
Negotiations, tough but always fair and positive. Now in final stage.

Final transfer fee is expected to be in the range of €10-15m. Not a done deal yet. Kompany, ready to sign until 2027. @SkySportDE

[Jakubclaret]

I can’t actually believe someone is paying us to take him. I thought after he’d signed that 5 year deal last summer that the only way out was a very expensive sacking.

I agree 100% & you get some bo**ocks about pace being angry & upset. Pace did invest in him but that ships already sailed we have been relegated & saving money is the order of the day. It's already widely acknowledged the sort of money kompany was earning it just isn't sustainable in the championship in any shape or form. Pace will be disappointed about the relegation but this isn't a bad thing it's damage limitation.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

That became obvious to some of us early doors especially last season gone with what's happened/happening bayern are doing us a massive favour & the mugs are even paying for that privilege. It's time for Vinny's learning to go elsewhere & when he falls flat on his arse it's somebody's else's turn to pick the poo up.

Its an unbelievable deal for Pace to get this, wipes his slate clean after the Dyche contract debacle also, hopefully harsh lessons have been learnt here about daft long contracts .

I wonder how long he will last at Bayern, they are pretty unforgiving by all accounts, if they think their getting the next Xabi Alonso i think they will be dissapointed.

[IanMcL]

I wonder how long he will last at Bayern, they are pretty unforgiving by all accounts, if they think their getting the next Xabi Alonso i think they will be dissapointed.

They are getting the Vincent Solongshow

[ClaretAL]

That became obvious to some of us early doors especially last season gone with what's happened/happening bayern are doing us a massive favour & the mugs are even paying for that privilege. It's time for Vinny's learning to go elsewhere & when he falls flat on his arse it's somebody's else's turn to pick the poo up.

Wow

[NewClaret]

News #Kompany | Advanced negotiations between Bayern and Burnley now!

Agreement expected this weekend at the latest
Negotiations, tough but always fair and positive. Now in final stage.

Final transfer fee is expected to be in the range of €10-15m. Not a done deal yet. Kompany, ready to sign until 2027. @SkySportDE

If that’s true it’s quite a disappointing sum from what we were led to believe.