Next manager

[PremierLeagueClass]

David Moyes is not dropping into the championship to manage us.

As much chance as pol pot winning the nobel peace prize

When championship managers are landing/getting linked with some of the biggest jobs in football, you’d think it has to work the other way round as well. Maybe some of the bigger names will start to look further down, knowing that it’s not going to damage their career prospects in the way it might have done in the past.

The Burnley manager getting poached by Bayern Munich is a very good look for the club. We can now be seen as a viable stepping stone to a top job, rather than the 3rd or 4th rung on the ladder.

[kentonclaret]

Lampard is absolute dogshit. Good job it is only a rumour from Nixon.

I wouldn’t mind betting that over a season of 38 games or more at PL level that Frank Lampard won more points per game with both Chelsea and Everton than Kompany did with Burnley.

[taio]

I wouldn’t mind betting that over a season of 38 games or more at PL level that Frank Lampard won more points per game with both Chelsea and Everton than Kompany did with Burnley.

Yes, as one would expect. Comparing apples and oranges though.

[Woodleyclaret]

No way do we want a chancer like Lamphard
It's important our board aren't seduced by hype over actual success
Moyes offers a good cv if you ignore him bombing at Sunderland and Manure
However personally there are a range of better options although imo Cooper is not one of them

[PremierLeagueClass]

I wouldn’t mind betting that over a season of 38 games or more at PL level that Frank Lampard won more points per game with both Chelsea and Everton than Kompany did with Burnley.

Hardly a fair comparison is it given the resources he had at his disposal.

[daveisaclaret]

Lampard's second spell at Chelsea saw them get less points per game than us last season...

[xxmunkyennuixx]

I wouldn’t mind betting that over a season of 38 games or more at PL level that Frank Lampard won more points per game with both Chelsea and Everton than Kompany did with Burnley.

Vinny took over a depleted aging team, replenished the squad with youth whilst completely changing the style of play allowing us to amass a massive points total and lifting the title on our rival's pitch? Lampard has had his chance to do that. He was at Derby. He didn't manage it. It fizzled out in a play off failure. His other jobs have been failures.

Lampard should be nowhere near the running for a Championship job. He's absolute dogshit.

[warksclaret]

Its not often the huge majority on here agree on something- Lampard just not suitable to what we need in the next manager. is pretty unanimous. Also reassuring to see the votes for Cooper/Moyes/Carrick

[Firthy]

I'd be hugely disappointed if it were Lampard - but I suppose a former England international with 100+ caps would suit our chairman

And that's the problem. He would get the job on what he did as a player, not what he did as a manager.

Just have to hope that Pace and Co have more sense than that.

[forzagranata]

I’m not for one moment suggesting that I want Lampard, but just to offer a bit of perspective on this. He has managed derby, Chelsea and Everton. 3 basket cases for clubs. He got Derby to the play off final, Chelsea to the champions league under a transfer embargo and not even Carlo Ancelotti could do anything with Everton. So maybe it’s a case of finding the right club where he can establish his ideas over a few years.

This is true

Wouldn't be my choice out of the many varied and positive options potentially available.

However, for the interest of balance, his 'failure' with Derby was reaching the Championship playoff final. Which is what Steve Cooper did at Forest. Cooper's side beat Huddersfield and Lampard's Derby lost to Villa. One game at Wembley makes one a progressive man of the moment and the other a loser?

Lampard has experience of finishing fourth in the PL and getting into the CL. He also has come through a relegation battle with a basket case club.

His track record is far superior to what Vincent Kompany's was before he came to Burnley.

But, wouldn't be my choice.

[RalphCoatesComb]

Mark Robins for me.

Northern guy with an excellent work ethic.

[theonlywayisup]

Lampard is a slightly odd one.

He did a decent job at Derby (better if one compares with what came after) but then was promoted to the elite level far too early and he's never given himself the opportunity to really learn his craft (something that might be an issue for Kompany).

He's clearly an intelligent, articulate bloke who made the best of his ability as a player and had a self awareness as to his limitations. I'm not sure his experience at Everton was is a great barometer and his return to Chelsea was a total hiding to nothing (and I'm not sure why he did it).

So I'd not entirely rule him out - particularly if he came with the right team around him. But I can see why there's some scepticism.

Agreed

[randomclaret2]

Interested to know why those voting for Knutsen are doing so ? He's 56 years old and has only ever managed in Norway.

[RVclaret]

Some good, balanced comments about Lampard. Wouldn’t be top of my list but you can see why we’d be interested. I’ve commented how the next manager must be good with managing younger players and Lampard has shown that so far. Then of course there’s his brand of football which is more or less a continuation of Kompany. As claretspice said he’s had a less than ideal baptism of fire to management with the two most recent roles. We’d also benefit from his ‘pull’ in the Championship and remain an attractive club for top young players.

[bigdavethemaddog]

Ahh no no to Lampard he has done nothing as a manager for him to get the job.

his Championship record with Derby is actually decent. Nobody has done any better at Chelsea and arguably only Dyche has done any better at Everton where FL was working in challenging circumstances

[taio]

Some good, balanced comments about Lampard. Wouldn’t be top of my list but you can see why we’d be interested. I’ve commented how the next manager must be good with managing younger players and Lampard has shown that so far. Then of course there’s his brand of football which is more or less a continuation of Kompany. As claretspice said he’s had a less than ideal baptism of fire to management with the two most recent roles. We’d also benefit from his ‘pull’ in the Championship and remain an attractive club for top young players.

What Dyche has done at Everton in very difficult circumstances shows how bad of a job Lampard did there.

[RVclaret]

What Dyche has done at Everton in very difficult circumstances shows how bad of a job Lampard did there.

Dyche the more experienced PL manager (and better manager for what they need) for sure. But Lampard still kept them up.

[taio]

Dyche the more experienced PL manager (and better manager for what they need) for sure. But Lampard still kept them up.

He was taking them down in 2023 which is why they rightly binned him.

[nil_desperandum]

David Moyes is not dropping into the championship to manage us.

As much chance as pol pot winning the nobel peace prize

So what opportunities do you see for Moyes in the PL at present?
Doubt he'll want to move abroad at this stage of his career.
He has a lot of connections (+ a house) up here.
He would inherit one of the strongest (if not the strongest) squads in the Championship, and a two year contract for him with a bonus if he takes us up and keeps us up would surely be almost perfect for him??

[bigdavethemaddog]

So what opportunities do you see for Moyes in the PL at present?
Doubt he'll want to move abroad at this stage of his career.
He has a lot of connections (+ a house) up here.
He would inherit one of the strongest (if not the strongest) squads in the Championship, and a two year contract for him with a bonus if he takes us up and keeps us up would surely be almost perfect for him??

he will probably do like Dyche did and have a break and wait for the right opportunity to come along, its not like he needs to work to make ends meet

[taio]

So what opportunities do you see for Moyes in the PL at present?
Doubt he'll want to move abroad at this stage of his career.
He has a lot of connections (+ a house) up here.
He would inherit one of the strongest (if not the strongest) squads in the Championship, and a two year contract for him with a bonus if he takes us up and keeps us up would surely be almost perfect for him??

It wouldn't be long before a PL opportunity comes his way. I imagine he would also get paid handsomely and well above what we paid Kompany in the PL.

[burnley007]

any news on Fabregas yet?

[nil_desperandum]

he will probably do like Dyche did and have a break and wait for the right opportunity to come along, its not like he needs to work to make ends meet

That can't be discounted, but the only opportunities that he will be offered in the PL now will be if someone sacks their manager, so he will most likely find himself in a fight against relegation, so could easily end up in the Championship anyway.
I also think that being 10 years older than Dyche is a factor. If he wants to continue in management, then he probably needs to get back fairly quickly. (Only my view of course)

[Vegas Claret]

Moyes isn't going from winning a European trophy to the Championship

[Burnley Ace]

Just remember, whoever we appoint will be using Burnley as a stepping stone towards a job with a bigger club.

[burnley007]

Just remember, whoever we appoint will be using Burnley as a stepping stone towards a job with a bigger club.

I've got no problem with that. Fine.

[CoolClaret]

Moyes isn't going from winning a European trophy to the Championship

Not sure how anyone can come out with absolute statements like this after we've just seen Bayern Munich come for our manager.

Moyes might fancy a more stable job where he can get a solid 3/4 years out of nearer to his family home... He's 61 - he might appreciate being able to be at home more often these days.

[Rick_Muller]

Moyes isn't going from winning a European trophy to the Championship

Kompany ain’t going from relegation in the Prem to a top 5 Europea…. Oh… I’ll get me coat

[bigdavethemaddog]

Not sure how anyone can come out with absolute statements like this after we've just seen Bayern Munich come for our manager.

Moyes might fancy a more stable job where he can get a solid 3/4 years out of nearer to his family home... He's 61 - he might appreciate being able to be at home more often these days.

where does Moyes actually live?

[DCWat]

I'm not advocating Lampard and I'd have reservations - as I say I can see why people are sceptical.

However. I think his season at Derby was OK. He took an aging Gary Rowett squad and galvanised it into a much younger team that got into the play offs (just, admittedly) and fell at the final hurdle. Great achievement? No. Passable first season in management? Yes.

Chelsea came too soon for him but he won plaudits for his first season, relying on youth and making the Champions League in good style against expectations and despite a transfer embargo. Clearly he then failed to back that up in his following season (albeit apparently after being saddled with signings he did not want). He then made the error of signing up to replace Benitez in the midst of a relegation battle as things were turning toxic at Everton. He basically left them in the same position as he inherited them a year later.

Is it a compelling record? Absolutely not. But it does show a bit of credibility when it comes to galvanising, inspiring and developing younger players, whilst playing a style compatible with this squad. It is also possible his background might help win immediate buy in from from a squad that signed for a very big name in Kompany and might need winning over to whoever takes over (and i wouldnt underestimatethe psychology of this in a very international squad put together usihg VK's persoal pulling power). So whilst I have reservations, and would put Cooper well ahead of him in my preferences, I'd not entirely rule him out if - and this is an important caveat - he came with the sort of top class, experienced coaching team he lacked elsewhere.

Some valid points as ever, Spice. I just feel that there are a few too many caveats and other factors when it comes to saying he’d be an option to consider.

I do think that he could have a decent managerial career. He’s obviously an intelligent bloke and he comes across well, whenever I hear him. In a more comfortable position as a club, I’d probably be more on side with someone like Lampard, as it stands right now though, he looks too much of a gamble.

Of course, whoever we get will be a gamble, we just need to shorten the odds as much as possible.

[Vegas Claret]

Not sure how anyone can come out with absolute statements like this after we've just seen Bayern Munich come for our manager.

Moyes might fancy a more stable job where he can get a solid 3/4 years out of nearer to his family home... He's 61 - he might appreciate being able to be at home more often these days.

Kompany was Bayern's 8th or 9th choice, they were desperate. Moyes won't be desperate.

[taio]

Not sure how anyone can come out with absolute statements like this after we've just seen Bayern Munich come for our manager.

Moyes might fancy a more stable job where he can get a solid 3/4 years out of nearer to his family home... He's 61 - he might appreciate being able to be at home more often these days.

It does feel like it would be an ambitious move but, agree with you that, unless the club know with 100% certainty that he wouldn't be interested, we ought to be asking the question of him and his agent.

[CoolClaret]

Kompany was Bayern's 8th or 9th choice, they were desperate. Moyes won't be desperate.

Anything can happen - that's the point. It's nowhere near as farfetched as our manager going to Munich on the back of our season.

where does Moyes actually live?

House in Lytham/Poulton area I believe.

[morninbob]

where does Moyes actually live?

On the front at Lytham, Colin hendrys old house.

[sjb]

where does Moyes actually live?

He did live in Lytham, not sure if he still does.

[nil_desperandum]

Moyes isn't going from winning a European trophy to the Championship

He may well be if he gets a lower end PL job, (which is the most likely scenario) and can't keep them up.

[Blyclaret]

Did anyone pay money to that gobshite find out who the third option was ??

[Hedontplayforyou]

Did anyone pay money to that gobshite find out who the third option was ??

I’d hazard a guess and say that only two were named so when the successful candidate is named he can claim to have known , wether or not he actual did can’t be proved then

[bigdavethemaddog]

Farke might be available shortly

[Aclaret]

Farke might be available shortly

Farke off

[It Is What It Is]

LAMPARD in the mix ......ffs

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burne ... lacements/

[Vegas Claret]

Anything can happen - that's the point. It's nowhere near as farfetched as our manager going to Munich on the back of our season.

of course anything could happen, but he was earning over 4 million per season at WHU..........

[PremierLeagueClass]

Just remember, whoever we appoint will be using Burnley as a stepping stone towards a job with a bigger club.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with this. It’s the same for any manager. Would you ever go into a job and think, yep this is me now forever.

[It Is What It Is]

He did live in Lytham, not sure if he still does.

Saw him on The Green in Lytham with his dog about 4 weeks ago ....I would say yes.
If I see him...I'll front him up and ask him !!

[Goody1975]

of course anything could happen, but he was earning over 4 million per season at WHU..........

What's he earning now?

[Vegas Claret]

What's he earning now?

According to the internet his net worth is anywhere between 18-22 million. I suspect he's not remotely arsed, his investments alone will be paying him handsomely. Loads of top level managers take seasons out because they prioritize other things, I doubt he'll rush back into it unless it's a really good opportunity for him.

[Taffy on the wing]

Lampard would be more of the same thing we just had.......he's clueless!
Wouldn't touch him with a barge-pole.

[gandhisflipflop]

This is true

Wouldn't be my choice out of the many varied and positive options potentially available.

However, for the interest of balance, his 'failure' with Derby was reaching the Championship playoff final. Which is what Steve Cooper did at Forest. Cooper's side beat Huddersfield and Lampard's Derby lost to Villa. One game at Wembley makes one a progressive man of the moment and the other a loser?

Lampard has experience of finishing fourth in the PL and getting into the CL. He also has come through a relegation battle with a basket case club.

His track record is far superior to what Vincent Kompany's was before he came to Burnley.

But, wouldn't be my choice.

Very fair comments

[Rileybobs]

One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.

[nil_desperandum]

One thing to consider is as of tomorrow we may be competing with Leeds United for a new manager.

I think that will most likely be the case.
Farke for Burnley? (Not for me)