Next manager

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

He’s just got away with giving a crap manager a four year contract. Seems to make the same mistake again and again. If it has to be Lampard hope its a maximum two year deal if we are so desperate to get someone in.

[golden days]

Cornet missed an important penalty

I don't think anybody has said otherwise, was it Everton he scored a late winner, or somebody else?

[golden days]

He’s just got away with giving a crap manager a four year contract. Seems to make the same mistake again and again. If it has to be Lampard hope its a maximum two year deal if we are so desperate to get someone in.

Which crap manager?

[123EasyasBFC]

Which crap manager?

Think he’s talking about kompany having a 4 year deal

[golden days]

Think he’s talking about kompany having a 4 year deal

Certainly wasn't crap when we won the league

[burnley007]

Certainly wasn't crap when we won the league

Bayern stole Burnley’s crap manager.

Yeah, good one.

[golden days]

Bayern stole Burnley’s crap manager.

Yeah, good one.

Is that the manager who romped the league we're in now

[Vim Fuego]

Last season didn't happen did it. A figment of our imagination. A bad dream.

[golden days]

Last season didn't happen did it. A figment of our imagination. A bad dream.

Not at all
But neither should the season before where we romped the league be forgotten

[HahaYeah]

Lampard news.

"Some opportunities have come my way. They didn’t feel right for the time,” Lampard tells talkSPORT (7 June, 11am). “But now I feel ready so we will see what opportunities come up. I’m certainly ready to work. I love doing what I do, so we will see.”

When asked specifically to comment on those Burnley links, the former England midfielder was keen to point out that he would merely not take the next job offered to him, but the right one.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2024/06/07/c ... y-for-job/

[helmclaret]

Latest Bet Victor odds;

Lampard 4/5
Bellamy 5/2
RVN 6/1
Parker 10/1
Rosenior 12/1

[HahaYeah]

Alan Nixon took to X, formerly known as Twitter, and confirmed that Van Nistelrooy had ‘put himself forward’ for the vacant managerial role at Burnley.

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/ruud ... -one-club/

[HahaYeah]

Van Nistelrooys mindset.

Van Nistelrooy said: “I am looking at countries where I have played myself, like England, Germany, Netherlands and Spain.

“But a club with a good profile could well be in Belgium as well. I will definitely stay within Western Europe. I am not going to work in the desert. I want to show what I can do as a coach.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... d-32786457

[BurnleyFC]

Van Nistelrooy would probably be the best striker at the club, too.

[HahaYeah]

More Nistelrooy from back in March 2024.

Reckons he's had offers from some big clubs but wants to manage in Spain or England.

“It matters to me that it is a well organised club. I still want to work with young players, but ideally with a mixture of experienced professionals. I want to help them improve and bring a winning mentality.

“The latter is the most important thing. With my style of football.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26764588 ... b-england/

[dsr]

More Nistelrooy from back in March 2024.

Reckons he's had offers from some big clubs but wants to manage in Spain or England.

“It matters to me that it is a well organised club. I still want to work with young players, but ideally with a mixture of experienced professionals. I want to help them improve and bring a winning mentality.

“The latter is the most important thing. With my style of football.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26764588 ... b-england/

Instead of a manager who has a "my style of football", I'd rather have a manager who looks at the players he has available and plays tactics that suit them. When it comes down the the last 15 minutes and we're a goal down, it's the players who have to score the goal, not the manager.

[Rileybobs]

Instead of a manager who has a "my style of football", I'd rather have a manager who looks at the players he has available and plays tactics that suit them. When it comes down the the last 15 minutes and we're a goal down, it's the players who have to score the goal, not the manager.

This was the disappointing thing about Kompany (or one of!). They’re coaches, they should be able to coach and improve players, not just expect the chequebook to be opened to buy a squad full of players who perfectly fit their style of play.

[summitclaret]

Is this our man? Absolutely agree with the need for a strong defensive centre midfielder.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/qpr-m ... news-view/

[Row Z]

This was the disappointing thing about Kompany (or one of!). They’re coaches, they should be able to coach and improve players, not just expect the chequebook to be opened to buy a squad full of players who perfectly fit their style of play.

Agree with the criticism but not with it being aimed at the use of the chequebook. A player in VKs system needs to be comfortable on the ball, mobile, take in instructions and execute etc.. so I understand that he needs to buy the players who are capable (or can become capable).

The bigger issue for me is the rigidity to this style of play and lack of willingness or ableness to change it. No plan B just means if plan A doesn’t work, then we’re not winning that game.

[Sproggy]

This was the disappointing thing about Kompany (or one of!). They’re coaches, they should be able to coach and improve players, not just expect the chequebook to be opened to buy a squad full of players who perfectly fit their style of play.

He takes after his mentor in that respect.

[Carlos the Great]

Is this our man? Absolutely agree with the need for a strong defensive centre midfielder.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/qpr-m ... news-view/

I think he is quite possibly our best option

[Rowls]

When did Burnley fans start thinking that the likes of Parker & Lampard are not good enough for us?

It’s not a case of “not good enough for the likes of us”.

As players they were better than us, but we’re attempting to judge them as managers. Martin buchan was far too good as a player to ever have played for us but it didn’t mean he was therefore cut out to manage us.

These are managers who have had some successes at Championship level and relative success and failure in the Premier league.

It’s perfectly legitimate debate and the managerial career of these two is precisely our level over the past few seasons.

[dougcollins]

I think he is quite possibly our best option

From all the given options, he remains my preferred candidate.

[Pickles]

He takes after his mentor in that respect.

Guardiola doesn't improve players? Akanji, Foden, Silva, Rodri, Stones, Walker just off the top of my head have all improved under Guardiola.

Yes, there is a huge budget at Man City but it isn't their model to go out and buy the ready made best of the best, Galactico style.

Guardiola absolutely improves players.

[agreenwood]

Guardiola doesn't improve players? Akanji, Foden, Silva, Rodri, Stones, Walker just off the top of my head have all improved under Guardiola.

Yes, there is a huge budget at Man City but it isn't their model to go out and buy the ready made best of the best, Galactico style.

Guardiola absolutely improves players.

You’re wasting your time mate. Apparently passing football is **** and top managers are ****.

[kentonclaret]

Is this our man? Absolutely agree with the need for a strong defensive centre midfielder.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/qpr-m ... news-view/

Currently 25/1 with Sky Bet.

If there has been any interest expressed by Burnley it’s certainly not being reflected in the betting market.

[CoolClaret]

Instead of a manager who has a "my style of football", I'd rather have a manager who looks at the players he has available and plays tactics that suit them. When it comes down the the last 15 minutes and we're a goal down, it's the players who have to score the goal, not the manager.

Spot on. Then overtime they can slowly change the style with their preferred signings but having just one way of playing, never deviating and getting players to do things isn't 'managing' at all.

Managing is about setting players up for success by implementing tactics that gets the most out of them, which we didn't have one bit all last season.

[Rileybobs]

Agree with the criticism but not with it being aimed at the use of the chequebook. A player in VKs system needs to be comfortable on the ball, mobile, take in instructions and execute etc.. so I understand that he needs to buy the players who are capable (or can become capable).

The bigger issue for me is the rigidity to this style of play and lack of willingness or ableness to change it. No plan B just means if plan A doesn’t work, then we’re not winning that game.

With Kompany I was referring more to the fact that upon winning the league he opted to ‘upgrade’ a number of players, who were some of the best in the Championship, rather than working to improve them. Rob Edwards achieved the same, in fact slightly more, by coaching his players - some of whom had come from the lower leagues.

It’s not hard to imagine that some of our players felt let down.

[123EasyasBFC]

Someone has put some money on Henry dropped to 16/1 from 33/1 this morning

[BurnleyFC]

This was the disappointing thing about Kompany (or one of!). They’re coaches, they should be able to coach and improve players, not just expect the chequebook to be opened to buy a squad full of players who perfectly fit their style of play.

I think Vinny genuinely thought he could do this, hence the scatter gun approach to recruitment and putting square pegs in round holes by playing players in unnatural positions (Al-Dakhil at right back and left back, anyone?)

Unfortunately for us, he couldn’t.

[NL Claret]

Someone has put some money on Henry dropped to 16/1 from 33/1 this morning

These markets are a very poor indicator at this point in the search for a new manager. The amount could be no more than £2.

[Longsider]

Currently 25/1 with Sky Bet.

If there has been any interest expressed by Burnley it’s certainly not being reflected in the betting market.

Now linked with Sunderland

[Colburn_Claret]

Agree with the criticism but not with it being aimed at the use of the chequebook. A player in VKs system needs to be comfortable on the ball, mobile, take in instructions and execute etc.. so I understand that he needs to buy the players who are capable (or can become capable).

The bigger issue for me is the rigidity to this style of play and lack of willingness or ableness to change it. No plan B just means if plan A doesn’t work, then we’re not winning that game.

Just going to post the same.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I loved the last promotion, and it's also clear that Plan A worked a treat.
This season has shown that VK never had a Plan B, and that intransigence got us relegated. It also got him the BM job.

It will be interesting to see how Bayern do when/if Plan A fails.

Going forward, I would rather a manager who wants to play the same style of football, but they have to have a Plan B, and C. We have a lot of talent, that as a team need to learn to walk before they can run. This appointment has a lot hanging on it.

[ClaretPete001]

Cornet scored a few but as Carlos says, had the penalty miss, another bad miss at Norwich and a lot of anonymous games. He could be anonymous then score a belter, he didn't easily fit our system as he wasn't a Dyche winger or a flat 442 forward.
I've maintained that when it was apparent Wood was off form (in hindsight downed tools) and we nearly won at Chelsea going to 433 with Jay/Vydra/Cornet, Dyche should have stuck with that for a few games. It gave us so much more mobility up top letting us restore our press and break faster, and the midfield 3 covered everyone's tiring legs. Also firmly believe that when Weghorst arrived we should have made a move to 4231 with some combo of JBG(if fit), Dwight, McNeil or for pace alone Vydra, sat behind Weghorst. Him and Jay never worked, Wout often played deeper and Jay was in the Wood role further ahead (for everyone who chooses to believe the head on a stick myth the heat maps and pressing stats prove otherwise).

There were undoubtedly square peg decisions that last season, Dyche having to work with players I suspect either he didn't want, or didn't want at the time/in the role that was forced due to other departures - for example I think had Weghorst arrived in the summer he'd have been a very natural partner for Wood in Dyches favoured system, but wasn't a like for like replacement.

As it is, Dyche struggled to adapt and make the most of what was a difficult set of tools, but seems to have learned and be adapting better at Everton. I never wanted him sacked, would have given him the Championship season to bounce back, but there we are things have changed.

This is going off topic again but....

You can look back in hindsight and shuffle the pack but the fact is Dyche suffered from a lack of investment and when investment did finally arrive we bought 3 defenders.

In the 2017/18 season, we had Cork, Westwood, Brady, Hendrick, Defour, JBG, Aaron Lennon, Dwight Mc Neil, Dean Marney and Scott Arfield in midfield.

Four years later - yes four years in the PL later we had Cork, JBG, Brownhill, Mc Neil, Stephens and Westwood.

Cork, Stephens and Westwood were all in into their 30s. No way can you play Dyche's pressing 4-4-2 with 30 odd year old Cork and Westwood as good as both players undoubtedly were. Not least because both had injury issues.

Didn't the game you refer to end up with Mc Neil, Westwood and Brownhill as a midfield 3 and Chelsea had 25 shots. Are you seriously suggesting Burnley could play in the PL with those three as a midfield 3.

Dyche hasn't learned anything at Everton he has Onana, Doucoure, Mc Neil, Harrison and Garner in Midfield.

[123EasyasBFC]

You know what putting out there I’m convinced frank lampard is going to be announced before euros starts on Friday

[ClaretPete001]

Dyche hasn't learned anything at Everton he has Onana, Doucoure, Mc Neil, Harrison and Garner in Midfield.

And of course, probably the best of them Idrissa Gana Gueye

[Rowls]

Someone has put some money on Henry dropped to 16/1 from 33/1 this morning

This would be a disaster. His time at Monaco was Mike Jackson level bad.

[beddie]

You know what putting out there I’m convinced frank lampard is going to be announced before euros starts on Friday

I hope not. I wasn’t being “Ruud” by the way.

[northeastclaret]

You know what putting out there I’m convinced frank lampard is going to be announced before euros starts on Friday

JJ Watt said recently that he was involved in the second round of interviews indicating there maybe some way to go yet.

[Carlos the Great]

I watched Wayne Rooney analysing England game and although a wonderful player understood fully why he has been dreadful as a manager

[123EasyasBFC]

JJ Watt said recently that he was involved in the second round of interviews indicating there maybe some way to go yet.

Did he say that on the pat macaff show? Don’t know I’ve just got a feeling that Pace will think announce Lampard then let him go and be a pundit and he can be introduced as Burnley manager on the shows he’s on, any publicity is good in Pace eyes

[Wokingclaret]

OGS linked to Leicester

[burnley007]

OGS linked to Leicester

Hilarious

[Rowls]

Just had an awful thought about Southgate becoming available shorlty after the Euros and us still having a vacancy to fill.

[bfcjg]

Just had an awful thought about Southgate becoming available shorlty after the Euros and us still having a vacancy to fill.

I think the catering has been subcontracted out,that said the delay is long enough waiting for a pie with Gareth serving them game would be over.

[KlyBfc]

Frank Lampard would be a disastrous appointment, not only is he a sub standard manager he also probably won’t start work until mid July due to the Euros.

I am clutching to the notion that even our owners can’t be stupid enough to appoint him because of his stature as player…


As for Southgate he will think himself an elite manager now, little Burnley won’t enter his head.

[jojomk1]

JJ Watt said recently that he was involved in the second round of interviews indicating there maybe some way to go yet.

If true, are we are seriously thinking JJ Watt can spot a good manager

[Claretitus]

Just had an awful thought about Southgate becoming available shorlty after the Euros and us still having a vacancy to fill.

I wouldn’t let Southgate coach our ballboys.

[JohnMac]

But where's the logic? He wasn't stagnating because of the coaches but because of the chaos you allude to...!

It started before the takeover from his falling out with Garlick it only went downhill. He was a good Manager but even the Senior players revealed it became all about Dyche and not Burnley FC.

[northeastclaret]

If true, are we are seriously thinking JJ Watt can spot a good manager

What a strange negative thing to say. We have a joint owner who has been an elite sportsman and an absolute winner. Who will be joining a panel of business men and we may also have football consultancy specialists advising as well. So why not have him giving his input as part of a team.