Next manager

[NewClaret]

It’s a depressing state of affairs HahaYeah. I’m far less hopeful of an automatic return than I was if we’d kept Kompany, whoever takes over.

But in terms of who would attract the best young players and also who would have the best contacts in the game to form a good back room staff, I’d say it’s Lampard or RVN (who doesn’t really seem to be linked at all).

[bfcjg]

I don't bet, but surely bookies put out stories to keep the story live and the bets rolling in ? I read an article on the Burnley Express online and Glen Little thinks it will be a manager in the mould of Kompany ,maybe someone we haven't really thought off, although after 54 pages I think every living manager/ ex player has been linked.

[NL Claret]

I don't bet, but surely bookies put out stories to keep the story live and the bets rolling in ? I read an article on the Burnley Express online and Glen Little thinks it will be a manager in the mould of Kompany ,maybe someone we haven't really thought off, although after 54 pages I think every living manager/ ex player has been linked.

To my knowledge not many bookies have been bothered to open a book as there will be very little interest or income. It might cost them more to run a book on a market like this.

[HahaYeah]

Liam Rosenior will not be next Sunderland boss as ex-Hull manager battles Frank Lampard for Burnley job

TS say he's not short of admirers and had previously turned down Plymouth Argyll.

https://talksport.com/football/1917205/ ... mpionship/

[KefkaClaret]

Really hope it’s not Rosenior, that Hull team looked very good on paper. To not even get the playoffs is poor.

[Darnhill Claret]

He was shortlisted for Championship Manager of the Season, so he impressed some. Play- offs were within reach until the final game of the season, I believe.

[burnley007]

He was shortlisted for Championship Manager of the Season, so he impressed some. Play- offs were within reach until the final game of the season, I believe.

Hull fans weren't sad to see him leave. That says enough for me, apparently the football was pretty grim, even with all that talent at his disposal.

He certainly didn't get Zaroury playing.

[Swizzlestick]

Hull fans weren't sad to see him leave. That says enough for me, apparently the football was pretty grim, even with all that talent at his disposal.

He certainly didn't get Zaroury playing.

Is that down to the manager or Zaroury?

Views on this thread are a little more balanced - https://www.not606.com/threads/rosenior ... nd.413023/

[RVclaret]

Hull fans weren't sad to see him leave. That says enough for me, apparently the football was pretty grim, even with all that talent at his disposal.

He certainly didn't get Zaroury playing.

Depends which Hull fans you speak to I guess. Just like it depends which Burnley fans you speak to about Kompany. Chatting to one before who said ‘most Hull fans loved him and were sad to see him leave, he’d be a great fit for Burnley’. As for the football I watched them at Southampton and they played some of the best football I saw in the Championship all season. Zaroury never really found form and then got injured. Why not highlight how he got Delap playing at a high level (wanted in the Prem / overseas for £10-15m now) despite him being pretty rubbish at his previous two loans?

[Blyclaret]

LR fav on betvictor now …. First time Lampard hasent been fav since the start of this process.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s such a football fan thing to do, as soon as anyone leaves your club they were ‘never that good anyway’

I don’t particularly think rosenior has what it takes but from the outside he seems to be more of a tactical coach than Lampard which I think we need rather than just a name.

Rosenior is equally as impressive the way he comes across as Lampard

[Boss Hogg]

Was hoping Sunderland would appoint Rosenior. Not sure what he’s actually achieved in management.

[RVclaret]

Was hoping Sunderland would appoint Rosenior. Not sure what he’s actually achieved in management.

Taking a side from 1 point off relegation to 7th within a season, developing players to sell for large fees and completely changing the style of play? Isn’t that good progress?

Or do we need to have a binary view that a manager must have won a title to be deemed an achievement? Again I’ll highlight Swansea finished 10th in the Championship when Brighton hired Potter.

[HahaYeah]

Nixon yesterday:

“Liam Rosenior is OUT of the race for the Sunderland job in a shock twist. Rosenior pulled out of a second interview with the Black Cats after thinking over the move. The former Hull City chief is hoping for a chance of the Burnley vacancy although insiders claim others are ahead in the chase.”

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... h-29340762

[northeastclaret]

Used to live in Hull so took an interest in Roseniors time there , he was certainly a disciple of Kompany and modelled the way he played on similar principles, from comments he made.

[TheFamilyCat]

I don't bet, but surely bookies put out stories to keep the story live and the bets rolling in ? I read an article on the Burnley Express online and Glen Little thinks it will be a manager in the mould of Kompany ,maybe someone we haven't really thought off, although after 54 pages I think every living manager/ ex player has been linked.

I haven't seen Glen himself linked. Worth a cheeky bet?

[dannyonclarets]

One of my mates is a Hull season ticket holder. In a nutshell he said the sacking was pathetic and "Rosenior would be a very good fit for Burnley". Personally I can see him picking up the baton and wanting to play the same way we did under Kompany which I liked.

[Casper2]

Parker favourite on Sky bet

[Row Z]

I have had similar from a Preston season ticket holder - that Hull were the best side he saw at deepdale last season and that they were set up very well and played some great football but just couldn’t score.

[Longsider]

Let's have another poll. Anyone care to set one up
Parker
Lampard
Nistelroy
Rosenior
Bellamy

[NewClaret]

I have had similar from a Preston season ticket holder - that Hull were the best side he saw at deepdale last season and that they were set up very well and played some great football but just couldn’t score.

Interesting as I’d like to think our attacking talent could’ve resolved that challenge!

[Steddyman]

Parker favourite on Sky bet

Now odds on at 4/6 with Sky

[Penwortham_Claret]

It looks like something is occurring with Parker. 1/3 with bet victor now too

[RVclaret]

Parker probably the one I’m least enthused about despite 2 promotions. Completely failed at Club Brugge recently and his football is weary.

[HahaYeah]

Let's have another poll. Anyone care to set one up
Parker
Lampard
Nistelroy
Rosenior
Bellamy

Out of that list, Lampard for me.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Someone noticed that Parker has had an interview with Pace this week and put a few quid on?

[kentonclaret]

It looks like something is occurring with Parker. 1/3 with bet victor now too

Oddschecker showing 2/1 with Coral and Ladbrokes.

Bet Victor always seem the stingiest odds.

[Nonayforever]

I will nail my colours to the mast.
I think Rosenior would be a very good appointment. More than happy to see him as manager over Parker, RVN, Lampard or Bellamy.

[Steddyman]

Someone probably spotted a pink Rolls Royce at Crow Wood.

[Gordaleman]

Out of that list, Lampard for me.

Bellamy for me. At least he knows the players to keep and those to let go. It would also be easier to continue the same system because I think anyone else would change it and we can't spend half a season getting used to a new one.

Sneaking suspicion that it might still be someone not on that list though.

[123EasyasBFC]

Lampard down to 5/1 is great odds for someone who likes to bet

[HahaYeah]

Bellamy for me. At least he knows the players to keep and those to let go. It would also be easier to continue the same system because I think anyone else would change it and we can't spend half a season getting used to a new one.

Sneaking suspicion that it might still be someone not on that list though.

I would have Bellamy in 2nd place and I like him but there's a question mark over his temperament.

Nistelrooy a little risky.

Parker and Rosenior just a bit underwhelming.

[NL Claret]

Lampard down to 5/1 is great odds for someone who likes to bet

How much have you put on?

[ksrclaret]

I think, overall, that fans will give the new manager a chance, whoever it is, but I see Scott Parker as a far riskier test of that than Frank Lampard.

From what I've seen written, there seems to be a common thought amongst people who know him that he has a difficult personality to work with.

[Rileybobs]

The constant update of betting odds is quite tiresome. At this stage there clearly isn’t any intel as to who our next manager will be so they’re completely meaningless.

[RVclaret]

The constant update of betting odds is quite tiresome. At this stage there clearly isn’t any intel as to who our next manager will be so they’re completely meaningless.

Going from 20/1 to 1/3 in a day suggests someone’s put a fair bit on does it not? And if so there can be ‘inside info’ reasons for that?

[Rileybobs]

Going from 20/1 to 1/3 in a day suggests someone’s put a fair bit on does it not? And if so there can be ‘inside info’ reasons for that?

It depends what you mean by a fair bit. £50 maybe. The odds are constantly shifting as people place small bets so I really don’t get why we have almost hourly updates on the betting odds on here when at this stage they don’t correlate with who is going to get the job.

Hasn’t it been reported that the next stage of interviews will take place next week?

[123EasyasBFC]

How much have you put on?

Haven’t bothered, last one I did was cooper to Leicester whilst it was 11/1

[Penwortham_Claret]

It depends what you mean by a fair bit. £50 maybe. The odds are constantly shifting as people place small bets so I really don’t get why we have almost hourly updates on the betting odds on here when at this stage they don’t correlate with who is going to get the job.

Hasn’t it been reported that the next stage of interviews will take place next week?

For such a big shift across multiple platforms, the driver is far more substantial that a £50 wager

[123EasyasBFC]

It depends what you mean by a fair bit. £50 maybe. The odds are constantly shifting as people place small bets so I really don’t get why we have almost hourly updates on the betting odds on here when at this stage they don’t correlate with who is going to get the job.

Hasn’t it been reported that the next stage of interviews will take place next week?

When I put 10er on cooper to Leicester at 11/1, it instantly went down to 8/1 so i don’t you are probably right with your £50 mark for it to make the odds drop massively.

You’d think someone with proper inside information would put more than £50 on

[DCWat]

When I put 10er on cooper to Leicester at 11/1, it instantly went down to 8/1 so i don’t you are probably right with your £50 mark for it to make the odds drop massively.

You’d think someone with proper inside information would put more than £50 on

How much do they limit it to…? Had a check on Sky Bet and the max I could have put on was £50, not sure about others.

[RVclaret]

It depends what you mean by a fair bit. £50 maybe. The odds are constantly shifting as people place small bets so I really don’t get why we have almost hourly updates on the betting odds on here when at this stage they don’t correlate with who is going to get the job.

Hasn’t it been reported that the next stage of interviews will take place next week?

I think it would have to be more than 50, I was thinking more 200, to go from 20/1 into 1/3 like that. There is a rumour that someone interviewed already has really impressed the board. Agree in general about hourly updates but a 20/1 - 1/3 move is fairly substantial within a day. I don’t read too much into it mind, Rosenior was 1/4 to be Sunderland manager last night, today he’s pulled out of the race.

[Rileybobs]

For such a big shift across multiple platforms, the driver is far more substantial that a £50 wager

We’ll see. Steve Cooper was the favourite to be our next manager from the outset until he said he wasn’t interested. What was that based on? When a new manager is close it will become apparent very quickly and betting will be suspended. Until then the odds are practically meaningless as the history of this thread goes to prove.

[Goobs]

Let's have another poll. Anyone care to set one up
Parker
Lampard
Nistelroy
Rosenior
Bellamy

Said before any names were mentioned that I would like us to go for Rosenior. Would be happy with RVN and would settle for Bellamy or Lampard if that's who they choose but really don't want Parker, the guy creeps me out.

[whiffa]

At the start of this process I thought to myself, anyone but Scott Parker - something about the bloke I can't click with. I'm sure as a manager he'd be fully capable of doing a good job for us though.

[Longsider]

Out of that list, Lampard for me.
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Rosenior for me. I think he is most likely to play the football I loved when we had Vinny in the Championship.

[NL Claret]

It depends what you mean by a fair bit. £50 maybe. The odds are constantly shifting as people place small bets so I really don’t get why we have almost hourly updates on the betting odds on here when at this stage they don’t correlate with who is going to get the job.

Hasn’t it been reported that the next stage of interviews will take place next week?

These really aren’t good markets and are probably stacked in the bookies favour. Not that I’m going to place a bet here’s the case with next Leicester manager with Paddy Power.

Max bet on Potter @4/9 is £1126

Max bet on Carrick @25/1 is £20

Max bet on Cooper @ 5/1 is £100

So few bookies are interested in a next Burnley market is possibly due to it costing them more money for someone to create the market than the amount of money that is placed.

[dougcollins]

Not looked on this thread for a while.

Have we got a manager yet?

[123EasyasBFC]

I think it would have to be more than 50, I was thinking more 200, to go from 20/1 into 1/3 like that. There is a rumour that someone interviewed already has really impressed the board. Agree in general about hourly updates but a 20/1 - 1/3 move is fairly substantial within a day. I don’t read too much into it mind, Rosenior was 1/4 to be Sunderland manager last night, today he’s pulled out of the race.

Don’t think it would take much for a manager to impress our board

[Claret Toni]

He is hosting a forum with their fans tonight and has been brutally honest by all accounts. A few of the bits I have picked up:

- Sacked Rosenior as he felt he wasn't using their full attacking potential that he wanted to see.
- He has put a £10m bid in for Delap.
- Basically said their GK (Allsop) hasn't been good enough.
- Called Aaron Connolly a wimp.
- Compared Harry Vaughan to George Best.

I reckon we could use more openness from our Chairman, not sure about a public rant though

Dragged this up. The quotes were attributed to the Hull City Chairman.

It does not put me off appointing Rosenior, and if it's true that he pulled out of the Sunderland 2nd interview, 'cos he wanted the Burnley job I can't fault his judgement.