Next manager

[Hedontplayforyou]

The new man must have been decided upon if indeed the assistant has been poached to join him.

If they hired an assistant that the new number 1 didn’t get on with then we are off to a losing start immediately

[beddie]

The new man must have been decided upon if indeed the assistant has been poached to join him.

If they hired an assistant that the new number 1 didn’t get on with then we are off to a losing start immediately

All sounds unusually strange.

[Vegas Claret]

If that was Lampard's record we wouldn't be happy

[123EasyasBFC]

If that was Lampard's record we wouldn't be happy

Good job the link is an assistant and not a manager

[willsclarets]

If that was Lampard's record we wouldn't be happy

No idea what the circumstances were at that club, and he's a number two. Some people are just better suited to that, plenty of great assistant managers who didn't have the right personality to be the main man.

[HahaYeah]

Let's hope the incoming manager has chosen Jensen and not the club.

[ClaretTony]

No idea what the circumstances were at that club, and he's a number two. Some people are just better suited to that, plenty of great assistant managers who didn't have the right personality to be the main man.

Leighton James once said to me that there are managers and there are coaches and that they shouldn’t cross over. I dared to ask him which role he felt he was best at. “I can do ******* both,” he said.

[Hedontplayforyou]

If that was Lampard's record we wouldn't be happy

Would we be happy with Lampard as a number 2?

[Claretpants]

I’ve gone quiet for a reason and not relating to the new manager or the board. Suffice to say that I’m dealing with a personal health issue just now.

I’m on and off the message board so will keep up with what’s going on as best I can.

Hope you get improved heath soon

[123EasyasBFC]

Who knows with the current board but I think even they wouldn’t appoint a number 2 without a manager being ready.

Surely it’s a case of the manager chose is currently employed so they are discussing compensation

[ClaretTony]

He’s got to have selected a manager there’s no way we are hiring assistant managers without the managers approval

Not necessarily. I do believe the ownership group are taking more control now having let Kompany have so much say in everything. And it’s looking more and more likely that we will appoint a head coach.

[Raconteur]

All sounds unusually strange.

It ties in to what I've read about Pace wanting to get a team of coaches that are independent from the head coach. Obviously this only works if we can get someone who will agree to be head coach and work with the clubs staff.
With us only having managers, i am not 100% sure how it works. Does a head coach get to bring in staff? You
couldn't imagine any of the names in the betting not bringing any staff in with them.

[Wokingclaret]

Not necessarily. I do believe the ownership group are taking more control now having let Kompany have so much say in everything. And it’s looking more and more likely that we will appoint a head coach.

Its ok but appointing a fitness coach from the lower leagues, doesn't sound promising

[Boss Hogg]

Can’t believe a head coach is coming in who has had no say in who the other coaches are that are working with him. Doesn’t sound like a good plan at all.

[ksrclaret]

I can’t fathom that any football club might appoint an assistant manager before the actual manager.

I mean, there’s stupid, and then there’s that. Let’s hope someone has got hold of the wrong end of the stick again.

[dougcollins]

Leighton James once said to me that there are managers and there are coaches and that they shouldn’t cross over. I dared to ask him which role he felt he was best at. “I can do ******* both,” he said.

You can just imagine what Taffy's man management skills were like.

[ClaretTony]

You can just imagine what Taffy's man management skills were like.

He was a really top bloke but always full of himself. I spoke to someone recently who was a young player at the club during Taffy's last spell as a player with us and he had nothing but good words and praise for him.

[Wokingclaret]

If this assistant goes wrong you get the Ian Porterfield and Stan situation

[helmclaret]

Its ok but appointing a fitness coach from the lower leagues, doesn't sound promising

One that was a top professional player?

[Wokingclaret]

One that was a top professional player?

He might well have been, but what's his coaching level

[Vegas Claret]

Good job the link is an assistant and not a manager

well, for someone who claims to be meticulous his results would suggest different. Got **** all to do with what job he is doing tbh, it's about matching what he says to what he has delivered and that's what puts many of us off Lampard for example

[dsr]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/danis ... ager-role/

This link seems to suggest that Pace is piecing together a coaching team/backroom staff BEFORE a new manager/head coach has been appointed and he's chosen Henrik Jensen as assistant coach due to his philosophy on how he likes his team's to play, which matches how Pace wants BFC to play.

Could it then suggest that the new manager has been chosen and has agreed for Pace to set up the backroom staff, as I would think that would be a bit of a risky thing to do otherwise?

It's irrelevant how the assistant manager wants his teams to play. The assistant manager's job is to coach players in the way the manager wants them coaching, not to coach his own way.

Google translate, I know, but it said "an assistant coach" not "the assistant coach". He may not be number two, perhaps?

[helmclaret]

He might well have been, but what's his coaching level

He’s a strength and conditioning coach. I’ve no idea what his qualifications are but he hasn’t just walked in off the street. He played at a good levels for years so I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing.

[123EasyasBFC]

well, for someone who claims to be meticulous his results would suggest different. Got **** all to do with what job he is doing tbh, it's about matching what he says to what he has delivered and that's what puts many of us off Lampard for example

Why does being meticulous mean he should get results? It’s all to do with resources, budget and playing squad. Even more so in a league like Sweden

I would say there are plenty of managers in the premier league who are very meticulous with the way they do things who never get results against the big boys

[ClaretTony]

Its ok but appointing a fitness coach from the lower leagues, doesn't sound promising

Where do you want him to come from? The last two, Mark Howard and Bram Geers, didn't play football. Neither did Tom Little who Brian Laws brought in.

Youl Mawéné had a decent playing career with Preston but that counts for nothing. What does count is the fact that he's worked in performance, fitness, sports science for the last eleven years.

[Goliath]

This sounds like an incredibly daft plan even for Alan Pace

[123EasyasBFC]

Where do you want him to come from? The last two, Mark Howard and Bram Geers, didn't play football. Neither did Tom Little who Brian Laws brought in.

Youl Mawéné had a decent playing career with Preston but that counts for nothing. What does count is the fact that he's worked in performance, fitness, sports science for the last eleven years.

Does performance coach and fitness coach mean the same thing?

Bram Geers in many of the same blind coaching videos seemed to be the one leading the seasons which pointed to him being more than a fitness coach

[ClaretTony]

Does performance coach and fitness coach mean the same thing?

Bram Geers in many of the same blind coaching videos seemed to be the one leading the seasons which pointed to him being more than a fitness coach

I'm not sure to be honest and each club seems to have different titles. Mawene was Sport Science and Strength & Conditioning Coach at Salford but either side of that was Head of Sport Science at Fleetwood. I think Mark Howard was Head of Sport Science at Burnley but Geers seemed to hold the title of Football Performance Coach.

When the club put training videos out when Dyche was manager it was usually Howard in charge but they tend just to show the warm ups.

[123EasyasBFC]

I'm not sure to be honest and each club seems to have different titles. Mawene was Sport Science and Strength & Conditioning Coach at Salford but either side of that was Head of Sport Science at Fleetwood. I think Mark Howard was Head of Sport Science at Burnley but Geers seemed to hold the title of Football Performance Coach.

When the club put training videos out when Dyche was manager it was usually Howard in charge but they tend just to show the warm ups.

Yea thats what I am trying to figure out because even at Everton mark Howard seems to be running the sessions, well at least the parts that are caught on video.

Mawene coming in under a similar job title to bram geers is interesting as he was a kompany guy, so to be appointing a potential session leader without a manager in place seems strange.

Can only hope we aren’t trying to be this new innovation club who has multiple coaches that aren’t picked by a manager to all work together

[Vegas Claret]

Why does being meticulous mean he should get results? It’s all to do with resources, budget and playing squad. Even more so in a league like Sweden

I would say there are plenty of managers in the premier league who are very meticulous with the way they do things who never get results against the big boys

Amazing you aren't reading between the lines here of what I actually said

[NewClaret]

Not necessarily. I do believe the ownership group are taking more control now having let Kompany have so much say in everything. And it’s looking more and more likely that we will appoint a head coach.

I have to say I find this incredibly frightening. It’s something I can understand, in the circumstances, but for me the time is not right to be making such a dramatic shift in our model. Had we not been relegated, fine, but I’m not sure the players will respond well to a figure with a lot less authority.

It would mean the Pawdew/Bruce links made sense in sporting director roles. I am not against either in that capacity.

I hope beyond anything that we are not appointing individuals and asking them to make it work. I’d expect even a head coach to appoint his assistant so that development is a real concern for me if not the new man’s choice.

Also, frankly, not a great record so maybe worrying for different reasons as well.

[NewClaret]

Its ok but appointing a fitness coach from the lower leagues, doesn't sound promising

Not at all.

I’m trying to be open minded here but a Fleetwood Performance coach is a worry too. I’d expect us to be looking at poaching guys from City/United, who’ve seen how things are done at the very highest level. Not scouring the lower leagues.

It’s also odd our new manager wouldn’t be selecting that role.

[burnleymik]

Surely the assistant manager has to be the choice of the new manager/head coach. That's going to be his right hand man throughout the tenure. Someone he has to trust and bounce ideas and squad discussions off.

I really hope this is what the new man has requested and not something the board have just gone out and done independently.

Surely it would put candidates off if you have little or no say over your immediate team?

[Wokingclaret]

Where do you want him to come from? The last two, Mark Howard and Bram Geers, didn't play football. Neither did Tom Little who Brian Laws brought in.

Youl Mawéné had a decent playing career with Preston but that counts for nothing. What does count is the fact that he's worked in performance, fitness, sports science for the last eleven years.

It might well work out, but we've seen for ourselves the differing levels between the top two divisions.

[Woodleyclaret]

Re fitness we lacked pace and appeared unfit and looked jaded last time also, our horrendous injury record was a worry
Anyone who can improve that is welcome even if he's an ex Nobber

[bartons baggage]

All the Bonlahs thirsty fut thinformation.

[Guitargeorge]

The new head coach will surely be in the background to this appointment of an assistant. That working relationship is even more crucial than a chief exec/FD relationship.

[Colburn_Claret]

It ties in to what I've read about Pace wanting to get a team of coaches that are independent from the head coach. Obviously this only works if we can get someone who will agree to be head coach and work with the clubs staff.
With us only having managers, i am not 100% sure how it works. Does a head coach get to bring in staff? You
couldn't imagine any of the names in the betting not bringing any staff in with them.

It smacks of American Football and the specials teams coaches, and defensive coaches etc.
Not sure if it will work in our game but it will be interesting.
I think the club have had their fingers burnt with Kompanys departure, and would like to ensure that the eggs aren't all in one basket going forward. Which does make sense if we can find a good manager who is happy with that set up

[Burtonwoodclaret]

I worked closely with a top Rugby League club for a few years and was privileged to watch training attend pre match and post match videos etc. The performance assistant was concerned with measuring elements of strength, fitness during training and games . She was a sports scientist whose advisory role was independent of match tactics team selection individual roles. She was able to measure things like yards run tackles made . Etc. I would think employing the best available would help prepare the squad whoever was head coach . If this is what has happened it can only help whoever comes in as manager/head coach. The same would apply to physios team doctor and other rolles in the club.. it could be that this is done by the owners so that the new person appointed as head coach/manager could hit the ground running.

[AlargeClaret]

As mentioned it’s surely highly likely the assistant /fitness coach is approved by new manager . However, elite level “ football fitness” is now so generic across world football , a decent non league fitness coach with a sports science degree could easily do the job .

It's almost unheard of in the modern game for teams to tire out due to not being as fit as the opposition . It’s the conditioning and post match recovery facilities and medical teams which give the big boys an edge . Hyperbaric Oxygen chambers , deep tissue masseurs, ice baths , nutritionists allied to the latest sports science data etc .

[123EasyasBFC]

Even the youl mawene appointment is a strange one because whether it’s a performance role or fitness role, surely that coach needs to fit in with the new manager or head coach that’s coming in.

Will mawene of been at Preston the same time Mike Jackson was there and that being a potential link?

[Hipper]

There could of course be a delay in the appointment of a manager/head coach and we need certain people in place when the players come back for their initial training.

[ClaretTony]

It might well work out, but we've seen for ourselves the differing levels between the top two divisions.

For this role?

[Goliath]

As mentioned it’s surely highly likely the assistant /fitness coach is approved by new manager . However, elite level “ football fitness” is now so generic across world football , a decent non league fitness coach with a sports science degree could easily do the job .

It's almost unheard of in the modern game for teams to tire out due to not being as fit as the opposition . It’s the conditioning and post match recovery facilities and medical teams which give the big boys an edge . Hyperbaric Oxygen chambers , deep tissue masseurs, ice baths , nutritionists allied to the latest sports science data etc .

It happened to us most weeks towards the end of last season. We were nowhere near fit enough which probably also explains the injurys

[123EasyasBFC]

Also henrik Jensen the apparent new assistant, has actually never worked with henrik rydstrom which I think makes the link of home to be pretty much dead.

Rydstrom was at kalmar most of his career but then when he left to take over at Malmo, Jensen then replaced him

[It Is What It Is]

Also henrik Jensen the apparent new assistant, has actually never worked with henrik rydstrom which I think makes the link of home to be pretty much dead.

Rydstrom was at kalmar most of his career but then when he left to take over at Malmo, Jensen then replaced him

So the only Scandinavian link I can make out is OGS.

[burnley007]

I have a feeling that today will be the day that things start to fall into place. By this time tomorrow, we will have a pretty good idea who the new manager is going to be.

[burnley007]

Also henrik Jensen the apparent new assistant, has actually never worked with henrik rydstrom which I think makes the link of home to be pretty much dead.

Rydstrom was at kalmar most of his career but then when he left to take over at Malmo, Jensen then replaced him

According to the Express;

Malmo boss Henrik Rydstrom, who previously worked with Jensen at Kalmar, has also entered the betting. The 48-year-old was previously linked with the Brighton vacancy.

[123EasyasBFC]

According to the Express;

Malmo boss Henrik Rydstrom, who previously worked with Jensen at Kalmar, has also entered the betting. The 48-year-old was previously linked with the Brighton vacancy.

Express got it wrong

Rydstrom joined Malmo from Kalmar on 1st December 2022
Jensen joined kalmar from midtjylland on 28th December 2022

Nothing to say they don’t know each other from being in the same leagues and could work together but there are no direct links to them both

[123EasyasBFC]

So the only Scandinavian link I can make out is OGS.

What’s the links to OGS mate for Jensen?