Euro 2024

[Roosterbooster]

Missed the game, how did Weghorst play? Saw he got an assist, any chances for him?

Hoping he has a great Euros and we sell him for €30m

His link up play was as good as anyone we've seen at this tournament

[gandhisflipflop]

A 2 man pivot against ******* Slovenia is peak Southgate.

[South West Claret.]

Trouble is with this channel hopping I always end up missing the goals and that was the case today

Exactly the here CC

[CrosspoolClarets]

They say you are better being lucky than good. Southgate has excelled at the former. Again, like in the other tournaments,

2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th favourites behind us now all in the opposite half of the draw if we win tonight.

[fatboy47]

35 minutes of sh1te so far.

[Rick_Muller]

35 minutes of sh1te so far.

I wouldn’t say it was that good

[ElectroClaret]

Been some really good football played in this tournament so far, exciting games and excellent entertainment.

And then England take the field....

[bfcjg]

Every game in this competition we've played like it's a pre season friendly. It's another hard watch.

[South West Claret.]

England have been rather cautious haven’t they

[Stayingup]

Perhaps not relevant - but may be - England has @ 28 times more people than Slovenia. Surley we should be pasting them if that is any kind of measure. Then again we do have equalising factors. One being the manager.

[HahaYeah]

They need to stop dithering and be more direct, get into some close quarters combat.

[boatshed bill]

Watching this I'm wondering why we need 2 CBs.

[HahaYeah]

Singing the Great Escape now, v Slovenia.

[jos]

Lee Dixon’s voice is the perfect fit for this match, dull and boring, I don’t know he may be a very nice chap but how he gets to work as a pundit with that tone is baffling, it’s just noise!

Anyway sorry back to the excitement!

[HahaYeah]

Bellingham play acting.

[boatshed bill]

1st thing Kane has done (apart from walking around) for most of this game

[Stonehouse]

Slovenian population 2.6 million.

[ClaretTony]

Another weary evening watching England

[HahaYeah]

Declan Rice trying to rouse more energy from his team mates.

[kentonclaret]

Perhaps not relevant - but may be - England has @ 28 times more people than Slovenia. Surley we should be pasting them if that is any kind of measure. Then again we do have equalising factors. One being the manager.

At the start of the Euros Paddy Power had Slovenia priced up at 500/1 England as the 3/1 favs. Just as well the stiffer opponents are in the other part of the draw as it stands.

[Raconteur]

On comes Josip Illicic.
What a player he was at Atalanta. Great to see him back after his troubles over the past few years.

[elwaclaret]

Absolute bobbins again, watch them Nick a goal, be delighted and tell the pundits they know nothing for criticising them so far.

[elwaclaret]

Palmer deserves dropping I’ve seen him pass it forward on at least three occasions since he came on. Gareth will be furious.

[Spijed]

At least England have Ivan Toney for the penalties...

[boatshed bill]

At least England have Ivan Toney for the penalties...

But he can only take one1

[bfcjg]

Kane needs dropping, he doesn't look fit.

[mdd2]

Why have I just wasted two hours of my life?

[Flixtonclaret1]

Kane needs dropping, he doesn't look fit.

and Bellingham!

Jude Bellingham vs. Slovenia:

69 passes
0 chances created
0 shots
1 dribble completed
16 times possession lost
0 tackles
2/9 duels won

[blatherwickstattoos]

We will never win a thing with this idiot in charge

[dsr]

To be fair, as we got towards the end of the second half, we sometimes had as many as two men in the box. (Not usually Kane, though.)

[Tw@]

Absolute horse excrement

[California Colner]

I don’t understand why England managers play players out of there natural positions!!
Drives me nuts
Example Trippier on the left, will not go down the the left when he gets the ball, first thing he does is stop play it back with his right foot‍
Trippier down the right would put great crosses in for Kane.
Does this country have no left sided defenders?
I just don’t get it

[Tribesmen]

We will never win a thing with this idiot in charge

You have only won one thing EVER and you were at home

[Dyched]

Perhaps not relevant - but may be - England has @ 28 times more people than Slovenia. Surley we should be pasting them if that is any kind of measure. Then again we do have equalising factors. One being the manager.

India and China have over a billion people. They’ve never won the world cup.

[JohnMcGreal]

A tournament too far for Southgate. He looks completely bust.

I think he should have gone after the last Euros, and was surprised the WC in Qatar didn't see him out the door.

The feel good factor has completely gone and all we're left with is a very limited tactician who looks out of his depth.

It's dreadful to watch.

[BigChaCha]

by Dyched...

India and China have over a billion people. They’ve never won the World Cup.

Yeah, let's compare countries where football is the main sport to countries like India and China, where football is probably their 10th played sport if you're lucky and where they have hardly any history in it and have never been interested in football in the past, certainly nowhere near the obsession with it in Europe and South America

[timshorts]

If it makes you feel any better, the Denmark v Serbia game was equally dull.

The group of death by boredom.

[Dyched]

Yeah, let's compare countries where football is the main sport to countries like India and China, where football is probably their 10th played sport if you're lucky and where they have hardly any history in it and have never been interested in football in the past, certainly nowhere near the obsession with it in Europe and South America

Whats funny with that? Skiing is bigger than football in Slovenia. Same rules didn’t apply then.

[Joe14]

Plain Ham sandwich
Ready salted crisps
Bottle of water

If Southgate was a meal deal

[mikeS]

Palmer and Gordon added some spark but the rest of the performance was almost as bad as the last one.
Has Southgate learned nothing from the Iceland defeat?

[Clovius Boofus]

Things Southgate never said, part 1: Go out and enjoy yourselves, lads.

[jlup1980]

It's difficult to understand what Southgate is watching. We were absolutely dreadful again.

Bellingham looks totally disinterested, all his bravado from the first game has disappeared and he looks as bored as the rest of us.
Kane doesn't look fit AND doesn't work in the current set up. He needs pace around him.
Gallagher was never the answer to the midfield issues and even Rice wasn't his usual self.
Trippier is still lost at left back, but he did remind Gareth of his strongest trait by putting the best ball into the box at the end of the first half.
TAA did nothing but lose the ball when he came on.
Only Foden and Palmer looked to make anything happen, and Gordon looked useful for the couple of minutes he was on the pitch.

I'd make a few changes for the next game... and you could argue Watkins should come in for Kane, but I feel Kane will come to life with Palmer, Foden and Gordon behind him.

Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Shaw
Mainoo Rice
Palmer Foden Gordon
Kane

[SalouClaret]

I can't wait for Southgate to name an unchanged team for the next match.

[Dark Cloud]

At least England have Ivan Toney for the penalties...

The problem is he's already bet on the next game going to penalties (allegedly!)

[Darthlaw]

I can't wait for Southgate to name an unchanged team for the next match.

TAA back into midfield, surely?

[South West Claret.]

The natives are not happy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 00y6x3j07o

[Darthlaw]

I think it's time to reduce the underperforming ego's and go for broke. Particularly I think Kane played like he's been in the Bavarian Brauhauses a bit too much. Bellingham is strangely lethargic and doesn't suit being shunted to the left to accommodate Foden in the middle as was tried time and time again last night. Finally I don't think Rice offered much in a game which was screaming for someone to break from midfield.

The back four look fairly secure and steady albeit the fullbacks continue to offer no forward threat, particularly in Trippier's case.

Arguably the best move involved 3 of the 4 subs used (albeit in the last moments) with a move involving Gordon, Mainoo and Palmer.

For me we go for it with the following:

Pickford.

Walker Stones Guehi Shaw* *Walker at LB and TAA at RB if Shaw still not fit

Mainoo Wharton

Saka Foden Gordon

Watkins

[superdimitri]

Bellingham needs to play off Kane, not hugging the left touchline. Foden needs to play on the right. Gordon on the left.

The England team is cursed with talent all in the same guises. Palmer, Foden and Saka are all left footed inside forwards that like to play on the right.
Trippier, Alexander-Arnold and Walker are all attacking right backs.

Playing a player on the left that cuts inside doesn't work well with Trippier who also wants to cut in and cross. You need either a left footed left back with a right footed winger in front or vice versa. The one time Foden did drift wide like a traditional winger it created space for Trippier to put in a great ball.

I don't really understand why we're so reluctant to get crosses in the box. There are so many great crossers in the team.

[Darthlaw]

Bellingham needs to play off Kane, not hugging the left touchline. Foden needs to play on the right. Gordon on the left.

The England team is cursed with talent all in the same guises. Palmer, Foden and Saka are all left footed inside forwards that like to play on the right.
Trippier, Alexander-Arnold and Walker are all attacking right backs.

Playing a player on the left that cuts inside doesn't work well with Trippier who also wants to cut in and cross. You need either a left footed left back with a right footed winger in front or vice versa. The one time Foden did drift wide like a traditional winger it created space for Trippier to put in a great ball.

I don't really understand why we're so reluctant to get crosses in the box. There are so many great crossers in the team.

I just don't think Kane warrants his place, currently. Bellingham, goal in the opening game aside, has faded badly too. I think the only way Bellingham should be playing is CM, in place of Rice, with Mainoo at the side of him.

[dsr]

I don't really understand why we're so reluctant to get crosses in the box. There are so many great crossers in the team.

There are few people in the box to aim for. Kane is usually out wide so we're relying on a midfielder to get in there, and most of them don't.

Southgate is far too fond of the idea that if you keep possession, the goals will come. In general you actually have to work for your goals, not sit back and wait for them.