Next manager

[kenyon6923]

Is RVN a short term appointment IF it happens ? will he be classed as the same class as Lampard, gerrard, rooney etc etc even a "fresh forwarding coach" like the leicester guy gets the chelsea job !!!!

Judging from this boards history most are expecting a VK style season coming up with apparently a much better team/squad so god knows what the expectations are ? So if he flops this season he probably gets potted ? if we go up then unless we find vast fortunes to become a 14th to 18th team we yo yo - but still at that VK was a specular flop big time and still gets the Bayern job !!!!!!! so he probably gets a "bigger" job.

[123EasyasBFC]

Enzo Maresca left City as Pep’s assistant to take over at Leicester. Kieran McKenna left United’s coaching team to take over at League One Ipswich. I don’t think it’s a very tough choice personally, we’ve got a very exciting team. But then it comes down to whether he has managerial ambitions or is happy just coaching.

I do agree but the fact he was a player at United there will always be the sentiment attached won’t there.

The issue if the above is true is how long we wait before deciding ourselves right we have to move on now

[Guller Bull]

Can't say I would be gutted with RVN as I know nothing about his managerial style but would prefer Mr Corberan or someone with good experience. Micahel Duff has more relevant experience than RVN as far as I can see but granted is not the big name pull that seems to be in vogue.

[wilks_bfc]

Could be a proper melt down day on this thread today for some. Fixtures are out and HAVEN'T EVEN GOT A MANAGER IN PLACE - THE CLUB IS A SHAMBLES etc etc ad nauseam

Don’t forget we also still don’t know what kit we will be wearing for the opening game of the season

[123EasyasBFC]

Can't say I would be gutted with RVN as I know nothing about his managerial style but would prefer Mr Corberan or someone with good experience. Micahel Duff has more relevant experience than RVN as far as I can see but granted is not the big name pull that seems to be in vogue.

Based on experience if we aren’t going down the name route then corberan or rosenior would be the best options as they know the league

[Rick_Muller]

Don’t forget we also still don’t know what kit we will be wearing for the opening game of the season

Heaven forbid they announce an increase in Twix prices

[billyhamilton82]

I haven't looked at this for a while and reading between the lines apart from RVN and Bellamy is it possible that one of the candidates is one of the national team managers still in the competition?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned and dismissed but it's almost impossible to read the thread never mind interpret it.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Fabregas? Working at the euros as a pundit, or at least he was

[burnley007]

Fabregas? Working at the euros as a pundit, or at least he was

He's my dream appointment, but I can't see it happening unfortunately.
I noticed yesterday that they had made a new signing at Como, not sure how significant that is though.

Cesc or Ruud would be exciting for the new season.

[Juan Tanamera]

If you believe that bookmakers are taking bets of £1000+ from punters on these types of novelty markets it is obviously you who hasn’t a clue how bookies operate. The reason that Tory MP’s were only winning modest amounts on the date of the next General Election is because bet limits are in place. It only takes a modest amount to affect these markets because only small stakes are allowed.
Are the markets probably a more accurate guide than a lot of the stuff posted on this thread then probably yes.

I think you need to read Sir Bob's post all over again.

[wilks_bfc]

I haven't looked at this for a while and reading between the lines apart from RVN and Bellamy is it possible that one of the candidates is one of the national team managers still in the competition?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned and dismissed but it's almost impossible to read the thread never mind interpret it.

Or somebody working for one of the broadcasters doing comms or punditry

[Murger]

Daily mirror has it between Parker and Bellamy.

[Murger]

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Edit to the above post

When did we rule out Corberan?

[Tresor'sTracksuit]

We might not have. Mirror is just guessing like most of the media.

[KRBFC]

Give it Bellamy

[RVclaret]

Daily mirror has it between Parker and Bellamy.

The story does not even say this. It says they are two that are still in contention.

[agreenwood]

The story does not even say this. It says they are two that are still in contention.

I’m on me way round with the wet wipes again.

[Shaggy]

Give it Bellamy

Why? He’s never been a manager.We should be aiming a lot higher than Bellamy.

[eastcoastclaret]

Give it Bellamy

If we give it to Bellamy, I'd love to know what criteria they have based that judgement on.

[HahaYeah]

If it's between Bellamy and Parker then Bellamy all day long.

[KRBFC]

Why? He’s never been a manager.We should be aiming a lot higher than Bellamy.

I don’t see many other inspiring candidates, I’d rather we took a gamble on another rookie than give the likes of Robins, Rosenior or Corberan a job. Don’t get me wrong, those 3 have done decent jobs but nothing special, the very good managers tend to get promotion from the Championship without needing to spunk a fortune.

I also don’t buy this narrative that Corberan has been working with peanuts when they’re paying the likes of Jed Wallace £30,000 a week. Same with Robins who spent £15m+ on two forwards and didn’t even make the playoffs.

[Wokingclaret]

I don’t see many other inspiring candidates, I’d rather we took a gamble on another rookie than give the likes of Robins, Rosenior or Corberan a job. Don’t get me wrong, those 3 have done decent jobs but nothing special, the very good managers tend to get promotion from the Championship without needing to spunk a fortune.

I also don’t buy this narrative that Corberan has been working with peanuts when they’re paying the likes of Jed Wallace £30,000 a week. Same with Robins who spent £15m+ on two forwards and didn’t even make the playoffs.

We can't afford a gamble, we did that last season

[ClaretInLeeds]

If it's between Bellamy and Parker then Bellamy all day long.

I now know where your username comes from. It's because every time you say something to someone, they go "Haha, yeah....... "

[HahaYeah]

I now know where your username comes from. It's because every time you say something to someone, they go "Haha, yeah....... "

Good one.

[Guller Bull]

If it's between Bellamy and Parker then Bellamy all day long.

If it's between them two then I would be massively disappointed but would edge towards Parker as he has at least a track record in getting a club promoted.

[NewClaret]

If the choice is Bellamy or Parker, Bellamy please.

I don’t see any reason we can’t give him a chance. If he starts poorly we can reevaluate.

[RVclaret]

If the choice is Bellamy or Parker, Bellamy please.

I don’t see any reason we can’t give him a chance. If he starts poorly we can reevaluate.

Would be Bellamy for me too. Jensen assisting but has managerial experience & possession based philosophy. I think we’d get good continuity of playing style from VK, which is something I’m looking for.

[Juan Tanamera]

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Edit to the above post

When did we rule out Corberan?

Didn't the Mirror suggest it was RVN the other day, or are they taking another stab in the dark?

[Hedontplayforyou]

Where does it say in that article that it’s down to these as final two?

[RVclaret]

Where does it say in that article that it’s down to these as final two?

It doesn’t.

[Rick_Muller]

I find it astounding that some people assume the daily rags are accurate with info about our next manager yet are lying about other issues in society. The way some people pick and choose who and what to believe. The truth is, no one knows what’s happening apart from a few select people, and the news reports are from “educated” guesswork - and I use educated loosely.

[burnley007]

I find it astounding that some people assume the daily rags are accurate with info about our next manager yet are lying about other issues in society. The way some people pick and choose who and what to believe. The truth is, no one knows what’s happening apart from a few select people, and the news reports are from “educated” guesswork - and I use educated loosely.

Absolutely correct. I wouldn't trust the date on most daily newspapers.

[123EasyasBFC]

The amount of people saying ‘give it Bellamy’ is scary

[Murger]

The amount of people saying ‘give it Bellamy’ is scary

Totally agree. Its mind boggling.

[Steddyman]

Give it Bellamy

Give it the kit man. He'll have watched a few matches and heard some speeches from VK last season.

[Mattster]

Between Parker and Bellamy I'd go for Bellamy. Parker's football is a carbon copy of Southgate's, yes he'll get results in the Championship but purely due to having better players - he won't get them to perform to their full ability, it will be a close run thing - he's only just pulled off both his promotions, the luck could easily run out - and it'll be horrifically dull regardless.

I'll take the possibilities of Bellamy over the known quantity of Parker.

[dougcollins]

Give it the kit man. He'll have watched a few matches and heard some speeches from VK last season.

Set piece coach? He was actually sat in the dugout and may have absorbed knowledge by osmosis.

[123EasyasBFC]

We clearly don’t want either Bellamy or Parker because we could easily of appointed both of them by now

[NewClaret]

Would be Bellamy for me too. Jensen assisting but has managerial experience & possession based philosophy. I think we’d get good continuity of playing style from VK, which is something I’m looking for.

Totally agree RV.

Especially about the playing style, which in my view it’s very important we keep or evolve slowly. It mightn’t have worked in the Premier League but it did in the Championship so should at least start there.

I’d think this whoever the new manager was. Last thing we need is to abandon a playing style that the squad has been shaped around. Although if Bellamy gets it I’d like to see him tweak some elements and be more aggressive/attacking in our wing play, especially in the Championship with the players we have.

[kentonclaret]

The amount of people saying ‘give it Bellamy’ is scary

The first 2/3 pages of this thread has a wish list mainly comprised of Moyes, Cooper and Potter but now the harsh reality has sunk in as posters face the real prospect of a season of Championship football under Bellamy’s guidance. Top managers are seemingly out of reach and Bellamy is in situ (assuming he doesn’t prefer the Wales job if offered).

[JohnMac]

Give it the kit man. He'll have watched a few matches and heard some speeches from VK last season.

It worked at AFC Richmond

[Vegas Claret]

with the way the club is run neither Bellamy or Parker make any sense.

[boyyanno]

I'm amazed anyone would go near Bellamy for the managers position.

Someone who had to leave his last club due to bullying issues and tried to break a teammates leg with a golf club when a player.

He's the only candidate I would struggle to support.

[RVclaret]

We clearly don’t want either Bellamy or Parker because we could easily of appointed both of them by now

Depends on the process? If the process is interviewing all candidates twice (or more) then perhaps that only just concluded. If we wanted RVN as first choice (as speculation points towards) then we couldn’t have ‘easily appointed both by now’, as we were trying for someone else.

[bumba]

The amount of people saying ‘give it Bellamy’ is scary

We're in for a scary season then

[RVclaret]

I'm amazed anyone would go near Bellamy for the managers position.

Someone who had to leave his last club due to bullying issues and tried to break a teammates leg with a golf club when a player.

He's the only candidate I would struggle to support.

By all accounts he’s been quite well regarded as a coach for Kompany and sounds like he’s liked by players at the club. Unless those issues have continued in his time here (unlikely otherwise surely he’d be out the door and not considered for manager) then I’m not sure I hold stuff against him? If after this exhaustive process he’s viewed as the best man for the job then he’s beat a fair list of sound candidates to the role…

[South West Claret.]

I'm amazed anyone would go near Bellamy for the managers position.

Someone who had to leave his last club due to bullying issues and tried to break a teammates leg with a golf club when a player.

He's the only candidate I would struggle to support.

Blimey I didn’t know that

[NewClaret]

I'm amazed anyone would go near Bellamy for the managers position.

Someone who had to leave his last club due to bullying issues and tried to break a teammates leg with a golf club when a player.

He's the only candidate I would struggle to support.

You are talking about his past character here though.

I’m pretty sure in the last two years we’ll have had chance to judge what his current character is like.

[Silkyskills1]

If the choice is Bellamy or Parker, Bellamy please.

I don’t see any reason we can’t give him a chance. If he starts poorly we can reevaluate.

Incredible statements. Don't know which one to start with but the thought and image of 'reevaluate' after a poor start is haunting me and won't go away.

[boyyanno]

By all accounts he’s been quite well regarded as a coach for Kompany and sounds like he’s liked by players at the club. Unless those issues have continued in his time here (unlikely otherwise surely he’d be out the door and not considered for manager) then I’m not sure I hold stuff against him? If after this exhaustive process he’s viewed as the best man for the job then he’s beat a fair list of sound candidates to the role…

That's your opinion but I don't think it's based on real world experience.

As someone who has hired managers (internally and externally) I can honestly say that if I asked someone why they had left their previous management position, and they responded- Bullying allegations and it was investigated and found that I had created a toxic culture within my team then the interview would be an extremely short one. There is a big difference between being an assistant and having all the responsibility.

The golf club incident just shows what kind of character he is. All relevant in my opinion.

I also know that some people within the club don't like him, I'm sure some also do, but realistically being liked is pretty irrelevant as it's not a requirement for the position.