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Re: Next manager

Post by claretskeith » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:27 pm

Longsider wrote:
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Think you might be confusing me with someone else Keith. I don't have contacts, other than my lenses from spec savers. However, I'll take the left lense out, go into a transcendental state and predict.......... the Danish lad.
Haha! Sorry pal yeah might have the wrong person.

Taking the left lense out, ouch, that makes a superb 3D garden party.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Foshiznik » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:33 pm

brexit wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:18 pm
I agree, just making the point that Southgate and Dyches styles seem to be similar. And to be fair, both manage to get results. So from our next manager, do we want pragmatic, dull but ultimately successful football or entertaining football that may get us relegated?
Neither. A balance of the two would be desirable to most I suspect.

It’s not one or the other. You can have one of the many in between.

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Re: Next manager

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:47 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:11 pm
You really posted this , wow
Why?

You just said you wouldn’t have Bellamy due to his lack of experience.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:53 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:11 pm
You really posted this , wow
Wasn't it Maresca's first managerial job ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by jos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:57 pm

T minus 9

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:04 am

I would say that the one name that we all agree that we don't want is Scott Parker.
So why is he favourite now? Ffs
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Re: Next manager

Post by tally » Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:15 am

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:04 am
I would say that the one name that we all agree that we don't want is Scott Parker.
So why is he favourite now? Ffs
Somebody dropped a couple of bob on him

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:18 am

Is it plausible that kjulmand was never actually in the running and some people just said ‘he’s a name I was told’ just to keep up the in the know act up?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:59 am

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:04 am
I would say that the one name that we all agree that we don't want is Scott Parker.
So why is he favourite now? Ffs
yet he's the one with two promotions out of the league we are about to play in........
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:59 am
yet he's the one with two promotions out of the league we are about to play in........
So has Owen Coyle. It doesn't necessarily mean he's the best option.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:04 am

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:02 am
So has Owen Coyle. It doesn't necessarily mean he's the best option.
Who did Owen coyle get his second championship promotion with?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:17 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:53 pm
Wasn't it Maresca's first managerial job ?
Bellamy isn’t Maresca is he , two different people, do I really need to explain this .

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Re: Next manager

Post by LongsideClaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:36 am

Parker or Bellamy are the final two. Danish manager is completely media/betting market driven. No contact from him or the club at all.

Suspect we announce a manager early this week and if it’s Parker I would expect Bellamy to go for the Wales job as he wants to be a number 1.

Left back transfer ready to sign off as well once new manager is in place. Not a free transfer.

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:44 am

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:36 am
Parker or Bellamy are the final two. Danish manager is completely media/betting market driven. No contact from him or the club at all.

Suspect we announce a manager early this week and if it’s Parker I would expect Bellamy to go for the Wales job as he wants to be a number 1.

Left back transfer ready to sign off as well once new manager is in place. Not a free transfer.
*sigh*

Please be Bellamy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:44 am

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:36 am
Parker or Bellamy are the final two. Danish manager is completely media/betting market driven. No contact from him or the club at all.

Suspect we announce a manager early this week and if it’s Parker I would expect Bellamy to go for the Wales job as he wants to be a number 1.

Left back transfer ready to sign off as well once new manager is in place. Not a free transfer.
If this is true there is a good few people on this thread he will stay quiet when acting like they have info in the future, longsideClaret has been pretty accurate with everything they have ever posted on here

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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:47 am

Well if that’s the case then it will be a case of “ok let’s give him a chance and back him regardless” Not going to be a popular outcome but he does have experience.

Still not convinced though that it will be Parker or Bellamy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:48 am

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:36 am
Parker or Bellamy are the final two. Danish manager is completely media/betting market driven. No contact from him or the club at all.

Suspect we announce a manager early this week and if it’s Parker I would expect Bellamy to go for the Wales job as he wants to be a number 1.

Left back transfer ready to sign off as well once new manager is in place. Not a free transfer.
Very underwhelming if true:(

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretspice » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:50 am

Really not sure I understand the hostility towards Parker. I get that he's not an exciting pick, and that he's not set the world alight when he's been in the Premier League (or at Bruges). I'm not sure he'd be my first choice. But the bloke has had 2 seasons in the Championship and he has 2 promotions. They might both be promotions of favourites (although I'm not absolutely sure that is true of Bournemouth) but they're teams who have done what we're trying to do this season. He would seem a much safer pair of hands than Bellamy.
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:50 am

Parker would be starting off in a bad place.
Fans generally don't want him.

Why spend over a month choosing Scott f##king Parker??

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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:51 am

Other than a poor Premier League season and post match interview style what are the other reasons for opposition to Parker ? He’s got 2 unfashionable teams out of The Championship.
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:51 am
Other than a poor Premier League season and post match interview style what are the other reasons for opposition to Parker ? He’s got 2 unfashionable teams out of The Championship.
Unfashionable is a funny way of saying ‘by far the best teams and largest playing budgets’. And they both just about scraped up. I’ve had enough of Southgate’s football to not want to see it all next season too.

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Re: Next manager

Post by JohnMcGreal » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 am

We need to win promotion either this season or next.

Hiring a manager with a proven track record of doing that, twice, is a sensible appointment.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 am

If true, I’d take Parker over Bellamy all day long.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:54 am

Between Parker and Bellamy, how anyone would choice Bellamy is frightening.

Parker is an actual manager with promotions on his cv

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:54 am

Taking a month to hire Scott Parker or Craig Bellamy is comedy gold in fairness.
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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:55 am

I think we'll all know who our next manager will be by this coming Friday tea time

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Re: Next manager

Post by Gp8419 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:56 am

I think it’s fair to say nobody as any inside info on these American owners.Judging by the amount of favourites the bookmakers are having must be 15/20 different favs now! Only one that seems might of been true was RVN but was he really that close.

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:56 am

claretspice wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:50 am
Really not sure I understand the hostility towards Parker. I get that he's not an exciting pick, and that he's not set the world alight when he's been in the Premier League (or at Bruges). I'm not sure he'd be my first choice. But the bloke has had 2 seasons in the Championship and he has 2 promotions. They might both be promotions of favourites (although I'm not absolutely sure that is true of Bournemouth) but they're teams who have done what we're trying to do this season. He would seem a much safer pair of hands than Bellamy.
Would absolutely agree if we are down to just these two. Maybe not everyone's choice, and certainly not my first choice but Parker has been there and done it, and he will be mentally stronger when it gets tough than Bellamy.Be interesting to see the backroom structure if Parker is the man. Cant see him wanting to acquire all three, ie Bellamy, Jackson and Jensen. Oh and not forgetting the highly rated set piece coach

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Re: Next manager

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:59 am

Whatever you think of Parker as a person, or of his style of play - ask yourself do you think he would be likely to get this squad of players promoted? That is the only question we need to be confident of answering the affirmative to for any prospective manager, such is the way ALK have financed the club.

One thing is for certain - we cannot wait much longer for a manager with the sheer amount of work that squad needs. We are somehow short in two key positions (left back and striker) and have about 15 players we could/should be shedding too.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Commy » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:04 am

Wasn't Bellamy's fall out with Kompany rumoured to be due to tactics/team formation? If that is the case, he might be better than people think. He knows the players and would only have to tweak the system. I would rather start the season with him and see how he goes than have Parker, who would probably change everything.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ervi34 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:07 am

Five weeks of waiting just to appoint someone we could have got a month ago. Very underwhelming if it's really between these two.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:09 am

Out of that lot, I'd go for Solskjaer.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:12 am

Anyway, we'll know when we know. I'm more concerned about time ticking away, given the level of work we have to do regarding offloading and incoming.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:14 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:10 am
Surprised that you are not outraged by another person supposedly” in the know” What’s the difference with this one?
There’s a difference between people saying what they have heard or speculating what they have heard to posters putting cryptic messages and almost taking pleasure at they think they know what’s going on.

If you look through the way longside or CT post information they hear to the way suntan does, there’s an easy difference. It’s pretty simple

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:15 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:59 am
We are somehow short in two key positions (left back and striker) and have about 15 players we could/should be shedding too.
I wouldn't call the striker position at the club short, Players at the club currently who could fill the Forward roll in the championship

Michael Obafemi
Jay Rodriguez
Lyle Foster
Zeki Amdouni
Luca Koleosho
Wout Weghorst

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:18 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:10 am
Looks like your source gave you some duff info here CT
Not really, things change like RVN, he might of been approached but turned us down, things happen all the time

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:20 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:18 am
Not really, things change like RVN, he might of been approached but turned us down, things happen all the time
It could also of been absolutely duff information regarding hjulmand, there’s nothing wrong with information being wrong especially when you aren’t promoting that you know what’s going on. All CT has done is posted what he had been told

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Re: Next manager

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:22 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:15 am
I wouldn't call the striker position at the club short, Players at the club currently who could fill the Forward roll in the championship

Michael Obafemi
Jay Rodriguez
Lyle Foster
Zeki Amdouni
Luca Koleosho
Wout Weghorst
Volume yes, but really?

Obafemi - Scored two in 14 on loan at Millwall
Rodriguez - 35 in a few days time and whilst still a decent sub option, unlikely to be more than that these days
Foster - Excellent up until about Christmas, absolutely terrible after that and always going to be a question mark over his reliability due to his documented mental health issues.
Amdouni - I still expect him to go, but if not, yes - he should be very good in this division. He will need to work harder though.
Koleosho - A winger, coming back from an ACL, we have no clue what goalscoring qualities he has really. He is an exciting player and you'd hope he will tear it up from that side.
Weghorst - Come on, really! He will be long gone by the season kicking off.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:28 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:14 am
There’s a difference between people saying what they have heard or speculating what they have heard to posters putting cryptic messages and almost taking pleasure at they think they know what’s going on.

If you look through the way longside or CT post information they hear to the way suntan does, there’s an easy difference. It’s pretty simple
Looking at what Longside has just said, it is very much phrased as fact and in the know. It might be right for all I know, just can’t see what the difference is. Not so simple as far as I can see? CT et Al get their information second hand from a.n other depending on contacts and like everyone sometimes it’s wrong. Just interested to know why you are so invested in some peoples information and not others?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:33 am

Easy quip,poor answer.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:34 am

What a terrible shame that the final two are Parker and Bellamy after a month’s long search, assuming that LC’s info is correct.

I understand why some don’t want Parker, I don’t particularly, but I find the potential appointment of Bellamy to be absolutely bloody frightening.

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Re: Next manager

Post by South West Claret. » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:37 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:34 am
What a terrible shame that the final two are Parker and Bellamy after a month’s long search, assuming that LC’s info is correct.

I understand why some don’t want Parker, I don’t particularly, but I find the potential appointment of Bellamy to be absolutely bloody frightening.
Yes I agree although my choice would still be Robins from Coventry.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:40 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:22 am
Volume yes, but really?

Obafemi - Scored two in 14 on loan at Millwall
Rodriguez - 35 in a few days time and whilst still a decent sub option, unlikely to be more than that these days
Foster - Excellent up until about Christmas, absolutely terrible after that and always going to be a question mark over his reliability due to his documented mental health issues.
Amdouni - I still expect him to go, but if not, yes - he should be very good in this division. He will need to work harder though.
Koleosho - A winger, coming back from an ACL, we have no clue what goalscoring qualities he has really. He is an exciting player and you'd hope he will tear it up from that side.
Weghorst - Come on, really! He will be long gone by the season kicking off.
We walked the championship with Barnes 6 goals and Rodriguez 10 goal's you don't necessarily need a 20 a season striker

Weghorst CURRENTLY at the club that's why I put him
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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:40 am

I'm assuming that we are down to Parker and Bellamy because another target went elsewhere.

Glad there's nothing in this Kasper chap rumour.

Wonder what Corberan will do?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:40 am

I wonder what the story is with Lampard and Rosenior. I’d take either of those two over Parker and Bellamy every day of the week.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:43 am

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Re: Next manager

Post by ervi34 » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:43 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:40 am
We walked the championship with Barnes 6 goals and Rodriguez 10 goal's you don't necessarily need a 20 a season striker

Weghorst CURRENTLY at the club that's why I put him
But we had an 18 goal winger that time.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:44 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:40 am
I wonder what the story is with Lampard and Rosenior. I’d take either of those two over Parker and Bellamy every day of the week.
Rosenior maybe but what makes you want Lampard over Parker?

I don’t want Parker either but Parker is a much better option than Lampard

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:45 am

My money would still be on OGS with Phelan. We know he has been interviewed twice because actual journalists with connections to the club have told us such.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:48 am

ervi34 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:43 am
But we had an 18 goal winger that time.
17 goals

And within the wingers we have at the club they'll be one not far behind that total come the end of the season, Tella got a lot of hatricks in those games and scored in very games during the season, someone could easily score more regularly and hit 16/17 from out wide

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