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Re: Next manager

Post by shulgin » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:30 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:04 pm

I seem to recall there was great interest/fear in VK's half time team talk - so to carry on the spirit of things that we like to see leading up to the potential appointment - here is a half time team talk whilst managing Bournemouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNHIQxN ... mierLeague
This sounds like it could by a a Loyle Carner song. Just needs some beats behind it.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brazilianclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:30 pm

Pretty good interview here that gives a bit more insight into him as a person and manager

https://youtu.be/OtB9LAIoK7Y?si=YBr_vjQSAZWFoi9t

Have my doubts and am underwhelmed but hopefully he can prove the doubters wrong

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Re: Next manager

Post by dcunningham27 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:31 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:10 pm
Hahaha tbf I was told that Lampard was going to training ground the Monday after soccer aid to have his pictures done and interviews before he went to the euros.

Also that Taylor was nailed on for Everton.

Lucky I didn’t lump on Lampard, but I did fall for the bo Hendrikson link and stuck a tenner on him at 100/1
Haha fair play mate all part of the ups and downs of supporting this club eh 😂
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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:31 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:57 pm
Certainly wouldn’t have been my choice and I’m a little surprised that we’ve not opted for more of a name, considering the apparent approach of ALK.

At least we have a manager with a track record of getting teams promoted from the Championship.

Like him or not, enjoy his football or not, we have to give him a fair crack of the whip. He’s inherited a squad with potential, let’s just hope he can do what Kompany failed to do last season - turn them into a team.
I don't think it will be Parker but if it is maybe, he is the only one who wants the job?

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Re: Next manager

Post by RHansburyEsq » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:31 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:18 pm
Why?

That's just stupid. Like we should have no opinion on anything?? Parker is a disastrous choice, why should we support him?
Should we support Weghorst too?
I appreciate he doesn’t get the pulse racing, but I still don’t get the passion against him? Those against it are absolutely entitled to their opinion (although not supporting a new manager seems fairly out there :D ), but why is it so disastrous? Am I missing something which his record doesn’t show?

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:32 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:24 pm
I wasn’t really making a suggestion. Just pointing out they played together at West Ham. Although it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility that Bellamy stays on if Parker is given the job.
I’d feel a bit more comfortable if that were the case.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Shaggy » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:32 pm

If it is to be Parker then he is most certainly not first choice with the amount of time it’s taken to appoint.

He does have 2 promotions from this league but it would be a very underwhelming appointment.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:32 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:16 pm
Great record.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ott-parker

9-0.

Yes, they lost 9-0.

Seems like a great manager.
Parker Out
Arsene Wenger conceded 8 whilst managing Arsenal against United

Jurgen Klopp conceded 7 whilst managing Liverpool against Villa.

**** happens. Get a grip lad.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:33 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:01 pm
We’re overlooking the fact that Parker will be working with Henrik Jensen, which may help to evolve his style of play.

And Parker will also have a massive point to prove. He’s bombed in the Prem and also in Belgium. He may not have too many chances to manage in a top league again.

Not my first choice, but let’s get behind him.
According to you he's 'bombed' twice but you are still expecting him to be successful. Imagine that on your CV or application form?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:33 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:19 pm
We have 'fans' wanting him out before he's even in. I've not even had that with the wife.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:34 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:18 pm
Why?

That's just stupid. Like we should have no opinion on anything?? Parker is a disastrous choice, why should we support him?
Should we support Weghorst too?
My opinion is that we could make a better appointment than Parker, but the importance of this season is huge and getting on the back of somebody before he has even begun work is hardly going to help pull the club we support in the right direction is it

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Re: Next manager

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:34 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:24 pm
I wasn’t really making a suggestion. Just pointing out they played together at West Ham. Although it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility that Bellamy stays on if Parker is given the job.
That was my thinking (albeit via the Newcastle connection)

I don’t know who was on Parker’s staff and if they were the same people at Bournemouth & Fulham but having CB stay on who knows the players we have won’t be a bad thing

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Re: Next manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Paddy1882 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:35 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:29 pm
What will he have learned from getting beat most weeks? He might have learned to ask for a coffee or beer in their language but absolutely nothing that is going to be of benefit to us, short term.or long term. A incredibly naive mistake of the worst kind.
People learn more from mistakes than success. Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world have just appointed a manager who got tonked most weeks for a full season, so they clearly think that too…..
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Re: Next manager

Post by claretskeith » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:36 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:27 pm
That's an absolute rascal of a cardigan he was wearing in the 9-0 defeat to Liverpool.

I wonder what sort of cardigan he might wear for Luton away. Hopefully a bit more of a butch looking one. Maybe a cable knit with a shawl collar or something.
If he has any sense he will have a winner wardrobe. If he gets beat 9-0, the cardigan never see the light of day again. If he wins, it gets put into 'Winner Wardrobe'. This is then recycled until we win 46 out of 46.

Come on, it's not difficult.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:37 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:35 pm
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That’s photoshopped.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Enola Gay » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:37 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:23 pm
This is the Brian Laws moment for the younger generation.
As underwhelming an appointment as it would be, it's nowhere near this.

Parker at least has had some success at this level. Laws had just been potted from this level for setting Sheffield Wednesday on the way to League One.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:37 pm

Goliath wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:43 pm
I've seen them. It's pr. It's usually low temp shooting drills.
Not high intensity fitness stuff. If we want to play a high pressing game they need to be extremely fit.
Conversation has somewhat moved on since this afternoon but this should hopefully appease you. Esteve describes this weeks training as intense and high standard:

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... pre-season

I love Esteve, by the way. Reading that has cheered me up. Everything you want to hear from a player.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Clovius Boofus » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:38 pm

To say I'm underwhelmed would be an understatement.

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Re: Next manager

Post by roperclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:39 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:18 pm
Why?

That's just stupid. Like we should have no opinion on anything?? Parker is a disastrous choice, why should we support him?
Should we support Weghorst too?
How can you have an opinion until he’s done the job? It’s fair to have an opinion on Wout, we watched him play for Burnley

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Re: Next manager

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:40 pm

Parker is a bit underwhelming but it definitely could be a lot worse. Felt the same way when we appointed Dyche.

He has great experience at getting Championship teams promoted. My main concern is that he always seems to **** the bed about 18 months after taking a job (less at Brugge).

Will back the new manager whoever it is.

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Re: Next manager

Post by summitclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:40 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:58 pm
Great player
What's that got to do with anything?
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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm

Not my first choice but I need to keep reminding myself, that we are, to quote a famous manager, Burnley and not Barcelona. If it is Parker I hope he can build up a great understanding and respect with our players prior to the start of the season. Its something we appear to have lacked last season in the PL. I will be happy if he gets the best out of the team-at least we hopefully lose the stubbornes and poor team selections and substitutions that we constantly witnessed. If it is Parker I will be relieved we have not appointed Rosenior, Lampard, Pardew, Bruce, Pardew or Bellamy. The least he deserves is our initial backing and support,

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Re: Next manager

Post by TPClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm

Don’t get the negativity. He’s the only candidate who’s actually got two promotions from this league. Who did people seriously want.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Commy » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm

I hope he has been told how many matches we have lost in the past 3 seasons in the league. We can't have someone coming in and ruining that :) .
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Re: Next manager

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:42 pm
He’s a Jon Richardson impersonator in his spare time.
Steady on! I'm not a big fan of Parker but comparing anyone with that dullard Richardson is a bit much even for this forum!! :D :D

I think a cardboard box is a decent impersonation of Richardson.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Enola Gay » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:36 pm
Luckily this board isn’t representative of most of the fans that go to games.
ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:38 pm
I’ve been called out several times for saying that…..
This.

From personal experience the stuff that causes most bedwetting on here barely even gets mentioned out there in the real world, Burnley FC-related or not.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Claretitus » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:46 pm

If it is Parker, there’s obviously nothing that us fans can do about it. Like it or not, we don’t choose the manager. So what do we do? We get behind him and the players of course. What’s the alternative? Vote with your feet and don’t attend ? What would that achieve?
Ask yourself these same questions . Give em all a chance and see what happens.
Honestly, I’m underwhelmed myself. 6 weeks to appoint a guy who was unemployed? He wouldn’t have been in my first 10 picks, but has obviously shown those that were carrying out the process of choosing our new manager, that he’s the one.
Do I think he’s gonna get us promoted this season? No I don’t. But I hope he can prove me wrong. UTC.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:46 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:35 pm
People learn more from mistakes than success. Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world have just appointed a manager who got tonked most weeks for a full season, so they clearly think that too…..
Remember that failure is an event, not a person.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:47 pm

TPClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm
Who did people seriously want.
Exactly, the only other realistic candidates who I thought would do decent jobs were Corberan and OGS, but you can make a strong argument for Parker over both of them.

Edit - Robins added to the above.

The Danish manager might be good, but he's never managed a game in England so it would be a huge gamble and doesn't even look like he wanted the job.
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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:03 pm
I don’t think so unless you now have the right to speak for everyone else.
Works for you

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Re: Next manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:51 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:35 pm
People learn more from mistakes than success. Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world have just appointed a manager who got tonked most weeks for a full season, so they clearly think that too…..
Sorry, I don't get the point you are making. Are you sure there is more to be learned from losing than from winning?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:52 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm
This.

From personal experience the stuff that causes most bedwetting on here barely even gets mentioned out there in the real world, Burnley FC-related or not.
True enough. Although I'm sorry to say, use of the bedwetting terminology is also something I'm convinced is limited to the UTC perennials. :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Bosscat » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:54 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:37 pm
That’s photoshopped.
😲 but it looks so real 🤣

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Re: Next manager

Post by dermotdermot » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:55 pm

Definitely a done deal, folks. Sky bet has closed the betting.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:59 pm

I'm extremely underwhelmed and a little worried.

This smacks of the last turkey in the shop gamble by Pace. It doesn't tie in with the perceived image of a manager/head coach that ALK seem to desire. He's been sacked from all his jobs with the last one being after he lead a top Belgium club to 2 wins in 12 games.

The biggest one.....Why the hell has it taken so long to come up with Parker?

An element of desperation by Alan Pace here I think no matter what he or anyone else says.

I don't think he will last the season.

Unexciting times.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:00 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:18 pm
Why?

That's just stupid. Like we should have no opinion on anything?? Parker is a disastrous choice, why should we support him?
Should we support Weghorst too?
Strange example using Weghorst as an example as he has been at the club, stunk the place out for 6 months then made out like he was too big for the club. But if he came back and performed I would back him.

Parker hasn’t even had a chance yet, as a Burnley fan why would you not back a new manager.

Couldn’t stand Joey Barton for years, soon as he put on a Burnley shirt I backed him

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretskeith » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:00 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:59 pm
I'm extremely underwhelmed and a little worried.
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:02 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:29 pm
What will he have learned from getting beat most weeks? He might have learned to ask for a coffee or beer in their language but absolutely nothing that is going to be of benefit to us, short term.or long term. A incredibly naive mistake of the worst kind.
remember when Eddie relegated Bournemouth then went away for a rethink.........

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:04 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:59 pm
I'm extremely underwhelmed and a little worried.

This smacks of the last turkey in the shop gamble by Pace. It doesn't tie in with the perceived image of a manager/head coach that ALK seem to desire. He's been sacked from all his jobs with the last one being after he lead a top Belgium club to 2 wins in 12 games.

The biggest one.....Why the hell has it taken so long to come up with Parker?

An element of desperation by Alan Pace here I think no matter what he or anyone else says.

I don't think he will last the season.

Unexciting times.
I would imagine it's taken a while because the club has been exploring a range of options. That's the simple and very obvious explanation.

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Re: Next manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Paddy1882 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:05 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:51 pm
Sorry, I don't get the point you are making. Are you sure there is more to be learned from losing than from winning?
I’d say you learn more from losing than you do from winning yeah. I also don’t think just because a person has failed in the past they are bound to fail again in the future.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:07 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:35 pm
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Can't be real. O'hare hasn't joined us yet.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:08 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:05 pm
I’d say you learn more from losing than you do from winning yeah.
A hell of a lot more.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:08 pm


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Re: Next manager

Post by billyhamilton82 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:11 pm

TPClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:41 pm
Don’t get the negativity. He’s the only candidate who’s actually got two promotions from this league. Who did people seriously want.
I think the negativity stems from the other names we have been linked with and the duration of the process.

It's taken so long to appoint Parker he was obviously not first choice if it does turn out to be him.

It would suggest that the reports involving RVN and Man Utd are true and whoever else has turned us down and how far down the list Parker actually was we will never know.

Parker has a very good record in the Champ so he can hopefully hit the ground running.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:11 pm

taio wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:04 pm
I would imagine it's taken a while because the club has been exploring a range of options. That's the simple and very obvious explanation.
Hence the last turkey in the shop analogy

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:13 pm

What is it that you have actually seen that makes you not want Parker? Have you watched his games in belgium?

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Re: Next manager

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:15 pm

Yes, I'm underwhelmed, but let's just remind ourselves how many managers turned Bayern down before they went for VK?

Obviously not who we really wanted but let's just see what develops, his promotion record speaks for itself

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