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Re: Next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:55 am

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:52 am
The other candidate was Kasper Hjulmand and he was at Gawthorpe on Tuesday.

It looks like the club has gone for Parker over him, which I'm surprised at.
Not suggesting this is true but if he has been at the club this week, could Kasper be a DOF?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:59 am

claretronnie wrote:
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Never used this site before, always told on social media It was full of moaning, angry old men.

Enjoying it on here. That means it's either it's not, or I've become one...
Oi less of the moaning 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Next manager

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:59 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 am
Hjulmand was exciting, but only on paper. His club record is nothing to shout about and he knows zilch about the Championship.
Exactly my thoughts. Parker might not be fashionable or the hipsters choice but he's got 2 champ promotions to his name

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Re: Next manager

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:01 pm

Whoever it is I can't help feeling we really, really need to get on with it!!!!
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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:06 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:28 am
Whoever is our next manager we should be coached to play high-tempo, direct and aggressive football. No faffing around playing across the back four.
“Faffing” 😂😂

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Re: Next manager

Post by Commy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:10 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:06 pm
“Faffing” 😂😂
You won't be happy with Parker then as, according to other teams fans and their local press, he faffs around with the ball and then sits on a 1.0 lead.

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Re: Next manager

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:11 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:28 am
Whoever is our next manager we should be coached to play high-tempo, direct and aggressive football. No faffing around playing across the back four.
Taken from an article…..


Given Burnley are now in the second tier and will have their eyes on an immediate return, I would imagine he will revert to the former. Albeit 4-2-3-1 has good balance across the pitch, the style of play is slow. Watch Southgate’s England right now and it’s not far off Parker’s style. Slow, frustrating and lots of passing with little end product.

Reliant on Mitrovic, Fulham had tricky wingers around him, but sometimes it would be one step forward and two steps back. Parker liked to dominate the ball, however in the Premier League it was very much soak up pressure and play on the break, which didn’t really work very well.

He started tinkering with playing five at the back which gave Fulham more stability at the back, but almost nothing going forward, albeit this was against Premier League opposition.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:16 pm

Commy wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:10 pm
You won't be happy with Parker then as, according to other teams fans and their local press, he faffs around with the ball and then sits on a 1.0 lead.
Not sure why you’re quoting me, Commy?

I was laughing at the thought of passing it around the back 4 being faffing with no direction.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:17 pm

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:19 pm

If Pep came to manage Burnley … someone would complain. He has no hair … he’s Spanish …he has bad English … he wears polo jumpers …
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Re: Next manager

Post by AmbleClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:20 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:19 pm
If Pep came to manage Burnley … someone would complain. He has no hair … he’s Spanish …he has bad English … he wears polo jumpers …
He's a has-been,surely.Lost his last game after all.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:21 pm

Commy wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:10 pm
You won't be happy with Parker then as, according to other teams fans and their local press, he faffs around with the ball and then sits on a 1.0 lead.
Amazing if true.

Bournemouth under Parker finished second in the Championship whilst being the second highest scoring team and conceding the fewest number of goals.

Scoring the second highest number of goals sitting on a 1-0 lead is some achievement. :lol:
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:30 pm

Worrying there’s no mention of Bellamy and Jackson in that tweet. I’ve somewhat come to terms with this but only if they’re part of the deal.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:30 pm

Look, 2 seasons ago we were the 21st best team, got promoted and started the season, let's say as 18th best team. Over the course of last season, the team ranked 20th, Luton, improved past Sheff U and ourselves. This meant we fell from 18th to 19th and subsequently got relegated. Let's say we start the season as 22nd, meaning we have to ensure that no teams improve past us, whilst we can potentially improve 1 place, hopefully, back to 21st again.
However it might take us until late in the season to do that. Very few teams lead from start to finish.
It is probably going to be painful for many as we may not be in the top two immediately, so expect plenty of complaints from those who think we are entitled to a trouble free season.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Lubanski » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:37 pm

Can't imagine a manager thinking were one up here let's just faff about at the back I'm sure a bit more thought goes into it. Couldn't imagine a current Burnley team doing that.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:42 pm

Lubanski wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:37 pm
Can't imagine a manager thinking were one up here let's just faff about at the back I'm sure a bit more thought goes into it. Couldn't imagine a current Burnley team doing that.
Bournemouth under Parker didn’t do it either which is why they scored the second highest number of goals in the Championship that season, whilst conceding the fewest.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:48 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:44 am
In the 2021/22 season that Bournemouth finished runners up behind Fulham they were the second highest scoring team and had the tightest defence conceding fewest goals.
A repeat of that this season and no fan should have any complaints.
Indeed! And if you want fast attacking aggressive football you need players who are both quick and really good in transition. I'm not sure we have those players to be honest...!

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:52 pm

Out of the 3 squads, Parker’s Fulham squad, Parker Bournemouth squad and the squad he’s going to inherit, which would you say on paper is the best, based on quality, depth, value?

I actually think our squad on paper is better than the 2 squads Parker has had in the championship before

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:53 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:19 pm
If Pep came to manage Burnley … someone would complain. He has no hair … he’s Spanish …he has bad English … he wears polo jumpers …
At least all of those are actually true....!

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:54 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:52 pm
Out of the 3 squads, Parker’s Fulham squad, Parker Bournemouth squad and the squad he’s going to inherit, which would you say on paper is the best, based on quality, depth, value?

I actually think our squad on paper is better than the 2 squads Parker has had in the championship before
We don't know what it is yet...

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:54 pm

Well if he's actually going to be our manager, let's get on with it.

Really struggling to be excited about the new season, but I'm sure it will be fine, eventually.
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Re: Next manager

Post by willsclarets » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:54 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:52 pm
Out of the 3 squads, Parker’s Fulham squad, Parker Bournemouth squad and the squad he’s going to inherit, which would you say on paper is the best, based on quality, depth, value?

I actually think our squad on paper is better than the 2 squads Parker has had in the championship before
Completely agree, with the caveat that it's also massive and a little imbalanced. His work in the next 2 or 3 weeks on and off the training pitch is huge

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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:56 pm

Commy wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:10 pm
You won't be happy with Parker then as, according to other teams fans and their local press, he faffs around with the ball and then sits on a 1.0 lead.
If it works for a whole season I'll take it.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretronnie » Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:57 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:17 pm
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Told you all this at 9:15am

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Re: Next manager

Post by Firthy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:00 pm

At least Parker has brought Santos with him :)

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:22 pm

Love how everyone's now an expert on Parker's style of play and remembers in detail all of Bournemouth and Fulham's performances under him.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ISpeds00 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:27 pm

Scott Parker spotted at Kitchens Garage earlier this morning

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:31 pm

ISpeds00 wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:27 pm
Scott Parker spotted at Kitchens Garage earlier this morning
Did he go to the drive through chippy next door as well ?
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Re: Next manager

Post by claretskeith » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:30 pm
Worrying there’s no mention of Bellamy and Jackson in that tweet. I’ve somewhat come to terms with this but only if they’re part of the deal.
Quite the opposite to my thinking. If they were leaving they would more likely to have been mentioned.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:39 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:32 pm
Quite the opposite to my thinking. If they were leaving they would more likely to have been mentioned.
Hope you’re right and their remaining is all announced together.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:59 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:19 pm
If Pep came to manage Burnley … someone would complain. He has no hair … he’s Spanish …he has bad English … he wears polo jumpers …

Pep's lost the dressing room.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:26 pm

Today?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:32 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:11 pm
Taken from an article…..

Reliant on Mitrovic, Fulham had tricky wingers around him, but sometimes it would be one step forward and two steps back.


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Reliance on a goalscorer rings warning bells already because we haven't got one.
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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:35 pm

I think the silver lining is that Parker is coming into the club without any backroom staff - Bellamy and Jackson staying, along with the addition of Jenson as a coach gives some nice balance and hopefully ensures that the footballing operation is a lot more 'democratic', for want of a better term.
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Re: Next manager

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:36 pm

I don’t give a toss about his previous record or style of play. I would expect him or any other capable manager to comfortably achieve promotion back to the Prem at the first attempt
We clearly have a far superior squad of players and anything less than promotion will be a failure by Parker and Pace
The bar has been set

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Re: Next manager

Post by BigGaz » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:37 pm

I tell you what lads, he isn't getting my pecker up unduly but having said that, this team, or similar to it:

Muric/Trafford
Sambo Beyer Esteve Pires
Berge Cullen
Odobert Amdouni Koleosho
Foster

With all of the quality we have in reserve should really be cantering the league.

That's an embarrassment of riches tbh (at this level). A vaguely competent manager should do very very well with that side and I will at least concede he is at least a competent kind of guy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:47 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:37 pm
I tell you what lads, he isn't getting my pecker up unduly but having said that, this team, or similar to it:

Muric/Trafford
Sambo Beyer Esteve Pires
Berge Cullen
Odobert Amdouni Koleosho
Foster

With all of the quality we have in reserve should really be cantering the league.

That's an embarrassment of riches tbh (at this level). A vaguely competent manager should do very very well with that side and I will at least concede he is at least a competent kind of guy.
The summer isn't over yet, but I have to agree, we do have an abundance of talent, all they need is someone to mould them into a team, regardless of formation.
The squad numbers need trimming, and we still have a glaring hole in the centre mid department, hopefully a leader on the pitch, so I can see quite a few departures. Hopefully a couple of more incoming. Just pray we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A concern with Parker, and it would be the same with a lot of potential managers, is that the game has moved on a long way since he played it. I was struck last season by how much better teams were than 12 months earlier when we went down. We didn't hit any heights, but the bar had definitely been raised. If Parker gets us up, and he should, the gulf between the Championship and the Prem is wider than ever. A manager who isn't used to or prepared for it, is going to be found wanting. I hope he is a lot more open to advice than VK was.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:46 pm

I think the biggest difference between this season and the Championship season under Kompany is we probably can't afford a similar slow start if we want top 2. Luton and Leeds will be very strong for sure and I think there will be a couple more too. Parker really will have to hit the ground running

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Re: Next manager

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:52 pm

ISpeds00 wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:27 pm
Scott Parker spotted at Kitchens Garage earlier this morning
I saw they were advertising for a new tyre fitter

Have to watch out for the grease on his cardi's

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:15 pm

It’s OK Alan , you have won, you can announce the new manager now . We are so fed up waiting we are happy to have anyone.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:46 pm
I think the biggest difference between this season and the Championship season under Kompany is we probably can't afford a similar slow start if we want top 2. Luton and Leeds will be very strong for sure and I think there will be a couple more too. Parker really will have to hit the ground running
One thing about Luton for me now is they aren’t little old Luton the underdogs anymore. They have expectation on them and it’s if they can cope with that expectation.

They have been linked with sheaf from Coventry for 6-8m, if they start spending that sort of money on players in the champ then expectations will be high

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quicknick » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:17 pm

If it's Parker, I really glad.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:20 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:16 pm
One thing about Luton for me now is they aren’t little old Luton the underdogs anymore. They have expectation on them and it’s if they can cope with that expectation.

They have been linked with sheaf from Coventry for 6-8m, if they start spending that sort of money on players in the champ then expectations will be high
They've already signed Baptiste, Luton will be challengers this season if they keep Edwards.
We've got the most talent in the league but talent alone doesn't win matches we need the players to start showing some fight and passion

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:23 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:15 pm
It’s OK Alan , you have won, you can announce the new manager now . We are so fed up waiting we are happy to have anyone.
It is starting to feel like that now.

It's like waiting for the dentist. Eventually you just want to get it over with.

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Re: Next manager

Post by rob63 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:28 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:52 pm


I actually think our squad on paper is better than the 2 squads Parker has had in the championship before
But like they say, we don't play on paper...... we play on grass! :D

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Re: Next manager

Post by Commy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:34 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:16 pm
Not sure why you’re quoting me, Commy?

I was laughing at the thought of passing it around the back 4 being faffing with no direction.
Sorry, I meant to quote the comment you quoted and messed it up :roll:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:40 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:16 pm
One thing about Luton for me now is they aren’t little old Luton the underdogs anymore. They have expectation on them and it’s if they can cope with that expectation.

They have been linked with sheaf from Coventry for 6-8m, if they start spending that sort of money on players in the champ then expectations will be high
Losing Lakonga and Barkley is massive but Edwards knows what he is doing, he'll replace them well. Very tough opener for us

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Re: Next manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:47 pm

Luton are a team of Alehouse brawlers as they showed last year.Hopefully we won't have a shite ref like last season and we've no var to screw us over this time.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:52 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:36 pm
I don’t give a toss about his previous record or style of play. I would expect him or any other capable manager to comfortably achieve promotion back to the Prem at the first attempt
We clearly have a far superior squad of players and anything less than promotion will be a failure by Parker and Pace
The bar has been set
God I wish I could be so confident.

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