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by ksrclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:14 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:10 pm
I thought you might have.

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by bfcjg » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:22 pm
Brilliant for us after a poor start in the championship, treated harshly by Kompany but that said he wants to go so then it's a bidding war, however if there is little interest you either take what you can or have a very unhappy player.
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by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:41 pm
Wish him well and it makes sense for all. As for the fee, he’s only worth what someone will pay for him
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by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:41 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:03 pm
Do we sell Trafford also and start a total fresh in this department
I hope so, fed up of the toxic Muric v JT debate. If we can get a good price for both, then get them chopped and start fresh with a clear No. 1 & No. 2
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by Wokingclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:46 pm
Sad to see Muric go
Trafford to go too I suspect unless Parker can be persuade him to stay, with probably being first choice, which he wouldn't get in the prem
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by ElectroClaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:09 pm
Money might be on the low side a bit, but we can hopefully wave to him as we pass him on the way up as the Tractors will more than likely return to the Championship.

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by KRBFC » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:12 pm
Fantastic news, never a PL goalkeeper, complete loose cannon. I’m surprised the fee is so high given his obvious limitations.
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:14 pm
Damn good keeper if you leave a man on the line behind him.
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by Nonayforever » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:19 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:02 pm
I've been told a totally different story
What did your mum say ?
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by Since62 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:21 pm
Not too bothered who goes, stays or comes in but I am looking forward to getting the squad down to about 25 players that SP wants and can manage to create a cohesive team.
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by BigGaz » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:28 pm
Excellent distribution and a decent shot stopper.
Tempered with the fact that he's an absolute lunatic and is prone to catastrophic lapses of concentration that can and have cost us games.
We loved him because he fit the style we played perfectly and he was good fun but I won't forget that for 30/40% of his time here there were people literally watching him with their hands covering their eyes
10m rising to 15m sounds a fair price. We've quadrupled our money, had some great times with him and there is not a cat in hells he's gonna play at much higher level than that.
All the best Aro, sorry you got treated the way you did.
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by burnley007 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:31 pm
Is it weird that I will now be cheering him on at Ipswich?
I'm not bothered about ex players, but Muric is a bit of a legend to me
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by Commy » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:32 pm
You can't blame him for wanting to play in the Premier League, and up his money.
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by GetIntoEm » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:32 pm
burnley007 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:31 pm
Is it weird that I will now be cheering him on at Ipswich?
I'm not bothered about ex players, but Muric is a bit of a legend to me
Yes very weird.
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by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:33 pm
Great keeper in the Championship but after his nightclub stunt always second choice for VK
Down in Championship next year along with Ipswich.
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by Quicknick » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:35 pm
bfcjg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:22 pm
Brilliant for us after a poor start in the championship, treated harshly by Kompany but that said he wants to go so then it's a bidding war, however if there is little interest you either take what you can or have a very unhappy player.
I think brilliant is stretching it. In danger of becoming the new Brian Jensen if he stays.
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by Elizabeth » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:36 pm
In my opinion overrated by too many on this forum. I’m not expecting Parker to be playing the same way as Kompany so Muric would be pretty much redundant if I’m right , plus no more of his absolute howlers that cost us so much at a vital time last season.
If the figure I’m seeing of his buying price is right we are making a tidy profit after the slice due to City.
Now if we can do this with one or two more Kompany signings we will be moving forward
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by Taffy on the wing » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:37 pm
I for one will miss watching him play..........massively entertaining!
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by claretskeith » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:56 pm
Fee on the lower side for me and I'd have preferred him to have stayed and been our number 1, but if he wants out he wants out.
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:58 pm
We won't need a keeper next year.
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by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:00 pm
Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:19 pm
What did your mum say ?
She says your's is the local bike
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:02 pm
For God's sake.
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by Goalposts » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:05 pm
Done deal - first of a couple that will be done in next seven days
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by BigGaz » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:07 pm
By the way, another thing to consider is this that to my mind is possibly the first player to bear fruit of this whole moneyball approach.
I hope VK leaving hasn't severed whatever relationship we might have built with City because with Muric, and the interest we've had in Trafford suggests to me that there is a very valid and viable income stream taking in their 'almost, but not quite' cohort.
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by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:13 pm
BigGaz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:07 pm
By the way, another thing to consider is this that to my mind is possibly the first player to bear fruit of this whole moneyball approach.
I hope VK leaving hasn't severed whatever relationship we might have built with City because with Muric, and the interest we've had in Trafford suggests to me that there is a very valid and viable income stream taking in their 'almost, but not quite' cohort.
I’d say our approach is anything other than Moneyball.
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by claretskeith » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:15 pm
Goalposts wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:05 pm
Done deal - first of a couple that will be done in next seven days
Who else do you know who is leaving?
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by deanothedino » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:16 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:03 pm
If that figure is true then it's a joke, I thought these owners were skilled business men
Maybe that’s why they’re selling him for a large profit when he’s refusing to come to work. Some on here would sell Trafford and barely break even and think the board had done something good.
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by ksrclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:18 pm
Goalposts wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:05 pm
Done deal - first of a couple that will be done in next seven days
I really hope you're right, and then a few more after that.
We need the squad size reducing because it's ridiculous right now.
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by claretskeith » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:20 pm
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:18 pm
I really hope you're right, and then a few more after that.
We need the squad size reducing because it's ridiculous right now.
We do, so long as it's quantity being reduced and not quality.
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by jojomk1 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:22 pm
They were willing to pay £20m for the untried Delap and £18m for youngster Omari Hutchinson
Seems cheap against these two deals
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by bpgburn » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:24 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:57 pm
I thought you might have also, mine comes from someone that is part of the staff at Burnley, and before anybody asks I'm not naming them, you come across like you're the only person In the world that gets told anything that's going on at the club and everyone else is making it up, you're in the dark like 99% like the rest of us
You haven't even said what your inside information is so how can anyone quantify how reliable it is? Or are you waiting for it to be disclosed and then say, "that is what I was told"?
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by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:26 pm
This thing of having to be the first with correct information is getting really boring.
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by BigGaz » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:27 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:13 pm
I’d say our approach is anything other than Moneyball.
Well yeah, I think the idea was supposed to be that but think we forgot the key ingredient which is selling at the peak of their value.
Muric, Benson, Zaroury and one or two others should have gone at the start of last season for example.
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by bumba » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:28 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:12 pm
Fantastic news, never a PL goalkeeper, complete loose cannon. I’m surprised the fee is so high given his obvious limitations.
But you thought Trafford was good value??
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by ksrclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:29 pm
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:26 pm
This thing of having to be the first with correct information is getting really boring.
If only what they posted was correct.
You've got people like agent_claret, getintothem, pushpinpussy etc who literally just make things up. Presumably it results in some sort of dopamine release for them.
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:30 pm
Can't see him going straight in above Cooper but Cooper isn't getting any younger.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:42 pm
Probably the best move for all.
Get a decent fee for us and he probably gets a chance to start in the premier league as a number 1 keeper.
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by GetIntoEm » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:43 pm
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:29 pm
If only what they posted was correct.
You've got people like agent_claret, getintothem, pushpinpussy etc who literally just make things up. Presumably it results in some sort of dopamine release for them.
I've not made anything up, thanks for the name drop tho
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by roperclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:52 pm
jojomk1 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:22 pm
They were willing to pay £20m for the untried Delap and £18m for youngster Omari Hutchinson
Seems cheap against these two deals
Keepers are still much cheaper than outfield players
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by ksrclaret » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:52 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:43 pm
I've not made anything up, thanks for the name drop tho
No problem pal. It's not personal though, there are others who also get a kick out of making things up, but your username is always one I think of after the Tella stuff you posted last summer.
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by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:56 pm
BigGaz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:27 pm
Well yeah, I think the idea was supposed to be that but think we forgot the key ingredient which is selling at the peak of their value.
Muric, Benson, Zaroury and one or two others should have gone at the start of last season for example.
My point was more that this approach is nothing like Moneyball, our previous ownership’s transfer model was much more similar to Moneyball.
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by GetIntoEm » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:58 pm
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:52 pm
No problem pal. It's not personal though, there are others who also get a kick out of making things up, but your username is always one I think of after the Tella stuff you posted last summer.
I only post what I know, as one of very few Mormons in this area I hear a lot of talk around church. I only share what I believe to be true. It's not in my DNA to intentionally lie
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:01 pm
GetIntoEm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:58 pm
I only post what I know, as one of very few Mormons in this area I hear a lot of talk around church. I only share what I believe to be true. It's not in my DNA to intentionally lie
I'm also a Mormon, for the record.
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by IanMcL » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:01 pm
And so the exodus begins. Trafford next. Wonder who will become our keeper for the season?
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:03 pm
IanMcL wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:01 pm
And so the exodus begins. Trafford next. Wonder who will become our keeper for the season?
Hopefully he won't be Scottish.
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by IanMcL » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:03 pm
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:54 pm
It’s either £8 million rising to £10 million
Or
It’s £15 million
Depends who you believe
It’s interesting to see people say it’s not enough either way after watching the same people undervalue Trafford
I think I believe the EA Times. 8 up to 10.
If so, we have been taken for mugs!
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by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:06 pm
Muric’s distribution skills have also been over-lauded in my opinion. There’s no doubt that Muric has the ability to find incredible passes, but as we saw last season, when put under pressure and with a quicker opposition cutting out passing angles and options his distribution was notably average for the Premier League. Being able to play a 30 yard dink with the outside of the boot is great but not when you try it 5 times and it goes out of play 4 times.
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by k90bfc » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:16 pm
Thanks,Vinny,for forcing him away,and You are not here anymore!
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by distortiondave » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:18 pm
Scott Arfield is Moneyball. George Boyd is Moneyball. Even Tom Heaton is Moneyball. Signing players to sell for a profit is....Football.
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by equinox » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:21 pm
distortiondave wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:18 pm
Scott Arfield is Moneyball. George Boyd is Moneyball. Even Tom Heaton is Moneyball. Signing players to sell for a profit is....Football.
Other way round, fridgeman