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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:05 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:56 am
He went on holiday with Esteve so there’s maybe that factor.

I agree about Sambo but I was told we were confident on Assignon after we’d signed him. Obviously it was missplaced confidence.

Personally think he’d be a huge signing for us, particularly if the rumoured outgoings are true, so hope we can convince him but I imagine the chances are zero if Roma are in for him.
I suppose it depends if the Roma stories are true, or just agent bs

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:10 am

I mentioned long ago in this thread that we needed to reduce our squad by at least 10 players, it's far too large.
I also said there was a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
The loss of Muric, and the even mentioning of losing Berge and Brownhill is frightening. In our massive squad the weakest area is midfield and we talk about getting rid of our best 2.
We started the window with a squad well placed to bounce straight back. We can't afford to throw that opportunity away, it might be a one off, and no amount of money is going to better the benefits of promotion.

Of course it might all be rumours, but I hope AP and SP, haven't lost sight of the prize.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:14 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:26 am
Could be Lafont?


https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... part-ways/
FWIW, here’s a video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9PjA8XFlKY8

Him & Mory Diaw seem to make a lot of decent stops but don’t half put it back in to the danger area with most of them.

Call me old fashioned but I like to see a keeper catch the ball.

Diaw very decent with his feet though from a short YouTube video.

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Post by bumba » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:17 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:05 am
I suppose it depends if the Roma stories are true, or just agent bs
Can't see Roma being interested unless they sell Celik or Karsdorp

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:18 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:05 am
I suppose it depends if the Roma stories are true, or just agent bs
Yes. Galatasaray also allegedly interested in January and again now though, so even if they’re not interested I can see another big club being in for him.

Hope we push the boat out to compete myself, if not would like to keep Roberts for the experience.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:19 am

Leeds are looking at singing bogle from sheff united which will probably put to bed the Roberts move.

We will currently have Roberts, vitinho and sambo. No chance we spend 7m on assignon to

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:20 am

bumba wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:17 am
Can't see Roma being interested unless they sell Celik or Karsdorp
I did think that myself. Even if they sold one, I can’t see him being guaranteed starter.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:21 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:19 am
Leeds are looking at singing bogle from sheff united which will probably put to bed the Roberts move.

We will currently have Roberts, vitinho and sambo. No chance we spend 7m on assignon to
God Sheff United are losing some players this summer. Big rebuilding job there.

Maybe they’d go in for Roberts?

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:25 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:52 am
He’s 23! He’s at a point in his career where he needs to be thinking of cementing a number 1 spot down somewhere. If he doesn’t think he can get ahead of Steele or Verbuggen, then I can’t see why he wouldn’t move. Born in Halifax too so localish lad.
Don’t know a lot about him but for the reasons you state, it’d make a lot of sense to me if we were interested.

Local, unlikely to feature at Brighton, high potential and presumably not too expensive. Big lad by the looks of things too.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:26 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:00 am
Plenty of legs left in Corky yet, would be a good one year contract signing.
Experience, skill and a boost for the dressing room.
Age is just a number.
Dale Stephens is available

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:26 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:20 am
I did think that myself. Even if they sold one, I can’t see him being guaranteed starter.
Doing some good business as well Though

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Post by summitclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:27 am

I suspect that Odobert and Berge's buy out clauses are a problem. They are our most saleable assets atm and will want to stay in the PL. Replacing them with Cork and JBG would be a massive backwards step.
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Post by summitclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:29 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:00 am
Plenty of legs left in Corky yet, would be a good one year contract signing.
Experience, skill and a boost for the dressing room.
Age is just a number.
Hi Jack.
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Post by claretskeith » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:33 am

summitclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:27 am
I suspect that Odobert and Berge's buy out clauses are a problem. They are our most saleable assets atm and will want to stay in the PL. Replacing them with Cork and JBG would be a massive backwards step.
Do they definitely have release clauses? Longsider suggests they are both being sold, but is this because they want to leave? If so, fair enough. But you sell too many of your best players and you don't get promoted, and promotion nets you a lot more money.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:56 am

SB to wolves is one I’ve heard. Probably been mentioned already in the thread. We want north of 20 million which is the stumbling block.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:58 am

If we could keep Berge we would be laughing .

Parker will want to see what the lads in the squad can do in the next week or so , then I suspect we will see departures happening - there are a lot of bodies to shift .

Some of these could well be late in the window to factor in the potential sales of players we would like to keep, if indeed an offer comes in which we can’t turn down.
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:58 am

We have to keep Berge.

Happy to sell anybody else bar him, O'Shea and Cullen to varying levels.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:58 am

Wolves are skint do that's more of a problem
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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:06 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:58 am
Wolves are skint do that's more of a problem
Haven't they just sold Kilman for £40m?

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Post by Cap » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:06 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:56 am
SB to wolves is one I’ve heard. Probably been mentioned already in the thread. We want north of 20 million which is the stumbling block.
Didn't Sheffield United reject £20m from Liverpool when they were in the championship?
We can't be selling cheap.
£25m minimum for me.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:13 pm

Sad to say it, but I would be shocked to see Berge play in the Championship. Clearly too good for it and PL clubs are interested, so why would he stay.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:18 pm

Berge wants to stay it's called loyalty

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:22 pm

Tell you what, I think my interest in football is at an all time low, bordering on not being bothered completely.

Overpaid, underperforming players dictating terms to their clubs, leaves a bitter taste. The rot seems to have set in deep, and I find myself questioning the very point of it all.

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:37 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:22 pm
Tell you what, I think my interest in football is at an all time low, bordering on not being bothered completely.

Overpaid, underperforming players dictating terms to their clubs, leaves a bitter taste. The rot seems to have set in deep, and I find myself questioning the very point of it all.
I think a clear out of the mercenaries is exactly what’s needed. Getting rid of the manager was a brilliant start but aside from an odd few, I’m happy to see the vast majority his signings to go with him to be honest.

I understand how you feel after watching the total vanity project disaster of last season, but give this season a fair shot first. I just hope we start to sign a few recognisable names from the English game.
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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:45 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:37 pm
I think a clear out of the mercenaries is exactly what’s needed. Getting rid of the manager was a brilliant start but aside from an odd few, I’m happy to see the vast majority his signings to go with him to be honest.

I understand how you feel after watching the total vanity project disaster of last season, but give this season a fair shot first. I just hope we start to sign a few recognisable names from the English game.
That's certainly fair ksr and I'm inclined to agree with you on needing a 'clearout'. The type of business we started to do under VK is just not sustainable for a club like ours imo... We need the Cork, Guddy, Mee etc types that really buy into the club and want to be here for a long while.

It might not be all glam and may have some 'boring' windows - a couple of mercenaries is fine I guess but for the long term stability/success of BFC it's very important.

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Post by Mattster » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:46 pm

Michael Mellon is off to Stockport on loan.
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Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:50 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:58 am
We have to keep Berge.

Happy to sell anybody else bar him, O'Shea and Cullen to varying levels.
We forget players like Berge are under contract. Vital we keep him, so set a high minimum asking price ie £20m, and unless anyone can give us that without the hideous add-ons, he stays. Lets not frett about who we are going to lose
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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:50 pm

Mattster wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:46 pm
Michael Mellon is off to Stockport on loan.
Be interested to see how he performs in League One.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:54 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:18 pm
Berge wants to stay it's called loyalty
I have no idea if this is true but wouldn’t it be great to see a few of the players like Berge, O’Shea and Odobert follow Esteve’s lead and show some loyalty after relegation? I’m sure they’d be rewarded by the fans with a lot of support.

And more to the point, if I were Alan Pace I would demand it.

In the main they only signed a year ago and I think there’s a point at which you have to tell them you’re putting the clubs interests above any personal interests and they have to respect it.

I actually think if we don’t it becomes a problem on so many levels:

- we reduce our chances of going up and lose out on £200m, rot sets in and we have to sell more
- if we do go up we still have to replace said players with premier league quality
- will they really work that hard for us if they know they can swan off if we get relegated again?

Culture is set at the top so I hope Pace and co are setting it.
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:57 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:50 pm
We forget players like Berge are under contract. Vital we keep him, so set a high minimum asking price ie £20m, and unless anyone can give us that without the hideous add-ons, he stays. Lets not frett about who we are going to lose
I think he's worth more to us than £20m. A midfield of Berge and Cullen, if fit, almost guarantees promotion in my opinion. We would be so unbelievably dominant with the ball that the constant recycling into forward areas by the pair of them would inevitably, eventually, break teams down with our wingers. If we're going to make £10-15 on Muric, £20m+ on Trafford and (unfortunately, but inevitably) sell Odobert for big money as well then I fail to see any need to sell Berge.

He signed a contract with us knowing that there was a chance we'd get relegated and he has previously stuck with Sheff Utd for two years in this league. He should be made to honour that for one season, assuming we bring in the required funds from other deals to pay off Pace's loans for another year (....).

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:00 pm

I'd love it if a few of the lads (and the ones that really did battle for us last season) wanted to stay and were keen to set down that sort of culture at the club.

I'd also reward their loyalty as well - £20 mill for Berge does nothing for us, we just lose a damn good CM and then have to hope to replace him.

We should have enough coming in with the compo for VK, sales of Muric and naturally paying less wages after losing Chaz/natural reduction of wages after relegation clauses come in.

----O'Shea-Esteve
----Berge-Cullen

is as good as a spine as there has been in the Championship... losing one of those players would be bad, losing two would be a disaster.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:01 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:57 pm
I think he's worth more to us than £20m. A midfield of Berge and Cullen, if fit, almost guarantees promotion in my opinion. We would be so unbelievably dominant with the ball that the constant recycling into forward areas by the pair of them would inevitably, eventually, break teams down with our wingers. If we're going to make £10-15 on Muric, £20m+ on Trafford and (unfortunately, but inevitably) sell Odobert for big money as well then I fail to see any need to sell Berge.

He signed a contract with us knowing that there was a chance we'd get relegated and he has previously stuck with Sheff Utd for two years in this league. He should be made to honour that for one season, assuming we bring in the required funds from other deals to pay off Pace's loans for another year (....).
Yes I accept he could be worth more than that £20m. I was simply putting a realistic (to both sides) fee on his head.It was his foraging runs that I will remember of last year in the PL when there were not too many positives, and a number led to goals. In the Championship he could be the stand out player

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Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:04 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:54 pm
And more to the point, if I were Alan Pace I would demand it.

In the main they only signed a year ago and I think there’s a point at which you have to tell them you’re putting the clubs interests above any personal interests and they have to respect it.
He can't. Simple as that. If a player wants to leave, then unless its in their contract that a certain fee has to be met, then it's in their interests and ours that they move on ASAP.

Imagine in your job the company is in a worse position than the previous year, you get a better offer from a company in a better situation and your boss tells you you have to be loyal to us? You'd tell them to do one and rightly so.
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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:08 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:56 am
SB to wolves is one I’ve heard. Probably been mentioned already in the thread. We want north of 20 million which is the stumbling block.
When are you gonna give up? Your source hasn’t got one right yet

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Post by jlup1980 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:10 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:00 pm
I'd love it if a few of the lads (and the ones that really did battle for us last season) wanted to stay and were keen to set down that sort of culture at the club.

I'd also reward their loyalty as well - £20 mill for Berge does nothing for us, we just lose a damn good CM and then have to hope to replace him.

We should have enough coming in with the compo for VK, sales of Muric and naturally paying less wages after losing Chaz/natural reduction of wages after relegation clauses come in.

----O'Shea-Esteve
----Berge-Cullen

is as good as a spine as there has been in the Championship... losing one of those players would be bad, losing two would be a disaster.
Add Brownhill into that midfield and we'll be far too much for anyone. Cullen is the metronome, Berge the class, Brownhill the industry. If we're able to start a 4231 with Brownhill pressing high in the no.10 role, with Koleosho / Odobert / Benson / Zaroury as our wide options we'll be something else.

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:12 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:10 pm
Add Brownhill into that midfield and we'll be far too much for anyone. Cullen is the metronome, Berge the class, Brownhill the industry. If we're able to start a 4231 with Brownhill pressing high in the no.10 role, with Koleosho / Odobert / Benson / Zaroury as our wide options we'll be something else.
Yep totally agree - I'd of course love Brownhill to stay and play in that role that he did for us so well in the 22/23 season, just wasn't sure if he was leaving or not!

Then we have JBG, Massengo and two from the wingers you listed to come on at 60-70 minutes to literally run teams to death.
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Post by Commy » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:16 pm

Mattster wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:46 pm
Michael Mellon is off to Stockport on loan.
He can't go to Stockport as they hate us :lol:

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Post by HB Claret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:19 pm

I’d love to know who the mercenaries are.

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Post by dibraidio » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:20 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:56 am
SB to wolves is one I’ve heard. Probably been mentioned already in the thread. We want north of 20 million which is the stumbling block.
If we get 10 million for Samuel Bastien I'll drive him there myself!
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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:08 pm
When are you gonna give up? Your source hasn’t got one right yet
The day you leave this board. I promise

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:23 pm

Commy wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:16 pm
He can't go to Stockport as they hate us :lol:
Article was written last week for this one but it's only a loan as far as I know which will be a good move for him.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:31 pm

I hear this guy Vaclav Hladky will be named a Burnley player in the next 24hrs

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:39 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:31 pm
I hear this guy Vaclav Hladky will be named a Burnley player in the next 24hrs
I heard there was a medical today (no name given).

Assumed it was that Andreas Hountondji guy but if that’s true it could tie in.

Sensible signing on a free, I’d say.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:42 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:12 pm
Yep totally agree - I'd of course love Brownhill to stay and play in that role that he did for us so well in the 22/23 season, just wasn't sure if he was leaving or not!

Then we have JBG, Massengo and two from the wingers you listed to come on at 60-70 minutes to literally run teams to death.
I’d start JBG for his vision and dead ball delivery in the 10, with Brownhill coming on if we can get ourselves in a commanding position.

We should rightly let Brownhill leave if there’s a chance to sell with one year left on his contract. Would also like to see him stay though.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:49 pm

Emotional attachment to speculation is not healthy.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Row x » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:49 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:39 pm
I heard there was a medical today (no name given).

Assumed it was that Andreas Hountondji guy but if that’s true it could tie in.

Sensible signing on a free, I’d say.
I wonder if Pires has had his yet.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:50 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:56 am
He went on holiday with Esteve so there’s maybe that factor.

I agree about Sambo but I was told we were confident on Assignon after we’d signed him. Obviously it was missplaced confidence.

Personally think he’d be a huge signing for us, particularly if the rumoured outgoings are true, so hope we can convince him but I imagine the chances are zero if Roma are in for him.
I wouldn’t be signing another RB until Roberts has been sold. The two above and Vitinho gives us one too many anyway.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:53 pm

I'd be happy to see the Ipswich keeper come in, bit of experience and height and played every game last season as they got promoted.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Commy » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:55 pm

Row x wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:49 pm
I wonder if Pires has had his yet.
It does seem to be dragging on, if the rumours were true. It will be one hell of an intro video :) .

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