Team for Luton

[ecc]

Problem is we're a long way beyond schedule with everything but now SP has arrived the rest of July should be very busy.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Think it’s likely we see quite a few changes but I do think this squad would be too good for the championship.

For me

Muric
Sambo O’Shea Beyer pires
Cullen Berge
Benson Odobert Koleosho
Foster

That is very aggressive - likely to play at least one more experienced/defensive player in the attacking midfield 3 - likely to be a brownhill or JBG.

[boatshed bill]

Put JBG in for Benson and Esteve for O'Shea and that's a good line-up.

[Jakubs Tash]

Too many links re: Trafford which suggest he's likely to go while Muric seems to have made it clear he wants to leave.

Selling Trafford and Muric could potentially bring in up to £40-45m. We could then bring in some more dependable keepers for much less, e.g. Rodak is on a free and Cooper at Plymouth is rumoured to be available for £4-5m.

Then if we manage to get £25-30m for Odobert (fee is guesswork but I think that’s quite achievable for a 19 year old winger who has quite a few PL appearances under his belt - especially when you look at the going rate for other players who haven’t played in the PL) it will hopefully mean we have a chance to keep Berge who I think would be a huge player for us at this level.

If Tresor hasn’t reported back I’d be fining him as much as possible. Ship him out! Sell him to Saudi. They over-pay for players!

[Spike]

This all assumes that Muric doesn’t want to stay now Kompany is using his time to Spend in Munich

[boatshed bill]

Cooper would be ideal, neither Muric or Trafford have the level of consistency we would need if promoted.
Maybe we should also look for a 30ish year old GK with top league experience .

[LongsideClaret]

Selling Trafford and Muric could potentially bring in up to £40-45m. We could then bring in some more dependable keepers for much less, e.g. Rodak is on a free and Cooper at Plymouth is rumoured to be available for £4-5m.

Then if we manage to get £25-30m for Odobert (fee is guesswork but I think that’s quite achievable for a 19 year old winger who has quite a few PL appearances under his belt - especially when you look at the going rate for other players who haven’t played in the PL) it will hopefully mean we have a chance to keep Berge who I think would be a huge player for us at this level.

If Tresor hasn’t reported back I’d be fining him as much as possible. Ship him out! Sell him to Saudi. They over-pay for players!

Those fees for Muric, Trafford and Odobert don’t sound a million miles away. Believe one serious keeper option is Václav Hladky who played the full season last year for Ipswich. Although think he would be coming as a number 2.

[ClaretTony]

If Tresor hasn’t reported back I’d be fining him as much as possible. Ship him out! Sell him to Saudi. They over-pay for players!

I wasn't aware that he hadn't reported back. From all accounts it was a deal we'd have pulled out of had we been able to and if he doesn't want to be here either, the sooner it ends the better.

[Hapag Lloyd]

It seems that a player’s character wasn’t very high on Kompanys list of priorities.

[SalouClaret]

£40m-£45m for Trafford and Muric? Dreamworld!

£30m tops.

[claretonthecoast1882]

£40m-£45m for Trafford and Muric? Dreamworld!

£30m tops.

30m would be brilliant business. I can see Trafford bringing 20m but anything above 5m for Muric would be a surprise.

Has it been confirmed Muric has decided not to come back for training ?

[KlyBfc]

From what we have now
I’d probably play

Trafford

Roberts OShea Esteve Pires
Berge. Cullen
Brownhill
? ?
Foster

The 2 wingers who have trained the best / hardest start for me.
Tempted for Zaroury to be one as he knows the league and Luton away is arguably as tough as it will get.

[claretspice]

I wasn't aware that he hadn't reported back. From all accounts it was a deal we'd have pulled out of had we been able to and if he doesn't want to be here either, the sooner it ends the better.

Need to be a bit careful about this IMO before what appears to be pure speculation travels round the world as truth.

Is there any evidence Tresor hasn't reported back, or that he doesn't want to be here? Clearly his first season did not go well and he wouldn't be human if he hadn't questioned his decision to join us at times, but if we leave that natural reaction aside is there any reason to believe he's not keen to try and set the record straight this season?

[Jakubs Tash]

£40m-£45m for Trafford and Muric? Dreamworld!

£30m tops.

We’ve already turned down £20m and want nearer £30m for JT. With Newcastle and Chelsea interested I think we’ve a good chance of getting that.

Muric has got to be worth £10-15m comfortably when you look at some of the fees keepers are going for. £10-15m for a keeper like him is relatively cheap!

That will bring circa £40-45m…..and it’s not “dreamworld”.

[Jakubs Tash]

Those fees for Muric, Trafford and Odobert don’t sound a million miles away. Believe one serious keeper option is Václav Hladky who played the full season last year for Ipswich. Although think he would be coming as a number 2.

Good keeper. Interesting he would be coming as a number two though…. Heard any names of who they want as the new number one?

The fees that I’ve mentioned are guesswork…but ‘educated’ guesses based on recent reports and other transfers and valuations of players of a similar standing. I think they’re realistic. There’s quite a few Burnley fans who don’t give the board much credit when selling players and believe that we will only get our money back at best which I personally think is complete rubbish.

[Vim Fuego]

30m would be brilliant business. I can see Trafford bringing 20m but anything above 5m for Muric would be a surprise.

Not disagreeing with COTC initial sentence at all. Also the rest, unless he is being a deliberate snide again

But I find it strange how those values differ, yet I understand why they might. I am hesitant to state my opinion that Muric is a far better keeper right now than Trafford <even though I just did>, but this board has been completely split and that split is hardly 20/5. Just an observation

What I do see is both could leave

I have no idea on the team to face Luton. Sorry.

[BigGaz]

Think it’s likely we see quite a few changes but I do think this squad would be too good for the championship.

For me

Muric
Sambo O’Shea Beyer pires
Cullen Berge
Benson Odobert Koleosho
Foster

That is very aggressive - likely to play at least one more experienced/defensive player in the attacking midfield 3 - likely to be a brownhill or JBG.

When you say aggressive do you mean in an attacking sense or do you mean in terms of mentality?

Cause I'd agree with the former but otherwise I couldn't take you seriously. We've amassed one of the biggest sets of wet wipes I can ever remember us having at any level, which I'm surprised at as one thing you can begrudgingly give VK is that he wasn't averse to a bit of the old argy bargy.

[willsclarets]

New Keeper (sounds likely)

Roberts
Beyer
Esteve
Pires

Cullen
Massengo

Berge (as an 8)
Odobert
Koleosho

Foster

[SalouClaret]

We’ve already turned down £20m and want nearer £30m for JT. With Newcastle and Chelsea interested I think we’ve a good chance of getting that.

Muric has got to be worth £10-15m comfortably when you look at some of the fees keepers are going for. £10-15m for a keeper like him is relatively cheap!

That will bring circa £40-45m…..and it’s not “dreamworld”.

We aren't getting £30m for Trafford or £15m for Muric though, are we?

As I said. Dreamworld.

[Jakubs Tash]

We aren't getting £30m for Trafford or £15m for Muric though, are we?

As I said. Dreamworld.

Muric to Ipswich for £10m rising to £15m.

Already turned down a deal of £20m from Newcastle for Trafford.

Suggests it won’t be too far off the figure I have mentioned.

[bumba]

Muric to Ipswich for £10m rising to £15m.

Already turned down a deal of £20m from Newcastle for Trafford.

Suggests it won’t be too far off the figure I have mentioned.

Where has the club said it's turned down £20 million for Trafford?

I'd be very surprised if we didn't sell for £20 million

[Jakubs Tash]

Where has the club said it's turned down £20 million for Trafford?

I'd be very surprised if we didn't sell for £20 million

What a strange question. When does the club ever say it’s turned down an offer for a player?

The club might yet sell for an initial fee of £20m but I bet the deal will have add ons taking it beyond that.

[bumba]

What a strange question. When does the club ever say it’s turned down an offer for a player?

The club might yet sell for an initial fee of £20m but I bet the deal will have add ons taking it beyond that.

Almost as strange as a fan in the dark saying we've rejected £20 million when he's no idea whether we have or haven't

[BleedingClaret]

It seems that a player’s character wasn’t very high on Kompanys list of priorities.

Nor manager character either

[morninbob]

Where has the club said it's turned down £20 million for Trafford?

I'd be very surprised if we didn't sell for £20 million

We turned down 16, Nixon says we want 30.

[bumba]

We turned down 16, Nixon says we want 30.

We wanted 20 for Kompany and got 10, we want 30 but we'll accept 20 for Trafford

[Jakubs Tash]

Almost as strange as a fan in the dark saying we've rejected £20 million when he's no idea whether we have or haven't

Yeah, I’m as in the dark as you except you seem to know exactly how much we’ll sell for judging by some of your comments!! You’re a funny guy!

I think you’d argue black was white reading a lot of your posts on this forum!

My report of the rejected bid came from journos reporting it (£16m rising to £20m I think). If you search on social media you’ll find them.

[bumba]

Yeah, I’m as in the dark as you except you seem to know exactly how much we’ll sell for judging by some of your comments!! You’re a funny guy!

I think you’d argue black was white reading a lot of your posts on this forum!

My report of the rejected bid came from journos reporting it (£16m rising to £20m I think). If you search on social media you’ll find them.

Thanks I appreciate it your not the first to say I'm a funny guy, hilarious in fact
You could have just admitted your wrong that's what I love about this forum when somebody gets shown up they return trying to fire personal insults like I'm going to be offended

[Jakubs Tash]

Thanks I appreciate it your not the first to say I'm a funny guy, hilarious in fact
You could have just admitted your wrong that's what I love about this forum when somebody gets shown up they return trying to fire personal insults like I'm going to be offended

I think you need to re-read my posts if that’s your response.

[Passing Clouds]

No idea (especially about the full backs) but I’ll have a go with squad as it stands :-

4-2-3-1


Trafford

Vitinho
Esteve
O Shea
Pires

Cullen
Berge

Odobert
Brownhill/JBG/Amdouni/Zaroury
Koleosho

Foster

I do have this strong feeling though that someone up top to share the burden with Foster will pay real dividends (J Rod/ Obafemi). Up to how Parker wants to play it I guess…

[SalouClaret]

Muric to Ipswich for £10m rising to £15m.

Already turned down a deal of £20m from Newcastle for Trafford.

Suggests it won’t be too far off the figure I have mentioned.

We won't get £15m for Muric. We won't get £30m for Trafford.

[NewClaret]

We won't get £15m for Muric. We won't get £30m for Trafford.

The BBC have said we’ve got £10m rising to £15m with add ons for Muric, so it’s there or thereabouts.

What we’ll secure for Trafford I have no idea.

[aggi]

Our best 45 minutes of the last Championship season was without a heavyweight striker, away at sunderland
In the 1st half, with Barnes, we were dreadful

It was

Muric
Roberts THB Taylor Vitinho
Cullen JBG
Benson Brownhill Zaroury
Tella

Arguably our worst match as well though at Sheffield Utd.

[Roosterbooster]

Arguably our worst match as well though at Sheffield Utd.

I thought it was fairly even for the 1st 45 minutes. Then we capitulated in 10 minutes halfway through the 2nd half. We also didn't have brownhill playing. So I suppose the argument is that we've been both good and bad with and without a proper centre forward. Maybe just focusing on that aspect alone won't answer the question....

[houseboy]

Be absolutely gutted if as expected Muric leaves, but you can hardly blame him after his treatment last season. If Trafford goes as well then whatever people think we might need we definitely will need a bloody goalkeeper. If they both go we will be absolutely desperate.

[ArmchairDetective]

I'll have a go at this but of course lots could change over the next couple of weeks.

NEW
Vitinho O'Shea Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Odobert Berge Koleosho
Foster

Luton are a physical team. Could do with the three CM's to compete.

Against other opposition I might drop Brownhill, have Berge in CM and bring in another attacker in the 10.

Interested to see how Scotty sees it.

UTC

[ClaretTony]

Assuming a fairly quiet summer...Traff & Wout leave to balance the books...(£30m+VK money)

Muric
Vitinho O'shea Steve Pires
Berge Cullen
Tresor Odobert Koleosho
Amdouni

I did say I hope not when you posted this but I knew of the Muric situation.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Trafford

Samba oshea esteve pires

Cullen Brownhill

Benson Berge odabert

Foster

[Venkys4eva]

1. No idea (anyone but trafford)
2. - 11 No idea

[RVclaret]

——————————New
Vitinho——O’Shea——Esteve———Pires
—————————-Cullen
JBG———Berge————Brownhill—Koleosho
———————-Hountondji

New keeper, Beyer, Sambo, Massengo, Redmond, Benson, Rodriguez, Amdouni, Obafemi

New keeper as Traff will leave with Muric. I’ve heard Foster is likely to leave so I’ve gone with the new lad. Amdouni will have only just returned to training a week before so I’ve put him on the bench. Tresor is supposedly AWOL and expecting him to leave. Would love to put Odobert in there but fully anticipating he goes. Berge in there is more out of hope than anything. Be interesting to see how close we get.

[Ric_C]

Having obviously not seen any of the new signings, I'd give the tried and tested the nod for the trip to Luton

As it stands:

NEW
Vitinho O'shea Esteve Pires
Berge Cullen
Odobert Brownhill Koleosho
Foster

Subs: Jay Rod, Amdouni, Zaroury, Benson, Roberts, Massengo, JBG, Beyer, Hountdondji

[jedi_master]

I am going to assume that Odobert and Trafford will be sold and that we will sign Hladky:

---------------------Hladky
Vitinho-----O'Shea------Esteve----Pires
----------------Cullen---Berge
---Redmond-----Brownhill------Koleosho
----------------------Foster

Subs: Vigoroux, Sambo, Beyer, Massengo, Gudmundsson, Benson, Zaroury, Amdouni, Rodriguez

[RVclaret]

I am going to assume that Odobert and Trafford will be sold and that we will sign Hladky:

---------------------Hladky
Vitinho-----O'Shea------Esteve----Pires
----------------Cullen---Berge
---Redmond-----Brownhill------Koleosho
----------------------Foster

Subs: Vigoroux, Sambo, Beyer, Massengo, Gudmundsson, Benson, Zaroury, Amdouni, Rodriguez

No space for our new striker?

[Wokingclaret]

Didn't we hear Redmond won't be ready

Hladky: thought he's coming in as back up

[Wokingclaret]

——————————New
Vitinho——O’Shea——Esteve———Pires
—————————-Cullen
JBG———Berge————Brownhill—Koleosho
———————-Hountondji

New keeper, Beyer, Sambo, Massengo, Redmond, Benson, Rodriguez, Amdouni, Obafemi

New keeper as Traff will leave with Muric. I’ve heard Foster is likely to leave so I’ve gone with the new lad. Amdouni will have only just returned to training a week before so I’ve put him on the bench. Tresor is supposedly AWOL and expecting him to leave. Would love to put Odobert in there but fully anticipating he goes. Berge in there is more out of hope than anything. Be interesting to see how close we get.

Is Foster's agent the surprise that was causing trouble

[RVclaret]

Is Foster's agent the surprise that was causing trouble

Wasn’t me that said that but I did connect those dots myself when I heard about him likely leaving.

[jedi_master]

No space for our new striker?

Bloody forgot him, only took one day - yes I am sure we will get him on the bench.

[RVclaret]

Bloody forgot him, only took one day - yes I am sure we will get him on the bench.

Happens, realised I forgot Zaroury in my squad.

[ArmchairDetective]

I’ve heard Foster is likely to leave so I’ve gone with the new lad.

Where have you heard that RV? Surprised at that if so.

[ArmchairDetective]

Thought I'd bring this thread back up now we're only a week away.

Hladky
Roberts O'Shea Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Berge Odobert
Foster

Subs include Benson Zaroury Hout Vitinho Beyer Agyei Massengo

Can't see Trafford playing. I'd probably have started him if all was well though.