ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:45 pm
Time will tell with Trafford but he wasn’t helped last season with the ridiculous decision to leave him in as long as we did. He should, at the very least, have been given a break after a few games.

He conceded a lot of goals in the early games and then he seemed to suffer for that.

Having said that, he never managed to do what Muric did against Everton & Brighton.
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by superdimitri » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:45 pm
Time will tell with Trafford but he wasn’t helped last season with the ridiculous decision to leave him in as long as we did. He should, at the very least, have been given a break after a few games.

He conceded a lot of goals in the early games and then he seemed to suffer for that.

Having said that, he never managed to do what Muric did against Everton & Brighton.
He may not have, but he forced others into mistakes by loitering on the ball and making some poor passes. Whether it's because he's still very young or down to his stature the main issue I could see is a lack of commanding his area which will always be exploited by opposition.

If you're not great at handling you at least need to be aggressive and be able to come out and punch like Pickford or Mamardashvili.

I think he was very lucky to get so much faith put into him by Kompany. He should learn from those bad times. I just don't really see any evidence to show his potential. I hope he proves me wrong!
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by Row x » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:57 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens
That might have been true 30yrs ago, but now goalkeepers are better with their feet, most back passes go between the sticks, you only need to watch England, city, Liverpool etc to see proof.

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:58 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens
Two horrendous errors and the one at Wverton came after he’d got away with it twice. And the second one was downright shocking which I think Josh Cullen summed up better than I can.

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by beddie » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 pm

Two questions.
1: How tall is he.
2: Can he use his feet (no silly replies please) :D

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:58 pm
Two horrendous errors and the one at Wverton came after he’d got away with it twice. And the second one was downright shocking which I think Josh Cullen summed up better than I can.
Trafford made error after error in almost most game's especially on corners
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:03 pm

I think Trafford should go for three reasons.

The first is that he will bring in a lot of money, around £20m if reports are to be believed, and he's one of three players we've got who will command that sort of fee.

The second is that if he plays again and makes a mistake, the fans will be absolutely all over him. As others have said, he was absolutely hung out to dry by his so-called manager, but too many fans were all too willing to take the opportunity of having a pop at him.

The third is that we now have an experienced goalkeeper which is what we probably need above a developing youngster.

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:03 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 pm
Two questions.
1: How tall is he.
2: Can he use his feet (no silly replies please) :D
Yes he can use his feet

With a normal tape measure he's 6ft 4

With the tape measure they used on Trafford he's 7ft 3
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Post by Wembley09 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:07 pm

Good signing, especially with no transfer fee involved.
Agent fees/signing on bonuses.. but at least there's no transfer fee ontop aswell.

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:22 pm

Hladky should have come in last season when we were linked and been number 2 instead of spending the money on Trafford but we live and learn. I think it’s an excellent signing

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by SirBob » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:24 pm

I really hope we keep Trafford, baptism of fire last season and he was a rabbit in the headlights. If he’d of been dropped after 4 games and used in cup games only we wouldn’t be hounding him out now. Should have done this and loaned him out in January at a decent level go help him develop.

If anyone has dropped the ball on this one it’s BFC, such a massive shame as I don’t think we’ll get to see him develop into a very good goal keeper and a future England international.

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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:46 pm

Best signing so far. Free and no way he will be here as number 2.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:54 pm

If he's coming in as number one, maybe it means we already have a buyer lined up for Trafford.

Maybe...

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by Longsider » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:12 pm

SirBob wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:24 pm
I really hope we keep Trafford, baptism of fire last season and he was a rabbit in the headlights. If he’d of been dropped after 4 games and used in cup games only we wouldn’t be hounding him out now. Should have done this and loaned him out in January at a decent level go help him develop.

If anyone has dropped the ball on this one it’s BFC, such a massive shame as I don’t think we’ll get to see him develop into a very good goal keeper and a future England international.
Yes, I agree. Trafford is a great keeper in the making. He needs to be nurtured under Lady Penelope's bxtch and grow into our number 1 until we sell him for big money.

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:20 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens
Come on let’s be real here. A million to one chance? Blaming the back pass when it was a simple control .
I know this is the kind of stuff being peddled by some but nobody is taking it serious

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Post by burnley007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:31 pm

I would still love to see Trafford stay and become a Burnley legend.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:34 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens

Sorry, that's just wrong.
Everton: dithering on the ball unaware (i assume) of Calvert Lewin closing him down
Brighton: Back pass shouldn't be on target? Come on, my gran could have blocked that :D
add..
Spurs: Beaten at near post because he transfers his weight on to his right foot (gambles)
Muric is a very inconsistent goalkeeper to say the least. The way some people defend him is remarkable.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:34 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:52 pm
One goal was a million to one chance rebound and the other was a a bad control yes but that back pass should NEVER of been on target, it should be wide just incase that happens
Haha! Christ Almighty!!

So folks, you heard it here first, Muric was blameless for both of those goals. One was an act of God and the other a really bad back pass…..

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:35 pm

Longsider wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:12 pm
Yes, I agree. Trafford is a great keeper in the making. He needs to be nurtured under Lady Penelope's bxtch and grow into our number 1 until we sell him for big money.
I'd like to see him loaned out to a European club for half a season. Start with Hladky.

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Post by KlyBfc » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:37 pm

Not sure on this one personally. The times I watched Ipswich (got a mate who’s a town fan) he seemed to have mistake / error / heart stopping moment in him. I suppose not too dissimilar to our previous two keepers. So I’ll need to reserve judgement, but at the minute if it’s him or Trafford, I’d play Trafford as he’s younger with more potential.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:39 pm

Is Vigoroux off too?

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:42 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:00 pm
Trafford made error after error in almost most game's especially on corners
He didn’t though did he. Amazing how some people try and rewrite history. It does make me wonder how many of these Trafford boo boys actually watched him play.

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Post by vancouverclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:54 pm

Trafford is a good shot stopper he made some brilliant saves, his weakness is not commanding his area on corners and free kicks the Arsenal game a prime example

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:05 pm

vancouverclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:54 pm
Trafford is a good shot stopper he made some brilliant saves, his weakness is not commanding his area on corners and free kicks the Arsenal game a prime example

Green for sure, and weak on crosses.
But he didn't make many actual mistakes.
In fact he made plenty of very good saves.
A case of being too inexperienced for what we needed behind the weak defenders we had.

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Post by jos » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:08 pm

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It will be interesting to see who "yes melady" picks first game out.
This is a reference to Thunderbirds character’Parker’ I’m guessing, but I don’t know if it’s meant as a slight to our Manager being a puppet or not?

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:09 pm

vancouverclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:54 pm
Trafford is a good shot stopper he made some brilliant saves, his weakness is not commanding his area on corners and free kicks the Arsenal game a prime example
You can't command the area on corners if your surrounded by 3 or 4 big opposition lads because your idiot manager think it's better to mark zones. Get off Trafford's back. Also your keeper can't play out if your own players are pressed to hell because most PL managers know what they are doing.

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Post by Jel » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:20 pm

With regards to Kompanys belief in Trafford, I've not seen any interest from Bayern.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:24 pm

Jel wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:20 pm
With regards to Kompanys belief in Trafford, I've not seen any interest from Bayern.
They are probably stocked with keepers, plus the price may be a bit too high (if we are to believe the £20m that's getting punted around :D ).

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:26 pm

Hopefully we now have an experienced goalkeeper. And hope that puts an end to the weekly soap opera of rookie goalkeeper versus quirky goalkeeper. One that can confidently command his area or not feel the need to prance about it like he's Franz Beckenbouar.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:27 pm

Apparently has a very similar profile to Muric, so get ready for some prancing.

Good signing!

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Post by ecc » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:29 pm

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:29 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:26 pm
Hopefully we now have an experienced goalkeeper. And hope that puts an end to the weekly soap opera of rookie goalkeeper versus quirky goalkeeper. One that can confidently command his area or not feel the need to prance about it like he's Franz Beckenbouar.
A bit harsh, but not far off the truth. ;)

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Post by bumba » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:33 pm

vancouverclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:54 pm
Trafford is a good shot stopper he made some brilliant saves, his weakness is not commanding his area on corners and free kicks the Arsenal game a prime example
Kept hearing the myth about his shot stopping but failed to see it. He made maybe 3 big saves in nearly 30 games.
Murics shot stopping was streets ahead of Trafford.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:45 pm

Trafford made a lot of very good saves! I wasn’t his biggest fan and I think his biggest problem was not being able to command his box. But to say he hardly made any good saves suggests a clouded memory (or selective memory).

Anyway, good luck to Hladky! Hope he does well.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:11 pm

Good solid signing. Fully expect him to be No 1 keeper. Be good to have some experience between the sticks again ( along with a manager who sees the benefit of this).

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Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:14 pm

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Post by beddie » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:20 pm

In regards to Trafford did we ever find out if there was any truth in the rumour that under the terms of the deal (his contract) we had no choice but to play him every week, anyone know more?

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:38 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:20 pm
Come on let’s be real here. A million to one chance? Blaming the back pass when it was a simple control .
I know this is the kind of stuff being peddled by some but nobody is taking it serious
Thanks for your professional input Lizzie
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:39 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:34 pm
Sorry, that's just wrong.
Everton: dithering on the ball unaware (i assume) of Calvert Lewin closing him down
Brighton: Back pass shouldn't be on target? Come on, my gran could have blocked that :D
add..
Spurs: Beaten at near post because he transfers his weight on to his right foot (gambles)
Muric is a very inconsistent goalkeeper to say the least. The way some people defend him is remarkable.
And the way some slag him off is remarkable

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:40 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:34 pm
Haha! Christ Almighty!!

So folks, you heard it here first, Muric was blameless for both of those goals. One was an act of God and the other a really bad back pass…..
Glad you agree

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:42 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:42 pm
He didn’t though did he. Amazing how some people try and rewrite history. It does make me wonder how many of these Trafford boo boys actually watched him play.
I missed two game's home and away all season he played in, I know what I saw

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:42 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:39 pm
And the way some slag him off is remarkable
I think I'm right in saying that many of us were absolutely behind him.
Doesn't mean that he became some kind of goalkeeping icon... he wasn't.

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Post by bobinho » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:51 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:20 pm
In regards to Trafford did we ever find out if there was any truth in the rumour that under the terms of the deal (his contract) we had no choice but to play him every week, anyone know more?
Yep.
Kompany. Trafford. Traffords agent. Traffords dad.

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Post by NL Claret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:52 pm

Now is the time to move on from the GK debate of last season.

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Post by Firthy » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:55 pm

So we get Ipswich's goalie + £10m for Muric. Not a bad bit of business.
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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:03 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:51 pm
Yep.
Kompany. Trafford. Traffords agent. Traffords dad.
:D

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Post by bobinho » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:03 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:38 pm
Thanks for your professional input Lizzie
She doesn’t need to be professional to comment correctly on this.

The back pass shouldn’t have been on target, no question. But it was Murics fault it went in. Stevie Wonder could have trapped that…. No! Wait. Andre Gray could’ve trapped that ball, it was that simple.

Muric wasn’t half the keeper Trafford is. We will see that going forward. As far as Burnley performances are concerned, Muric was perfect for our style of play when we were over-running teams. When they attacked, there was always a goal in them. Set pieces and corners were a joke. Big lad like him should be wiping ‘em out on his way to collect the ball, instead we got Brian Jensen levels of courage from the “mad kosovan”. Better at football than keeping. Can’t wait to have a look at the Ipswich board come Xmas… :roll: :lol:

Trafford no better at commanding his box but his shot stopping was way better. Surely everyone can see his potential? Not clearly better than Muric, but better all the same.

Anyway, welcome Hladky. Get amongst ‘em lad.
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Post by Stonehouse » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:30 pm

We’re heading towards the 2024-25 season with only weeks to go can we please move on from the Trafford -Muric debate ,the bottom line was that Trafford was too immature to be playing in the Prem and Muric was an entertaining showman who could be brilliant one minute and a nightmare 5 minutes later, it’s all water under the bridge The Ego is no longer here let’s get behind whoever’s left and smash The Championship.
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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:54 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:57 pm
He may not have, but he forced others into mistakes by loitering on the ball and making some poor passes. Whether it's because he's still very young or down to his stature the main issue I could see is a lack of commanding his area which will always be exploited by opposition.

If you're not great at handling you at least need to be aggressive and be able to come out and punch like Pickford or Mamardashvili.

I think he was very lucky to get so much faith put into him by Kompany. He should learn from those bad times. I just don't really see any evidence to show his potential. I hope he proves me wrong!
This is exactly how I see it.

Didn't 'make mistakes' (hate that term in football) himself - just passed the buck on instead.

Welcome Hladky!

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Re: ARTICLE: Clarets add new goalkeeper with signing of Hladký

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:57 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:03 pm
She doesn’t need to be professional to comment correctly on this.

The back pass shouldn’t have been on target, no question. But it was Murics fault it went in. Stevie Wonder could have trapped that…. No! Wait. Andre Gray could’ve trapped that ball, it was that simple.

Muric wasn’t half the keeper Trafford is. We will see that going forward. As far as Burnley performances are concerned, Muric was perfect for our style of play when we were over-running teams. When they attacked, there was always a goal in them. Set pieces and corners were a joke. Big lad like him should be wiping ‘em out on his way to collect the ball, instead we got Brian Jensen levels of courage from the “mad kosovan”. Better at football than keeping. Can’t wait to have a look at the Ipswich board come Xmas… :roll: :lol:

Trafford no better at commanding his box but his shot stopping was way better. Surely everyone can see his potential? Not clearly better than Muric, but better all the same.

Anyway, welcome Hladky. Get amongst ‘em lad.
When we played Brentford at home the ball was spooning into the top corner of the net and Ivan Toney was running straight for the ball with Muric on his line (couldn't get any momentum because the ball was travelling so slowly). He stood there jumped and got absolutely clattered full pelt off Toney but again, put his body on the line for the cause - fully committed.

We didn't see anything of the like from Traff, anytime there was a potential of contact he shirked it and as for the 'shot stopping', the save %s speak for themself.

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