Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[123EasyasBFC]

Looking at the Girona video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Q6uCxEBC8

The only main players I couldn't spot were:

Tresor
Trafford
Amdouni
Weghorst

Trafford is in the day one training video

[RicardoMontalban]

Maybe but I think it might have been Casper?

Picture 4 on the Day One gallery on the official site. Stood next to Bastien.

[Woodleyclaret]

It's disappointing Amdouni has not returned he's having a longer holiday than an MP

[123EasyasBFC]

It's disappointing Amdouni has not returned he's having a longer holiday than an MP

Why’s it disappointing? Unless he’s just not turned up it will be an agreed time frame with the club

[Woodleyclaret]

Imo it seems reasonable for him to be back it's weeks since Switzerland got knocked out.

[NewClaret]

Imo it seems reasonable for him to be back it's weeks since Switzerland got knocked out.

I think when international football ends on TV is not necessarily when it ends for the players - i.e. they don’t necessarily leave camp the next day with some period of final training/tournament evaluation and travelling home together before being released.

I think it’s important for players to have 3-4 weeks off after a n intense season and in his case lots of international football. He probably hasn’t had a weekend off football for 12 months.

But he posted on Instagram last night with the photo’s of his summer holidays, so hopefully that’s a sign he’s gearing up to rejoin the team in Spain.

[jackmiggins]

Can’t believe the club hasn’t agreed Amdouni’s return date with you?

[Jakubclaret]

Imo it seems reasonable for him to be back it's weeks since Switzerland got knocked out.

Generally speaking they get paid that much money they can't afford extra time off unlike most of the working population that need to get back or have to rein in the finances whilst away. It's no surprise to me, it's more of a surprise that most seem to get back when they are supposed to & don't take extended holidays.

[NewClaret]

Can’t believe the club hasn’t agreed Amdouni’s return date with you?

He will have agreed his return date.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think when international football ends on TV is not necessarily when it ends for the players - i.e. they don’t necessarily leave camp the next day with some period of final training/tournament evaluation and travelling home together before being released.

I think it’s important for players to have 3-4 weeks off after a n intense season and in his case lots of international football. He probably hasn’t had a weekend off football for 12 months.

But he posted on Instagram last night with the photo’s of his summer holidays, so hopefully that’s a sign he’s gearing up to rejoin the team in Spain.

Pretty sure the Swiss team dismantled 3 day after they were knocked out.

Think it was Xhaka who was posting photos on holiday then

[agreenwood]

Tresor update. Loan makes sense. Might help him get his value back up…

https://t.co/fCrZaKVlW8

[Pearcey]

Agreed about the Tresor loan. Makes sense but it’s bizarre to spend that much to loan him out straight away. Complete shambles.

[claretskeith]

It is what it is re: Tresor if he doesn't want to stay. It doesn't mention loan so we could still get our money back on him. Time will tell.

[agreenwood]

Agreed about the Tresor loan. Makes sense but it’s bizarre to spend that much to loan him out straight away. Complete shambles.

Well, aye, but we were committed to buying him long before we did. It’s not as if we took the decision to buy him last week and then decided to loan him out.

It’s been a poor deal though, i agree.

[agreenwood]

It is what it is re: Tresor if he doesn't want to stay. It doesn't mention loan so we could still get our money back on him. Time will tell.

The supporting article mentions that a loan is the likely outcome.

[RVclaret]

Loan is the worst outcome isn’t it really. Kompany’s worst signing by far.

[agreenwood]

Loan is the worst outcome isn’t it really. Kompany’s worst signing by far.

They either try and sell him now for far less than we’ve just paid or they keep hold of him in the hope that a loan boots his value and try and sell him next summer.

I think in the current circumstances a loan is the best outcome.

[Pearcey]

Loan is the worst outcome isn’t it really. Kompany’s worst signing by far.

Not really. As AG says it could boost his value if he does well.

[123EasyasBFC]

Puts to bed all the people sticking up for him, he clearly didn’t and doesn’t want to be a Burnley player

[Big Vinny K]

Loan is the worst outcome isn’t it really. Kompany’s worst signing by far.

I’d say seeing his name on the burnley team sheet would be a worse outcome

[RVclaret]

Not really. As AG says it could boost his value if he does well.

We obviously need to balance books now and losing our better players on loan is not ideal, as it means we likely have to sell our other better players.

[ClaretAL]

It sounds like a Wout situation all over again.

[fatboy47]

Not really. As AG says it could boost his value if he does well.

The best way to boost his value is to be part of a team that p1sses the championship.

[NickBFC]

It sounds like a Wout situation all over again.

Agree. Can see him going on loan somewhere, not pulling any trees up then we're in the same situation next summer with a year less on his contract. If we could recoup a decent amount for him I'd be selling and taking the risk he isn't going to suddenly rocket in value down the line.

[123EasyasBFC]

We might be lucky and get our money back, arsenal are getting over 30m for ESR who hasn’t played for 12 months and has a shocking injury record

[KRBFC]

Agree. Can see him going on loan somewhere, not pulling any trees up then we're in the same situation next summer with a year less on his contract. If we could recoup a decent amount for him I'd be selling and taking the risk he isn't going to suddenly rocket in value down the line.

I think people are forgetting there’s loan fees, I’d be surprised if we didn’t recoup close to our transfer fee on Weghorst from his various loans. For example it was reported United paid £2m fee to loan him.

[ClaretTony]

Looking at the Girona video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Q6uCxEBC8

The only main players I couldn't spot were:

Tresor
Trafford
Amdouni
Weghorst

Trafford definitely there. Seen early in the day two video walking with Beyer.

[Big Vinny K]

I think people are forgetting there’s loan fees, I’d be surprised if we didn’t recoup close to our transfer fee on Weghorst from his various loans. For example it was reported United paid £2m fee to loan him.

Think United paid a £2.6m loan fee to us but we had the vast majority of that to pay to Beskitas.

Not really sure how overall we come out of the Wout deal - I think as you say the loan fees can be pretty significant but not sure how far they go in covering the transfer fee, plus the agents fees, plus Wout’s signing on fee etc. I’d imagine we still end up a few million down for a player who will hardly kick a ball for us over his 4 year contract.

Problem with Tresor is that we paid a lot more for him than Wout and I doubt whether he is worth anywhere as much in terms of loan fees given his previous experience and track record compared to WW.

[TsarBomba]

Fab reporting West Ham have agreed terms with Summerville from Leeds, just need a fee agreed between clubs.

Good news for us if this goes through.

[Big Vinny K]

Fab reporting West Ham have agreed terms with Summerville from Leeds, just need a fee agreed between clubs.

Good news for us if this goes through.

Definitely good news. He was easily their best player last season.

[Elizabeth]

We might be lucky and get our money back, arsenal are getting over 30m for ESR who hasn’t played for 12 months and has a shocking injury record

ESR is two classes above anything we’ve seen in our midfield for many seasons. How bad is his ‘shocking injury record’ ?

[123EasyasBFC]

ESR is two classes above anything we’ve seen in our midfield for many seasons. How bad is his ‘shocking injury record’ ?

The point was over 30m for someone who hasnt really played for 12 months

TOTAL
Season
Injuries
Games missed
23/24 10
22/23 21
20/21 30
19/20 36
18/19 35

I would the above amount of games missed due to injuries isn’t good for someone who has only just turned 24

[claretskeith]

Fab reporting West Ham have agreed terms with Summerville from Leeds, just need a fee agreed between clubs.

Good news for us if this goes through.

Yes, very good news. That'll be arguably their 2 best players gone.

[Stonehouse]

I’d say seeing his name on the burnley team sheet would be a worse outcome

Still see VK bringing him on against Luton when we needed a bit of grit to scrape a win and we know how that went.

[123EasyasBFC]

Yes, very good news. That'll be arguably their 2 best players gone.

Archie Gray one of their best two players? I think he’s been extremely over valued because he’s home grown and family have all played for Leeds

[TsarBomba]

West Brom selling Thomas-Asante, Townsend and Yokuslu for barely £4M.

Devante Cole coming in on a free to replace Thomas-Asante.

Doesn’t suggest they’ll be a force next season.

[TsarBomba]

Archie Gray one of their best two players? I think he’s been extremely over valued because he’s home grown and family have all played for Leeds

Gray was ridiculously good last season whenever I saw him.

Definitely a huge loss.

[claretskeith]

Gray was ridiculously good last season whenever I saw him.

Definitely a huge loss.

Yep. I was very impressed with him. Players such as Gnonto were far too inconsistent.

[123EasyasBFC]

Gray was ridiculously good last season whenever I saw him.

Definitely a huge loss.

I don’t think they will miss him, they got 35m for a guy they played right back most of the season. He didn’t even get into their midfield

[AGENT_CLARET]

Plenty of clubs across Europe chasing the crap (accordingly to most on here) Burnley player

https://getfootballnewsbene.com/multipl ... ke-tresor/

[BigGaz]

West Brom selling Thomas-Asante, Townsend and Yokuslu for barely £4M.

Devante Cole coming in on a free to replace Thomas-Asante.

Doesn’t suggest they’ll be a force next season.

Goodness knows what their fans must be thinking.

They thought they were rescued and ready to be a force again under the new owners.

Devante Cole,confirmed, deary me. a decent standard L2 player for most of his career but utter dross for a club of Albion's stature and aspirations, what on earths happening there.

[Big Vinny K]

Plenty of clubs across Europe chasing the crap (accordingly to most on here) Burnley player

https://getfootballnewsbene.com/multipl ... ke-tresor/

Aye - real quality website that.

Even if there is any truth in that sketchy report I cannot see any of the bigger teams in those countries being interested in Tresor and I can’t see many of the smaller teams being able to afford him.

As for ‘most on here’ thinking he is crap then we can only go off what we saw on the pitch for Burnley. Does not mean he is a crap player just that he has been poor for Burnley.

[Guller Bull]

The best way to boost his value is to be part of a team that p1sses the championship.

I would love to see him assimilated into the squad and given a chance at this level to show his worth. There has to be more to him than what we saw.

[NewClaret]

Aye - real quality website that.

Even if there is any truth in that sketchy report I cannot see any of the bigger teams in those countries being interested in Tresor and I can’t see many of the smaller teams being able to afford him.

As for ‘most on here’ thinking he is crap then we can only go off what we saw on the pitch for Burnley. Does not mean he is a crap player just that he has been poor for Burnley.

He’s definitely not a crap player. You don’t deliver the numbers he did in Belgium if you’re crap. We just didn’t get the best out of him and/or the pace and physicality of the premier league (which is unrivaled in other leagues) was a step too much for him.

I’d like to see him raise his value with us in the Championship but don’t see a natural place for him without outgoings - players I’d much rather keep - so a sale at break even thereabouts or a loan with loan fee would also be fine with me.

[RVclaret]

Aye - real quality website that.

The website is quoting HLN reporter Bob Faesen on this who was the one who reported Tresor to us in the first place, so it can be considered very reliable.

[BigGaz]

He’s definitely not a crap player. You don’t deliver the numbers he did in Belgium if you’re crap. We just didn’t get the best out of him and/or the pace and physicality of the premier league (which is unrivaled in other leagues) was a step too much for him.

I’d like to see him raise his value with us in the Championship but don’t see a natural place for him without outgoings - players I’d much rather keep - so a sale at break even thereabouts or a loan with loan fee would also be fine with me.

You ever heard of a bloke called Alfonso Alves? Mateja Kezman?

[mdd2]

West Brom selling Thomas-Asante, Townsend and Yokuslu for barely £4M.

Devante Cole coming in on a free to replace Thomas-Asante.

Doesn’t suggest they’ll be a force next season.

Charlie Austin going to QPR and Dyche bringing Heaton Arfield and Jones in on frees with Kightly on loan
They will be in a relegation scrap for sure
No money top striker gone and three rejects

[wilks_bfc]

Think United paid a £2.6m loan fee to us but we had the vast majority of that to pay to Beskitas.

If I recall correctly, United paid the fee to we had to refund to Besiktas + the loan fee

[Jakubs Tash]

Think United paid a £2.6m loan fee to us but we had the vast majority of that to pay to Beskitas.

Not really sure how overall we come out of the Wout deal - I think as you say the loan fees can be pretty significant but not sure how far they go in covering the transfer fee, plus the agents fees, plus Wout’s signing on fee etc. I’d imagine we still end up a few million down for a player who will hardly kick a ball for us over his 4 year contract.

There will have been loan fees from Besiktas, Manchester United and Hoffenheim. I’m sure Besiktas will have had to be compensated to a certain level but there’s no way that Burnley football club, as a business, would sanction a deal just for the romance of it.

I think if we can somehow manage to get €5-6m for Weghorst (which I think is realistic) then this is not a bad result.

[Swizzlestick]

Wasn’t there something weird where United paid both us and Besiktas?