Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Guller Bull]

Other clubs interested in McNally as a single item so we don't need to do a BOGOF deal to get value. If it works as a deal with Bristol City then grand but no need to give away good talent. These are both players that could feature heavily in most Championship teams. We may need them imminently if we suddenly lose a glut of our higher valued players late in the window (Esteve, Odebert, Berge, O'Shea, Wout etc), who have all interest. Suddenly if those 5 or others went went then we would be light.

[Goody1975]

Edited due to board being tidied up.

[Goody1975]

Anyway, moving on.....

I can see the Wout deal dragging on till late in the window as he will end up back in Holland. It's just a case of us getting the maximum fee possible.

[Woodleyclaret]

Re Wout it's a case of getting him out off the wage bill.I thought he was on the way to Turkey last week it seems to be dragging on.

[Guller Bull]

From some of the links it seemed that Wout had his house sorted and everything in Trabzon.

I did a quick google map images of Trabzon and it looks bloody stunning. Wouldn’t blame him one jot.

[DCWat]

From some of the links it seemed that Wout had his house sorted and everything in Trabzon.

I did a quick google map images of Trabzon and it looks bloody stunning. Wouldn’t blame him one jot.

Just had a look myself, on the back of your post, it really does look stunning.

[Selby Claret]

Most Google images for Trabzon are of Uzungol Lake which is about 1h45 away - the city is actually on the Black Sea and nowhere near as pretty

Bit like advertising Blackpool as the Lake District

[claretskeith]

Most Google images for Trabzon are of Uzungol Lake which is about 1h45 away - the city is actually on the Black Sea and nowhere near as pretty

Bit like advertising Blackpool as the Lake District

Shussshhh... he might read this board.

[BigChaCha]

Trabzon is an area I have already carried out some research on as I am looking to purchase a property in that part of the world and the Black Sea part of Turkey seems to be good value...

The best way I have found to get a feel for a place is to type into YouTube 'town/city walking tour'...

Here are a couple of walking tours of Trabzon -

https://youtu.be/kmA-jsODZxs?si=sSJYmUZvGjBa-PvX

https://youtu.be/axRNZUvWwGQ?si=Iw28-q3QV37gAuVU

[Quicknick]

Most Google images for Trabzon are of Uzungol Lake which is about 1h45 away - the city is actually on the Black Sea and nowhere near as pretty

Bit like advertising Blackpool as the Lake District

That's funny.

[RVclaret]

Esteve not on Wolves list of targets according to their local reporter.

[Lord_Bob]

Hope we keep Esteve. Of all potential leavers - O'Shea, Berge, Odobert - he's the key one to me. LCB's are as rare as hens teeth. We got away playing Beyer there last time in the Champ, but then he got found out on the PL.

Any combo of Beyer / Esteve, Al Dakhil/ Esteve, Ekdahl / Esteve would be really, really good in the Championship and with a year's experience, good enough for the PL.

If Esteve goes then it's either Delcroix, or play a RCB at LCB, which is less than ideal.

[warksclaret]

Hope we keep Esteve. Of all potential leavers - O'Shea, Berge, Odobert - he's the key one to me. LCB's are as rare as hens teeth. We got away playing Beyer there last time in the Champ, but then he got found out on the PL.

Any combo of Beyer / Esteve, Al Dakhil/ Esteve, Ekdahl / Esteve would be really, really good in the Championship and with a year's experience, good enough for the PL.

If Esteve goes then it's either Delcroix, or play a RCB at LCB, which is less than ideal.

We have a good pool of centre backs-for me the cream pairing are OShea & Esteve. If we keep both they may well be the stand-out pairing in the Division. What I like about both is whist they are tough in the tackle and brave, they stay injury free.Both are also very quick. Sadly whilst Beyer had some wonderful games in the Championship, it does not take much for him to come off injured, then remain injury for very lengthy games. Its almost as if we would not miss him now, but sadly because he has played so few games in 12 months, there is probably no interest in him. Sadly for me Beyer, Delcroix, Al Dakhill and Ekdal seem to be an injury waiting to happen. The three players I don't want to leave are Oshea, Esteve and Berge. Even if Odobert attracts big money, Koleosho and Benny can deputise, and all over the pitch we now seem to have cover

[Quicknick]

We have a good pool of centre backs-for me the cream pairing are OShea & Esteve. If we keep both they may well be the stand-out pairing in the Division. What I like about both is whist they are tough in the tackle and brave, they stay injury free.Both are also very quick. Sadly whilst Beyer had some wonderful games in the Championship, it does not take much for him to come off injured, then remain injury for very lengthy games. Its almost as if we would not miss him now, but sadly because he has played so few games in 12 months, there is probably no interest in him. Sadly for me Beyer, Delcroix, Al Dakhill and Ekdal seem to be an injury waiting to happen. The three players I don't want to leave are Oshea, Esteve and Berge. Even if Odobert attracts big money, Koleosho and Benny can deputise, and all over the pitch we now seem to have cover

Agree with all this, warks.

[bobinho]

Hope we keep Esteve. Of all potential leavers - O'Shea, Berge, Odobert - he's the key one to me. LCB's are as rare as hens teeth. We got away playing Beyer there last time in the Champ, but then he got found out on the PL.

Any combo of Beyer / Esteve, Al Dakhil/ Esteve, Ekdahl / Esteve would be really, really good in the Championship and with a year's experience, good enough for the PL.

If Esteve goes then it's either Delcroix, or play a RCB at LCB, which is less than ideal.

So we don’t have centre backs anymore, we just have left centre backs and right centre backs? When did that happen?
So everyone who plays on the left side of the pitch has to be left footed, and everyone who plays on the right has to be right footed?
Wow…. Things really have changed. Who decided all this?

[warksclaret]

I think Bobinho that Lord Bob was simply making the point that left footed centre backs are rarer than right footed. If you can get one of each playing on a regular basis ie Tarks & Mee then you have the optimum pairing. There are of course many top teams play with two right footed centre backs for the reason above

[Ric_C]

So we don’t have centre backs anymore, we just have left centre backs and right centre backs? When did that happen?
So everyone who plays on the left side of the pitch has to be left footed, and everyone who plays on the right has to be right footed?
Wow…. Things really have changed. Who decided all this?

Few good examples of this

Tarks had to play LCB to cover one of Mee's injuries for a while, and he looked really uncomfortable there.

Last season Ekdal had to play LCB against Fulham at home (I think) and was terrible. He got taken off at HT

[bobinho]

I think Bobinho that Lord Bob was simply making the point that left footed centre backs are rarer than right footed. If you can get one of each playing on a regular basis ie Tarks & Mee then you have the optimum pairing. There are of course many top teams play with two right footed centre backs for the reason above

Yep, fully get that, I’m just wondering when it became something like the holy grail? It’s just that of all the great (good) centre half pairings from history, the vast majority have two right footers… I don’t remember it ever being a “thing”.

[BigGaz]

Center back pairings needing to be one left footed and one right are right up there with other really prominent modern footballing tropes such as

Shirt numbers should be 1-11
The gaffer should be able to have a pall mall on the sideline side if he fancies
Shinpads are for the weak

Etc

[jojomk1]

So we don’t have centre backs anymore, we just have left centre backs and right centre backs? When did that happen?
So everyone who plays on the left side of the pitch has to be left footed, and everyone who plays on the right has to be right footed?
Wow…. Things really have changed. Who decided all this?

Nothing has really changed
In the main, natural right footed players can still be quite adept using their left foot
Whereas left footed players seem to struggle more going onto their right hand side
Tarks did not look as comfortable when covering for Mee on the left of centre and Ben really looked weak on his right hand side
Same with our wide men
Benson and JBG come inside about 90% of the time rather than go down to the line to cross with the right foot - even Koleosho did not look anywhere near as effective when moved to the right side

[JimmyRobbo]

It's really quite simple, a naturally left footed player receives the ball in a way that opens up the left hand side and helps keep shape of his own team and also the opposition can't so easily read and shut down one side.

Nothing new. It's always been the case. It doesn't make it impossible to have players on their wrong foot but it helps with shape. Shape is much more important than people realise.

[GetIntoEm]

Looks like Leeds are selling Somerville to west ham. Massively weakens them imo

[NewClaret]

Looks like Leeds are selling Somerville to west ham. Massively weakens them imo

It definitely does but you’d imagine they have some money to spend now, so depends how they use it!

[Pearcey]

Galatasaray have bid over £20m for Gabriel Sara at Norwich. There’s obviously money knocking about in Turkey. Norwich would miss him.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Galatasaray have bid over £20m for Gabriel Sara at Norwich. There’s obviously money knocking about in Turkey. Norwich would miss him.

I don’t know if there tv rights have significantly gone up but I believe Bein in the last few months bought the rights to show there footy

[FeedTheArf]

Sheff United selling a guy called Osula (no, me either) to Newcastle for £20m should boost their coffers for some incomings.

[CoolClaret]

We have a good pool of centre backs-for me the cream pairing are OShea & Esteve. If we keep both they may well be the stand-out pairing in the Division. What I like about both is whist they are tough in the tackle and brave, they stay injury free.Both are also very quick. Sadly whilst Beyer had some wonderful games in the Championship, it does not take much for him to come off injured, then remain injury for very lengthy games. Its almost as if we would not miss him now, but sadly because he has played so few games in 12 months, there is probably no interest in him. Sadly for me Beyer, Delcroix, Al Dakhill and Ekdal seem to be an injury waiting to happen. The three players I don't want to leave are Oshea, Esteve and Berge. Even if Odobert attracts big money, Koleosho and Benny can deputise, and all over the pitch we now seem to have cover

Spot on.

Add in Cullen & Brownhill in midfield with Berge and that spine is as good as anything ever at this level. The makings of a very strong team, even if we have one or two others leave.

[RVclaret]

Sheff United selling a guy called Osula (no, me either) to Newcastle for £20m should boost their coffers for some incomings.

Seen Osula a fair bit and I’m astonished he’s going for 15m+5m to Newcastle. He’s scored 1 goal outside of League One. Has physical attributes and some potential because of that but jeez, kinda puts into perspective the type of fees we should be attracting for ours.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I thought he was a bit of a shining light for Sheffield last season (not hard tbh haha)

Looks to have raw talent and the physical attributes to be a good striker. However that is mind blowing money to be spending on him right now.

Newcastle are probably in the position where they can take a 15m punt on a striker. Wouldn’t be surprised if they loan him back to Sheffield for the season

[billyhamilton82]

Seen Osula a fair bit and I’m astonished he’s going for 15m+5m to Newcastle. He’s scored 1 goal outside of League One. Has physical attributes and some potential because of that but jeez, kinda puts into perspective the type of fees we should be attracting for ours.

Still an incredibly high price but they are now quoting its £10m up front plus £5m in add ons.

Even the Sheff Utd fans are shocked but Eddie Howe isn't afraid of splashing the cash on young talent if he sees something in them.

Usually gets it right to be fair, although theres always a chance he could be the next Jordan Ibe.

[Silkyskills1]

'Eddie Howe isn't afraid of splashing the cash'

Well, he wouldn't be would he? Plenty to splash and so far apart from an aborted attempt in the Champions League little to show for it. Candidate for next national manager? With that to show one would expect so.

[Woodleyclaret]

Eddie didn't splash the cash with the joke fee we got for Nick Pope.

[bumba]

We have a good pool of centre backs-for me the cream pairing are OShea & Esteve. If we keep both they may well be the stand-out pairing in the Division. What I like about both is whist they are tough in the tackle and brave, they stay injury free.Both are also very quick. Sadly whilst Beyer had some wonderful games in the Championship, it does not take much for him to come off injured, then remain injury for very lengthy games. Its almost as if we would not miss him now, but sadly because he has played so few games in 12 months, there is probably no interest in him. Sadly for me Beyer, Delcroix, Al Dakhill and Ekdal seem to be an injury waiting to happen. The three players I don't want to leave are Oshea, Esteve and Berge. Even if Odobert attracts big money, Koleosho and Benny can deputise, and all over the pitch we now seem to have cover

I raved about Beyer in the promotion season I told neutral fans he'd go to a top team but how injury prone he is I can't see that happening now and I'd cash in on him, I'd rather sell Beyer and Ekdal and keep Delcroix and Al Dakhil.
I'd sell Odobert if it meant keeping others too.

[TsarBomba]

Selling players for peanuts, and now West Brom being placed under a transfer embargo (of sorts).

Can’t see Corberan sticking around.

https://x.com/skyfootball/status/181970 ... 33109?s=46

[bobinho]

Eddie didn't splash the cash with the joke fee we got for Nick Pope.

Fair point, it irked me too. The business we did with Newcastle seemed strange at the time.
I managed to put it to bed by adding Popes fee to Woods fee, then making up my own truth. Slept like a baby when I decided we got £30m for Nick…

[BigGaz]

Gobsmacked about that. Many including myself had them down to be troubling the business end of the table, and their fans had been given reason to be optimistic by their new owners.

They've sold some decent first teamers for bargain prices which is fair enough after a second glance as it appears they were either running their contracts down or beginning to outlive their usefulness to the team but they most certainly haven't yet replaced them with like for like quality.

There's a lot been said about our performances last season but over he past 15 years we've been very lucky that there's always been a bit of excitement. We might go down, we might go up.

These lot are neither gonna go down or up. Just staring down a season of purgatory before they even start which is depressing. How lucky we've been.

[agreenwood]

Looks like we’re signing Etienne Green, an English goalkeeper who has been playing for St Etienne in France.

Free transfer, but with a sell on for St Etienne.

https://t.co/8VY2PtPPrx

[123EasyasBFC]

Looks like we’re signing Etienne Green, an English goalkeeper who has been playing for St Etienne in France.

Free transfer, but with a sell on for St Etienne.

https://t.co/8VY2PtPPrx

An English man called etienne playing for st. Etienne in France hahaha

[agreenwood]

Looks like we’re signing Etienne Green, an English goalkeeper who has been playing for St Etienne in France.

Free transfer, but with a sell on for St Etienne.

https://t.co/8VY2PtPPrx

Also being reported by Lequipe..


https://t.co/qtVZkx5ffE

[Boxy]

Jokes aside this is good pick up! England u21 player

[agreenwood]

An English man called etienne playing for st. Etienne in France hahaha

Ha, I know.

Apparently has an English dad and French mum. Lived over there since he was 4. Has been called by England U21s, but largely a back up at St Etienne.

Presumably coming in as cover.

[RVclaret]

Does he count as homegrown under EFL rules? I don’t think so because he hasn’t been trained by a UK based club but might be wrong, as he is British so it may not matter.

[Murger]

I wonder if that means Hladky will be number 1?

[randomclaret2]

Looks like we’re signing Etienne Green, an English goalkeeper who has been playing for St Etienne in France.

Free transfer, but with a sell on for St Etienne.

https://t.co/8VY2PtPPrx

And they wear Green

[warksclaret]

Things are starting to take shape-at least on the incoming front. Hopefully we start to see some movement in the other direction too before too many players start getting disappointed at not even getting close to the starting squad v Luton in 9 days time

[Boxy]

I wonder if that means Hladky will be number 1?

1- trafford 2-halcky 3-green as it stands

[mdd2]

Reminds me a bit of Bailey P-Farrell in looks/stance from a Wiki Pic. Not played much first team stuff as far as I can see.

[Hipper]

An English man called etienne playing for st. Etienne in France hahaha

Surely Forest Green are in for him.

[Owdsyker]

An English man called etienne playing for st. Etienne in France hahaha

St Etienne who play in green, incidentally.

[123EasyasBFC]

Club have probably looked at Casper and Waller and thought they are too young to be number 3 keeper this season