Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[123EasyasBFC]

Didn't ours though have to come through a company that recommended them to fit in with our business model of buy andcsell for a profit later, it just hasn't worked.

So you are changing your point now and not making sense, you said the fees we are receiving for players bought under kompany, when the facts are at the moment the only kompany signing we have sold we have actually made profit on.

Agreeing with the model of using a certain analytics company is a completely different argument

[Murger]

Stop lying, you haven’t forgotten anything I have ever said on here. You probably have sticky notes all around your house of my posts.

The only thing that’s sticky are your posters of VK.

[bfcjg]

So you are changing your point now and not making sense, you said the fees we are receiving for players bought under kompany, when the facts are at the moment the only kompany signing we have sold we have actually made profit on.

Agreeing with the model of using a certain analytics company is a completely different argument

Conflict of interest though he managed us and was a director of the company, if you think we will make profits on the majority of players Kompany signed via MUD you are in for a surprise.

[123EasyasBFC]

Conflict of interest though he managed us and was a director of the company, if you think we will make profits on the majority of players Kompany signed via MUD you are in for a surprise.

Again that’s a different argument, you made out like we are making loses on all the players kompany has signed which simply isn’t true, the only one we have sold we have made profit on. We will likely make profit on Trafford, O’Shea, esteve, Berge, odobert and koleosho when they are all eventually sold. Of course we will make loses on some signings like every club does.

Do you think man United are going to make a profit on Antony, maguire or Casemiro?

[bfcjg]

Did they sign via a company owned by the manager ?

[jlup1980]

The one thing I’m conscious of this time, is the fact we are going to have very few experienced premier league players in the starting eleven.

Last time we had Brownhill, Cork and Barnes featuring nearly every game. With contributions from JBG, Taylor and Jay. That side of our squad last time can’t be underestimated. I think Barnes and Cork in particular will be massive misses. They kept things simple that allowed the flair players to shine.

I would love it if we signed someone like a Jonjo Shelvey, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes type of player. I think that type of player would be absolutely critical to our success this season.

I've been beating this drum for a long time!! We were a perfect blend in Kompany's first season. The likes of Muric, Tella, THB, Maatsen, Beyer, Zaroury, Benson etc worked perfectly alongside the experience of Roberts, Brownhill, Cork, Taylor, Barnes, JBG and Jay. This was one of my biggest issues with last season. We didn't have the same balance and it showed massively.

Anyone suggesting we can lose players like Roberts, O'Shea and Brownhill aren't looking at the bigger picture. These are the lads we should be building the team around, not getting rid of. Their experience and leadership will be vital.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Looking at the figures we are being offered for some of Kompany's signings and the losses we will make, could legal action be taken against MUD analytical for compensation for misrepresentation or potential fraudulent activities because I've never witnessed such a financially disastrous transfer activity in my lifetime watching Burnley.

You think we should be looking into legal action due to the amounts of money a club has offered to sign a player ?

How would it work ? Hi we signed a player for 12m and someone has said we will give you 8m we haven't accepted the bid but would like to know what possible legal action we should now take against the previous manager who wanted the player.

Do we also give the same people you want legal action taken against the profit for any players we make a profit on ? Or do we keep the profit of any transfers and sue for any loss we make ?

[123EasyasBFC]

Did they sign via a company owned by the manager ?

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with it, the point is we will make profit on some and loses on others as every club does

[Woodleyclaret]

I accept some losses but not old school Burnley free gifts where players leave for a pittance
Odebert has to stay him and Koleosho will rip up the Championship. Wout and Tressor can leave on a free to get them off the wage bill .

[claretonthecoast1882]

I accept some losses but not old school Burnley free gifts where players leave for a pittance
Odebert has to stay him and Koleosho will rip up the Championship. Wout and Tressor can leave on a free to get them off the wage bill .

Which free gifts are you thinking of ?

Then in the next same sentence you say give Tresor a free

[TheFamilyCat]

Did they sign via a company owned by the manager ?

Explain what you mean by "sign via" MUD? What part do you think MUD played?

[Row x]

I accept some losses but not old school Burnley free gifts where players leave for a pittance
Odebert has to stay him and Koleosho will rip up the Championship. Wout and Tressor can leave on a free to get them off the wage bill .

Tresor on a free? Since when can we give away 18 million quid?

[NewClaret]

I accept some losses but not old school Burnley free gifts where players leave for a pittance
Odebert has to stay him and Koleosho will rip up the Championship. Wout and Tressor can leave on a free to get them off the wage bill .

There’s no way an international striker that’s just played in the Euro’s will be leaving for free. We’ll be getting a decent fee for him and probably won’t be far off break even or a profit when he eventually goes, given he won’t have fulfilled any of his add-ons and we’ve had decent loan fees.

Re: Tresor, I’m guessing a loan with fee will be our goal. I have no idea if he’s returned or why not, but it seems very stupid of him if he hasn’t, particularly given we have a new manager and the one that froze him out has left.

[claretskeith]

Re: Tresor, I’m guessing a loan with fee will be our goal. I have no idea if he’s returned or why not, but it seems very stupid of him if he hasn’t, particularly given we have a new manager and the one that froze him out has left.

I hope he isn't being paid. Not turning up is surely a breach of his contract.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Can’t believe you’re still so obsessed, it’s been 10 years

Pretty weak defence that. Perhaps you should sign Michael Keane and look to strengthen it.

[Blyclaret]

I think SP has been hampered by Kompany over sized squad. Now the board are selling the best of them leaving SP with the rest and no signings are his … feel the affects of Kompany will be felt for the immediate future and maybe longer.

[NewClaret]

Tresor on a free? Since when can we give away 18 million quid?

Euros, but yes, absolutely no way we would let him go for free.

When you see posts like this it does make you glad we’re not a fan run club

[NewClaret]

I hope he isn't being paid. Not turning up is surely a breach of his contract.

Depends really whether it’s by mutual agreement.

There were some rumours (which I hope were not true) that we tried to back out of the deal, in which case we may’ve agreed he doesn’t return while we find a new club.

If not, it’d be a disciplinary issue and we’d be fining him.

I hope he’s back in training though.

[Row x]

Euros, but yes, absolutely no way we would let him go for free.

When you see posts like this it does make you glad we’re not a fan run club

Good grief, could you imagine that

[Blyclaret]

Everyone saying we have the strongest squad in championship.
In my opinion SP has been handed a **** sandwich. Dont be too critical.

[warksclaret]

Do we think Tresor is still being paid-no one seems to know where he is-you could ask the same about Weghorst

[Row Z]

I accept some losses but not old school Burnley free gifts where players leave for a pittance
Odebert has to stay him and Koleosho will rip up the Championship. Wout and Tressor can leave on a free to get them off the wage bill .

Claiming that you wouldn’t accept old school Burnley “free gifts” whilst also in the same post suggesting that we should let players that cost c.£30m combined “leave on a free” is quite amusing.

[Row Z]

Everyone saying we have the strongest squad in championship.
In my opinion SP has been handed a **** sandwich. Dont be too critical.

I think the squad is strong for the championship but there is certainly some pressure on him to get a team that was well beaten last season performing well. That said, he’s done it before in both his promotion seasons.

[GetIntoEm]

Do we think Tresor is still being paid-no one seems to know where he is-you could ask the same about Weghorst

Weghorst is back at gawthorpe

[Goliath]

Weghorst is back at gawthorpe

Lol. Bet he's delighted

[Woodleyclaret]

Do we start Wout v Luton before he leaves? If it gets us 3 points and allows him to apologise to the fans for being a pillock is it worth it?

[claretskeith]

I think the squad is strong for the championship but there is certainly some pressure on him to get a team that was well beaten last season performing well. That said, he’s done it before in both his promotion seasons.

Comfortably one of the strongest in the Championship.

[Woodleyclaret]

Personally I have every faith in SP .I think it appears his man management skills are far stronger than Vinnies.Its pleasing how JBG, Benny and Anass are all very positive in their assessment of Scott.They will be vital to our Championship title win this season

[jrgbfc]

Do we think Tresor is still being paid-no one seems to know where he is-you could ask the same about Weghorst

If he just hasn't reported back surely its breach of contract, i'd like to think we aren't paying him.
If he wants a move surely the sensible thing to do would be to at least come in and get himself fit, obviously not the brightest.

[DCWat]

Everyone saying we have the strongest squad in championship.
In my opinion SP has been handed a **** sandwich. Dont be too critical.

I’m in this camp. I just don’t see (particularly if we lose the likes of Berge, Odobert and O’Shea, without replacements of real quality at this level), that we will be within the main contenders.

The level of expectation, over egging of the quality that we have and dismissive nature of many when looking at other team’s squads, I feel that we may be in for a disappointing season.

Whilst I hope he will be given a fair chance, I remain to be convinced by Parker, particularly with him being hamstrung by the size of the squad and presumably the need to bring funds in.

My biggest concern is where it might leave us if we don’t get promoted this season.

[Raconteur]

Didn't ours though have to come through a company that recommended them to fit in with our business model of buy andcsell for a profit later, it just hasn't worked.

It hasn't worked?

We have sold 1 player in Muric and it was for a profit

[Raconteur]

Did they sign via a company owned by the manager ?

From your comments i don't think you actually know what MUD does.
They are not the overriding element that controls all of the recruitment.
It's a small cog that is part of a much larger machine.

You have literally no idea of what the contract contains between MUD and Burnley Football Club.

[GetIntoEm]

MUD is a analytical company, all they do is interpret data and produce reports. They have no contract with players, play no part in the transfer. There are plenty of companies who offer similar services.

[Hipper]

Do we start Wout v Luton before he leaves? If it gets us 3 points and allows him to apologise to the fans for being a pillock is it worth it?

I'd love him to stay and we set up to make the most of his talents. I thought him and Jay worked well together three years ago - maybe they can do the same in The Championship.

[jojomk1]

I’m in this camp. I just don’t see (particularly if we lose the likes of Berge, Odobert and O’Shea, without replacements of real quality at this level), that we will be within the main contenders.

The level of expectation, over egging of the quality that we have and dismissive nature of many when looking at other team’s squads, I feel that we may be in for a disappointing season.

Whilst I hope he will be given a fair chance, I remain to be convinced by Parker, particularly with him being hamstrung by the size of the squad and presumably the need to bring funds in.

My biggest concern is where it might leave us if we don’t get promoted this season.

My thoughts as well

An oversized, unbalanced squad, many of whom don't fit into our future even at Championship level

Most of whom also will have to be virtually given away - what is the point in loaning out players who could still be with us next season never mind this one, cut the losses now

If the likes of Berge, O'Shea, Oddobert and Trafford go the only happy people will be those players themselves

And Alan

[CrosspoolClarets]

Do we start Wout v Luton before he leaves? If it gets us 3 points and allows him to apologise to the fans for being a pillock is it worth it?

I doubt he will get within 10 miles of our training ground let alone 10 miles from Luton.

The more realistic question is if O’Shea, Trafford or Berge start. I expect not but could be surprised.

[GetIntoEm]

I doubt he will get within 10 miles of our training ground let alone 10 miles from Luton.

The more realistic question is if O’Shea, Trafford or Berge start. I expect not but could be surprised.

he's been there this week. i'd love to see him stay, but i doubt it will happen now.

[ISpeds00]

You may be right and only time will tell. However, as the new season approaches and there appears to be more and more 'chat' about some of our players my main concern currently is with team morale. As last season progressed it seemingly deteriorated alarmingly. From what we have been able to gather from pre-season things have improved.
We saw two years ago just how important togetherness and unity is in a football club but I am far from convinced that the current mood within the club is anything more than tenuous at best. Hope I'm way off the mark.

Stuffing Luton will help
I've a feeling though it'll be a tight draw
But then we will stuff Cardiff, who are on of the favs to go down

[burnley007]

he's been there this week. i'd love to see him stay, but i doubt it will happen now.

Wout has????

[CrosspoolClarets]

he's been there this week. i'd love to see him stay, but i doubt it will happen now.

Fair enough, I know the Turkish media were suggesting last week he was still on holiday in Greece if I recall.

I would still be amazed if he plays. Poor man management for a start, got to put trust in Foster etc.

[Firthy]

As it stands we have a really strong squad and until such time as we sell any of our best players that's all you can say. Can't really see us signing many if any more and just hope we don't sell any apart from fringe squad players.

[claret2018]

Back to transfer news it looks as though Utd are progressing with Berge. I hope we get a decent fee from them.

[bfcjg]

Re MUD/VK fair enough I concede the point, I'm just peed off with the financial issues we may face if it all goes wrong.

[burnley007]

Back to transfer news it looks as though Utd are progressing with Berge. I hope we get a decent fee from them.

I've never believed that this would happen but I may be wrong

[Woodleyclaret]

If Sander goes to Manure maybe we could look at one of their many young players on loan

[claretskeith]

I think we'll need to sign another central midfielder if Berge does go. Ramsey not due back until the turn of the year, Massengo hasn't played much for us, so that leaves Cullen and Brownhill to avoid injury.

[TheFamilyCat]

I think SP has been hampered by Kompany over sized squad. Now the board are selling the best of them leaving SP with the rest and no signings are his … feel the affects of Kompany will be felt for the immediate future and maybe longer.

I'm sure you won't be the only one blaming Kompany if we fail this season.

[claretskeith]

I'm sure you won't be the only one blaming Kompany if we fail this season.

I'd sooner have an oversized squad of proven players, than be light all over and have to take a chance on new signings.

[randomclaret2]

Stuffing Luton will help
I've a feeling though it'll be a tight draw
But then we will stuff Cardiff, who are on of the favs to go down

Made some good signings have Cardiff, would not expect them to struggle this season

[Dark Cloud]

My problem is that when the season ended I was genuinely worried because I knew we had a squad which although they'd been PL strugglers, would be odds on to finish top two in the Championship. My worry was that the squad would be decimated by bigger clubs sniffing round our better players and I expected that. It didn't seem to happen and as the summer has worn on and Parker has taken the reigns I've become increasingly confident we'd start the season with our jewels in tact. Suddenly, with only a few days left before we play in anger, teams are all over our best players. This makes it incredibly difficult for Parker to plan and gives us basically no time to react if we lose some big hitters. If we do lose the likes of Berge and or O'Shea or Esteve or Oderbert at this late stage t I'll be getting very worried and I do feel for Parker in this respect.