ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Stonehouse » Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:59 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:48 pm
you've got to be joking, weve never had as many wingers and your moaning about lack of wingers
We may have plenty of wingers but as I said Zaroury was poor last season,Benson is rather fragile JBG isn’t fast enough to play on the wing so we may be relying on Koleshoe and who else?

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:00 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:39 pm
Why didn't Spurs buy Tresor and / or Amdouni instead !!! So, any one of our players is up for sale. Moneyball strikes!!!
Tresor hasn’t played much for us, plus he’s 25yrs old
Spurs might feel that Odebert suits them better and has a bigger development arc


Amdouni - maybe Spurs didn’t see enough in him last season to tempt them into buying him

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by CalamityClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:01 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:57 am
Selling a player for £25m-£30m in a position where we have cover if it means that we can play harder ball or even refuse suitors for Berge / O'Shea also makes sense to me - if thats the case

And some are bemoaning not having him in the PL next year or the cost to replace him in the PL next year - we still have to get there yet....
Good post. My feelings exactly. Good for everyone and doesn't leave us with a gaping hole in terms on positions. Good luck to him

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:02 pm

As much as it is disappointing in losing him as he’s an exciting player, the fact that we’ve made virtually a 200% profit on a player cannot be underestimated.

We are always going to be that “stepping stone” club and that’s not a bad thing. Young players will see that we can give them the opportunity to make a name for themselves
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by ecc » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:02 pm

Let's give Anass a chance. He'll only need to get a few successful crosses in at TM and he'll be lifted enormously.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Vincent'sCap » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:04 pm

Couldn't have joined a worse team,Spurs a team going absolutely nowhere.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:05 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:59 pm
We may have plenty of wingers but as I said Zaroury was poor last season,Benson is rather fragile JBG isn’t fast enough to play on the wing so we may be relying on Koleshoe and who else?
Annas is like a new signing ... you can't rate his season in a poor hull side ... he will get a lot more space and opportunities with us ....

Vitinio lit up that right side so has to also be in the mix

Wout and foster switching 9 and 10 roles if he stays

We have a ridiculous amount of riches.... ridiculous

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:06 pm

Very sad, obviously, but it's a position we can cover and hopefully helps balance the books a bit more.
Can anyone remind me what we paid for Odobert.


Good luck to the lad at Spurs, he hasn't been here long enough to cement himself into Claret folklore, but it will be interesting following his career.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by TsarBomba » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:06 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:02 pm
As much as it is disappointing in losing him as he’s an exciting player, the fact that we’ve made virtually a 200% profit on a player cannot be underestimated.

We are always going to be that “stepping stone” club and that’s not a bad thing. Young players will see that we can give them the opportunity to make a name for themselves
This is exactly how we should market ourselves.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:11 pm

Great business for the club and he was the one player who showed glimpses of real class and top goals too .just need to clear out O’Shea , Berge and others so we have our actual real squad . Sure all “will” be huge misses at this level but we’ve a top quality side and should have money in the bank .

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Darthlaw » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:14 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:06 pm
This is exactly how we should market ourselves.
Exactly.

Talented youngsters come here, get their PL platform, play well and we won’t stand in their way when a decent offer comes in.

Add a manager pragmatic enough to utilise different tactics to keep us in the PL and it would be an excellent formula.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Fretters » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:15 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:59 pm
We may have plenty of wingers but as I said Zaroury was poor last season,Benson is rather fragile JBG isn’t fast enough to play on the wing so we may be relying on Koleshoe and who else?
After Monday, it'll be Vitinho on the right, Koleosho on the left. Zaroury and Benny as back ups.

It's a number 10 we've lost, but for there we have Amdouni and JBG, then Ramsey when he's back.

Not forgetting we can switch to 4-4-2 and have Weghorst or Jay alongside Foster.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:16 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:11 pm
Great business for the club and he was the one player who showed glimpses of real class and top goals too .just need to clear out O’Shea , Berge and others so we have our actual real squad . Sure all “will” be huge misses at this level but we’ve a top quality side and should have money in the bank .
I hope we dont ' clear out ' O'Shea and Berge
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by warksclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:18 pm

However sad it is to be selling such a bright prospect, it is fantastic business and lessens the need to sell other players. I said a few weeks ago that of Berge, O Shea and Odobert , the latter was easier to replace. Now he had been playing as a No 10, and I think this will pave the way for Amdouini. Last Monday Koleosho and Vitinho were wide players and were great, and Zarourry can step in as he showed, plus Benson who we know is a great impact wideman sub. Then of course there is Tresor who will have a point to prove when fit
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Juan Tanamera » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:19 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:38 am
Absolute nonsense selling one of our top players let's hope we have a 25% sell on and a £20m fee .I feel similar to I did years ago when Ralph Coates left , let down by our board.
I believe Alan Pace (and Kompany) have never made a secret of our strategy to buy young talents at a reasonable price then sell at the right time for profit.
Only the future can tell if we sold Odobert at the right time and if we got the true value.
Either way, we seem to have made one hell of a profit and in any walk of life that is a cracking piece of business.
As for the time we sold Ralph Coates, hadn't we just been relegated then as well?
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:22 pm

Only surprise here is that anyone thought he’d be with us for this season.

Clearly got huge potential but still a lot to learn. Fee just shows how wild the football transfer market is these days as he’s not worth 30mil. Happy for spuds to overpay us though, obvs.

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Post by Corway » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm

Transfermarkt
Says €29.7 fee

- Fee could rise to £30m with add-ons included.
- Burnley have a 10% of profit sell-on clause.

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Post by clarethomer » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm

Disappointing but that's the model. We have 2 quality championship teams within our squad so in isolation, its not something to panic over.

Good deal - especially if there is a sell on clause.

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Post by mdd2 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm

I think we still have to sell or loan 6 over 21's to get down to a 25man squad

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Mattster » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:59 pm
We may have plenty of wingers but as I said Zaroury was poor last season,Benson is rather fragile JBG isn’t fast enough to play on the wing so we may be relying on Koleshoe and who else?
On top of those we have Vintinho, Tresor, Redmond, Ramsey and Agyei. Then Twine has played left wing before. We also have Masara and Richardson in the U21s.

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Post by ClaretTony » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:27 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:19 pm
As for the time we sold Ralph Coates, hadn't we just been relegated then as well?
And Trippier

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by bfcmik » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:28 pm

I've heard he wanted to go because he was unhappy with the Castore shirts ;) :lol:

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Post by Stonehouse » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:34 pm

Fretters wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:15 pm
After Monday, it'll be Vitinho on the right, Koleosho on the left. Zaroury and Benny as back ups.

It's a number 10 we've lost, but for there we have Amdouni and JBG, then Ramsey when he's back.

Not forgetting we can switch to 4-4-2 and have Weghorst or Jay alongside Foster.
I thought Odebert played mostly on the wing last season.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:37 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm
I think we still have to sell or loan 6 over 21's to get down to a 25man squad
My guess

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:37 pm

Mattster wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:25 pm
On top of those we have Vintinho, Tresor, Redmond, Ramsey and Agyei. Then Twine has played left wing before. We also have Masara and Richardson in the U21s.
We wont be seeing Tresor, Redmond or Ramsey anytime soon. Masara and Richardson ??

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Post by Foreverly Claret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:38 pm

Bonne chance Wilson ! Sad to see you go but not surprised .Well done VK for spotting a bargain .

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Post by Mattster » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:43 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:37 pm
We wont be seeing Tresor, Redmond or Ramsey anytime soon. Masara and Richardson ??
We still have 4 first team wingers (Koleosho, Zaroury, Benson and Vitinho*) plus Twine who can play there. Plus Agyei who is apparently on the fringes of the first team. Richardson and Masara can be depth, personally from what I've seen of both I feel they could be emergency backup players at this level**.

Absolutely no shortage in this position.

*seems to be considered a winger by Parker
** personally feel Richardson needs to be involved this year or moved on, he is a first team footballer in terms of ability, playing U21 football is a waste for him
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Post by aclaretinstevenage » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:44 pm

Since62 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:50 am
The difference for me is that Ralph and Kieran were part of the club while Wilson was just passing through.
Exactly the case and he probably won't be the only one.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:44 pm

It’s very clear from the Berge and O’Shea links that we are not prepared to accept any old offer.

We’ve got a good price for him here.

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Post by Stayingup » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:45 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:00 pm
Tresor hasn’t played much for us, plus he’s 25yrs old
Spurs might feel that Odebert suits them better and has a bigger development arc


Amdouni - maybe Spurs didn’t see enough in him last season to tempt them into buying him
It was a tongue in cheek comment. Tresor? Who would buy him off his (lack of) showing so far?

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Post by nighty » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:46 pm

It would be madness not to accept £25mill plus £5m in add ons ...
He did ok last year but i wouldnt say he was outstanding , everyone knows the policy of the current owners , buy young ones and sell for profits , so its inevitable players will leave ,especially when we need to bridge an income gap of approx £40million this season.

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Post by Stayingup » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:50 pm

TPClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:51 pm
Watch Mission to Burnley 2. We have a global scouting network now.
The signing of the Brazilian would suggest that. Hope it continued.

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Post by elwaclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:58 pm

A great move for Wilson, and fantastic business by the club. Sad we won’t see him him develop into the player he’s going to be but shows young talent that Burnley is a club that can propel you into the stratosphere. Burnley simply cannot, and have never been able to turn down an offer like that. Sure some of our investors will be sleeping a little easier tonight and others will be looking on with new interest at the possibilities: they will know the higher we fly the more this kind of offer will come in. All good, including for Wilson.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:59 pm

Maybe this could be a breakthrough season for agyei?
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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:07 pm

It's excellent business, no ifs or buts.
Sad to lose him, but hope he does well.

At this stage of the transfer window, a club the size of ours will always be subject to raids from the likes
of Spurs, it's not just us.

Onwards and upwards you Clarets.

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Post by dsr » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:22 pm

Mattster wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:43 pm
We still have 4 first team wingers (Koleosho, Zaroury, Benson and Vitinho*) plus Twine who can play there. Plus Agyei who is apparently on the fringes of the first team. Richardson and Masara can be depth, personally from what I've seen of both I feel they could be emergency backup players at this level**.

Absolutely no shortage in this position.

*seems to be considered a winger by Parker
** personally feel Richardson needs to be involved this year or moved on, he is a first team footballer in terms of ability, playing U21 football is a waste for him
Don't forget Gudmondsson.

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Post by JohnMac » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:25 pm

Talented player and a good deal for the Club. As for his game time at Spurs? He isn't our player but hope he does really well in his career.

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Post by LowtonClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:37 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:49 am
37 million € :lol:
25m plus 5m add on is 35m Euro so pretty accurate

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:41 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:59 pm
We may have plenty of wingers but as I said Zaroury was poor last season,Benson is rather fragile JBG isn’t fast enough to play on the wing so we may be relying on Koleshoe and who else?
Last season was in the PREMIER LEAGUE

Who else = Tresor

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Post by Firthy » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:51 pm

Sad loss but for £30m+ it isn't exactly a bad deal for us.

I just hope we can hang on to O'Shea, Esteves and Koleosho. I think they are our most important players this season. Even Berge going wouldn't be the end of the world.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:55 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:16 pm
I hope we dont ' clear out ' O'Shea and Berge
Well I’d be amazed if either stay , isn’t O’Shea’s deal almost done and Berge surely doesn’t return . Though Steve is staying after not getting the deals his agent was touting around . “ sold “ “ cleared out” “ kicked all the way up arse” or perhaps leave on good terms ( which they will ) it matters not the terminology.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:59 pm

we will miss his pace at this level but that's a decent fee although they did spend 35 on Archie Gray....

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Post by dandeclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:04 pm

Twine gone to Bristol City now as well.... undisclosed fee.

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Post by IanMcL » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:04 pm

He will be a star and we can only wish him the very best for his future and thank him for his exciting displays for us.

Bit sad at this loss.

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Post by Sheedyclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:05 pm

Gutted what a time to announce it Burnley day before 1st home league game

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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:16 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:04 pm
Twine gone to Bristol City now as well.... undisclosed fee.
Be about 500k. They have no cash unless it’s a part ex for Vonway

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Post by Mattster » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:19 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:16 pm
Be about 500k. They have no cash unless it’s a part ex for Vonway
£3.2m plus add ons according to their local reporter

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:19 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:16 pm
Be about 500k. They have no cash unless it’s a part ex for Vonway
They sold Conway earlier today.

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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:21 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:19 pm
They sold Conway earlier today.
Just read that

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:21 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:19 pm
They sold Conway earlier today.
We should of done a part ex deal

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