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by BigGaz » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:04 pm
taio wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:05 am
Bump
Thanks for the bump
I said it, I own it.
It is absolutely amazing to me that we've turned in one of the all time, hall of famer worst seasons by any club, and clubs are still coming in strong for some of these footballing **** wits.
If you'd have told me after Everton that Dara O'Shea would be leaving against the wishes of most of the fans for 15m I'd have had a nervous breakdown
I still stand by that this is a reflection of a broken transfer market rather than the ability of these players and all I will be taking away is the reminder to never be surprised by football.

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by burnley007 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:07 pm
Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:03 pm
The combination of SB wanting to play in the PL & £25m needed & trimming the wage bill.
I think he was our biggest earner on approx £70k pw. Probably a major reason we had to sell unfortunately.
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by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:07 pm
JarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:03 pm
Odebert played but was going. so why change it for Berge, from that perspective what you are saying makes no sense and no need to insult people’s intelligence because they choose to believe what is stated.
It is obvious we are losing more players we still have too many more than we can register
No interest sufficient enough at that point warranted resting odebert spurs coming in caught everybody off guard. It was that quick you looked at the forum nothing mentioned went to work finished work looked back on, gone.
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by Blyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:09 pm
Having to have 8 home players has changed our transfer strategy in my opinion.
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by jedi_master » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:10 pm
Blyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:09 pm
Having to have 8 home players has changed our transfer strategy in my opinion.
Yes think that is becoming very clear.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:14 pm
JarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:03 pm
Odebert played but was going. so why change it for Berge, from that perspective what you are saying makes no sense and no need to insult people’s intelligence because they choose to believe what is stated.
It is obvious we are losing more players we still have too many more than we can register
Jakub thinks it should be legal to take drugs and drive as well as have the public decide which prisoners we should kill.
Allowing him to insult your intelligence should be taken as the compliment it is
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by Steddyman » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:21 pm
Trippier is keen to leave Newcastle according to the Athletic, and Everton are interested in taking him on loan.
Would you?
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by brexit » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:21 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:41 am
That’s the most frustrating thing for me this window. Doesn’t feel like any of these players can really be considered potential premier league players in future (I would exclude Hountondji & Hannibal from that list - have been impressed with the former and feel the latter could play in the premier league).
I’d honestly have rather we stuck by our fringe players like McNally, AAD, Anass and Benson (assuming he goes) and give them playing time than turf them out and replace with no better.
Only thing I can imagine is that the price difference is driving the sales as we need the thin profit off them/loan now pay later cash benefit, which is pretty worrying in its own right.
Hoping there are actually other deals being explored that we’re not aware of yet.
I disagree, I think SP is building a team that can survive in the EPL for one season with 16th or 17th place finish as a minimum.
SP knows he has a reputation for promotion but not being able to stay in the EPL - he is therefore recruiting accordingly.
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by burnley007 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:22 pm
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:21 pm
Trippier is keen to leave Newcastle according to the Athletic, and Everton are interested in taking him on loan.
Would you?
yeah, I'd let him.
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by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:26 pm
At this level trippier would comfortably be the best player in the league
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by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:30 pm
brexit wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:21 pm
I disagree, I think SP is building a team that can survive in the EPL for one season with 16th or 17th place finish as a minimum.
SP knows he has a reputation for promotion but not being able to stay in the EPL - he is therefore recruiting accordingly.
At this point we have no indication of just what say SP has in the recruitment process, if any
The structure that we had under VK is no longer in place - SP is here as a coach not a manager with influence over all the clubs activities - I thought that was a very clear message from the club
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by wadeswondergoal » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:30 pm
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:21 pm
Trippier is keen to leave Newcastle according to the Athletic, and Everton are interested in taking him on loan.
Would you?
Trippier wife wants to leave Newcastle.
If you think there is any reasonable chance of him coming to us in the Championship, then I want some of what you’re having!
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by Clive 1960 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:31 pm
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:26 pm
At this level trippier would comfortably be the best player in the league
can't afford his wages ,plus it doesn't fit in to the boards vision of buying young lad's and then selling them..
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by BigGaz » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
On anywhere between 100-140k a week depending on the publication.
It'd be lovely but I don't think it could work. I also think the pull for him would more be Dyche rather than us.
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by Steddyman » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
At least we will know where is loyalty really lie when he said one day he'd come back to Burnley.
Did he really mean Burnley or did he mean Sean? I can't see a world in which we could cover his wages, though with no transfer fee to pay it is possible.
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by brexit » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
John Egan?
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by CaptainKirk » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
So, that is Oderbert and Berge definately gone.
Any others so far?
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by wadeswondergoal » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:33 pm
Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:31 pm
can't afford his wages ,plus it doesn't fit in to the boards vision of buying young lad's and then selling them..
Notwithstanding the fact that he wouldn’t play for a Championship club at this point of his career?
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by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:33 pm
Chester Perry wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:30 pm
At this point we have no indication of just what say SP has in the recruitment process, if any
The structure that we has under VK is no longer in place - SP is here as a coach not a manager with influence over all the clubs activities - I thought that was a very clear message from the club
He might be here as head coach but he will be involved in transfer discussions no doubt. Worrall stands out as being a signing that Parker will of had influence on
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by wadeswondergoal » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:34 pm
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
At least we will know where is loyalty really lie when he said one day he'd come back to Burnley.
Did he really mean Burnley or did he mean Sean? I can't see a world in which we could cover his wages, though with no transfer fee to pay it is possible.
He might well come back to Burnley - but it won’t be in this transfer window.
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by wadeswondergoal » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:34 pm
CaptainKirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
So, that is Oderbert and Berge definately gone.
Any others so far?
We’ve sold the whole squad, didn’t you know?
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by CaptainKirk » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:37 pm
I know there has been a lot of talk and some may well leave in the next week or so but any others actually gone?
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by Steddyman » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:41 pm
I think it has been stated by a few in the know that while he is training with us, his fitness makes it unlikely we will make him an offer.
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by CaptainKirk » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:41 pm
I suppose I know the answer to my own question.
Until CT publishes the article, either in or out, it is all just speculation.
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by Commy » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:43 pm
Wasn't that a few weeks ago?
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by claretskeith » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:45 pm
That really is a very poor news site.
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by IanMcL » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:45 pm
CaptainKirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:32 pm
So, that is Oderbert and Berge definately gone.
Any others so far?
I seem to remember a goalkeeper or 3?

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by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:46 pm
claretskeith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:54 am
Decent fee, but only if we replace him with someone just as good.
What no Burnley goal in 18 months

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by claretskeith » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:47 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:46 pm
What no Burnley goal in 18 months
Yeah.
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by Paddy1882 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:52 pm
Could SP be thinking of 3 at the back with his signings so far. Defender heavy now despite the departures or potential departures and I think we’ll be left short in midfield and attack personally.
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by TsarBomba » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:53 pm
Commy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:43 pm
Wasn't that a few weeks ago?
Yeah, I’m sure it was said he had trained with us but wasn’t up to standard?
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by wadeswondergoal » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:55 pm
claretskeith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:45 pm
That really is a very poor news site.
A bit like this thread.
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by IanMcL » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:57 pm
I fear for us in these dramatic turnover windows.
Best players out and 'promise' in, is not sustainable on a football pitch.
Too much disruption and learning to do.
We may have save a few million this season, however, it could bite quickly and cost us £120 million or more.
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by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:01 pm
BigGaz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:04 pm
It is absolutely amazing to me that we've turned in one of the all time, hall of famer worst seasons by any club, and clubs are still coming in strong for some of these footballing **** wits.
But they are not footballing **** wits, they are decent PL players that were managed by a stubborn **** wit with no plan B.
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by AfloatinClaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:11 pm
Boxy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:24 am
The mauser
What? He shoots people

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by Flying Without Ings » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:15 pm
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:57 pm
I fear for us in these dramatic turnover windows.
Best players out and 'promise' in, is not sustainable on a football pitch.
Too much disruption and learning to do.
We may have save a few million this season, however, it could bite quickly and cost us £120 million or more.
There was a lot of disruption 2 seasons ago and we finished with 101 points… I would at least save your panicking until after the window shuts.
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by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:19 pm
IanMcL wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:57 pm
I fear for us in these dramatic turnover windows.
Best players out and 'promise' in, is not sustainable on a football pitch.
Too much disruption and learning to do.
We may have save a few million this season, however, it could bite quickly and cost us £120 million or more.
We've lost two first team regulars one of which hasn't played in the first two games we won 9-1, I fear for us to

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by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:21 pm
Could we be in for Daras’ brother on the rebound, Rick O’Shea?
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by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:23 pm
Benny must stay I was gutted that Anass has gone and loosing Benny is imo a step too far.
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by BabylonClaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:38 pm
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:35 am
There’s a difference between someone who you don’t have a lot on common with and disliking someone. The opinion that he follows Andrew Tate therefore he must be a bellend just doesn’t sit well with me. It’s not confined to this board, it’s society in general. Anyway back to the topic in hand!
Why would you follow a misogynistic, hate promoting bellend like Andrew Tate?
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by Steddyman » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:42 pm
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:23 pm
Benny must stay I was gutted that Anass has gone and loosing Benny is imo a step too far.
You could get therapy, and then let Burnley make £7m on a player than hasn't contributed for 12 months.
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by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:57 pm
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:42 pm
You could get therapy, and then let Burnley make £7m on a player than hasn't contributed for 12 months.
In fairness he can only contribute if he's allowed to. Never selecting him no wonder he isn't contributing.
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by LongsideClaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:58 pm
BigChaCha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:51 pm
It's all hypocrisy... There are literally 100s of thousands if not more of female influencers who are turning a similar amount of impressionable young women into S** workers on social media and nobody bats an eyelid about them or accuses them of brainwashing British Girls like the Tates get accused of brainwashing British boys...
And near enough everything said in the press about them can be proven as fake in seconds after a quick search. I am no fan of them personally, just not my cup of tea but you'd have to be seriously cerebrally challenged to not work out what the establishment is trying to achieve with them while ignoring the far more dangerous female influencers on social media who do not challenge the establishment as they do!
Sorry for going slightly off topic here but it sounds like Plymouth are eyeing up a move for Michael Obafemi

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by JarrowClaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:00 pm
Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:07 pm
No interest sufficient enough at that point warranted resting odebert spurs coming in caught everybody off guard. It was that quick you looked at the forum nothing mentioned went to work finished work looked back on, gone.
Not sure that is entirely correct, I don’t know the timescale for the bid etc but just because it wasn’t mentioned anywhere doesn’t mean it wasn’t ongoing for a few days/ weeks.
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by Blyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:01 pm
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:23 pm
Benny must stay I was gutted that Anass has gone and loosing Benny is imo a step too far.
Players are not like pets … we don’t keep them forever.
With regard to Benson … he’s one player that is a complete luxury player that most teams can’t afford to have in squad.
Of all the players I’d get rid of him.
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by Fretters » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
LongsideClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:58 pm
Sorry for going slightly off topic here but it sounds like Plymouth are eyeing up a move for Michael Obafemi
sake Longside, I came here to find out opinions on Andrew Tate, not learn about transfer rumours.
Do better, please.
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by Blyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
LongsideClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:58 pm
Sorry for going slightly off topic here but it sounds like Plymouth are eyeing up a move for Michael Obafemi
Does he need a lift
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by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
JarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:00 pm
Not sure that is entirely correct, I don’t know the timescale for the bid etc but just because it wasn’t mentioned anywhere doesn’t mean it wasn’t ongoing for a few days/ weeks.
It was kept well under wraps if it was. You would suspect as another poster alluded to the performance against Luton perked interest up. Berge was going nothing was stopping that.
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by Poulton-le-Claret » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:09 pm
LongsideClaret wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:58 pm
Sorry for going slightly off topic here but it sounds like Plymouth are eyeing up a move for Michael Obafemi
Straight swap for Whittaker?
