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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:22 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:13 am
Is it still the consensus view that we're going go rake in some big bucks for Trafford ?
Or are people coming round to the view that we're going to have to take a biggish hit with this one?
Sorry what is this ‘biggish hit’? We’ve already rejected a bid offering the same amount we bought him for? All reports suggest we are asking for £25-30m. I hope he stays.

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Post by BabylonClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:24 am

Can't see people wanting to shell big money for Traff, but who knows. Likewise Amdouni - how on earth do we value him at 18m?? I know we paid a fair wedge and want to make a profit but he's done pretty much nothing really to warrant that price tag- I mean we o ly pegged 20 for Sander who was streets ahead of him

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:26 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:13 am
Is it still the consensus view that we're going go rake in some big bucks for Trafford ?
Or are people coming round to the view that we're going to have to take a biggish hit with this one?
Neither atm. Play him, build up his confidence and sell him at some future date. Oh and stop zonal marking and get a Cork replacement as dcm,
someone 6 foot.

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Post by Tall Paul » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:28 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:44 am
Don't worry the Premier league won't let Everton get relegated to the Championship with a brand new multi multi million pound show stadium
I wonder why they had a penalty overturned when the score was 0-0. Surely a perfect opportunity for the PL to help them out.

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Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:29 am

summitclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:26 am
Neither atm. Play him, build up his confidence and sell him at some future date. Oh and stop zonal marking and get a Cork replacement as dcm,
someone 6 foot.
It wouldn't surprise me if Trafford starts tomorrow. I think we either need to sell or give him a full season.

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Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:29 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:56 am
How have you got that figure??
Sorry, really poor error from me there - that’s per month!
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Post by roperclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:31 am

martin_p wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:45 am
Shrewd bit of business to net over a million quid for a player that left at the end of his contract a couple of months ago.
I read that as being his wage

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:32 am

claretskeith wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:29 am
It wouldn't surprise me if Trafford starts tomorrow. I think we either need to sell or give him a full season.
You can only sell if you have a buyer & are realistic about the price. I think there'll have to be an acceptance that we paid over the odds & will lose out.

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Post by summitclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:33 am

claretskeith wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:29 am
It wouldn't surprise me if Trafford starts tomorrow. I think we either need to sell or give him a full season.
His value is unlikely to increase if he sits on the bench all season. We have to play him. He'll be fine if the boo boys leave him alone and the rest get a song going for him. Like England's next nr 1.

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Post by Blyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:33 am

Oh someone with more money than sense will pay big money for Trafford.

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Post by Hipper » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:34 am

CaptJohn wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:53 am
If the report on JBG is correct and we received 1.5M Euros then this must rank as a superb bit of business by Mr Pace.
Meets JBG on the plane back from Europe. Has a natter. Confirms that the nasty Mr Kompany has gone.
Persuades JBG to sign again for us. JBG scores a cracker against Cardiff but flies off to Saudi Arabia the next week.
Burnley trouser over a £1 million for their services.
Even Steve Cotterill never thought of this - did he? Much to our amazement he got £1.2 million for Wayne Thomas to Southampton, and even more amazingly, £50,000 from Leeds for Ian Moore. I don't think these can be bettered.

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Post by BB4Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:34 am

PWBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:50 am
The €1.5m could refer to his wages for 18 months, rather than a transfer fee.
You don’t uproot your family to Saudi for £16K per week. He’d easily have been on that here at Burnley.

£1.3 million for Johan is good business by the club.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:36 am

PRESENT SQUAD - STARTING XI NOW - CAPABLE OF STARTING XI WHEN FIT

1 James Trafford
2 Dara O’Shea
3 Shurandy Sambo
5 Maxime Estève
6 CJ Egan-Riley
8 Josh Brownhill
9 Jay Rodriguez
10 Manuel Benson
14 Connor Roberts
15 Nathan Redmond
17 Lyle Foster
18 Hjalmar Ekdal
20 Etienne Green
21 Aaron Ramsey
22 Vitinho
23 Lucas Pires
24 Josh Cullen
25 Zeki Amdouni
28 Ameen Al-Dakhil
29 Wout Weghorst
30 Luca Koleosho
31 Mike Trésor
32 Václav Hladký
34 Luke McNally
36 Jordan Beyer
37 Andréas Hountondji
39 Owen Dodgson
40 Charlie Casper
42 Han-Noah Massengo
44 Hannes Delcroix
48 Enock Agyei
Bashir Humphreys
Joe Worrall


LEFT PERMANENT

Wilson Odobert
Anass Zaroury
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson

LEFT ON LOAN

Dara Costelloe
Darko Churlinov
Michael Obafemi


For the bed wetters, we still have a massive pool of players, all capable of playing for top teams at this level. When players get back to fitness the pool gets even bigger. The likes of Sambo and Agyei could be added to that pool when we see them on the pitch.
If fans really think we have a problem, I can guarantee there are 21 teams in this league that would love our 'problem'.

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:37 am

Scotty will have several big decisions to make tomorrow, but I hope Amdouini still starts despite the gossip. The big decisions will be Oshea or Worrall, and does Trafford start. If Oshea does not or is supposedly "suffering a niggle" !!, that will tell us something

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Post by EarbyClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:38 am

Things may have changed but I assumed bringing in a 'keeper of Hladky's calibre - ever-present for Ipswich last season - we intended or maybe still intend to sell Trafford

Wouldn't be surprised to see him go to a top-end PL club as back-up and play in domestic cups and early round European fixtures - as others have said he'd also help with the home-grown quota

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Post by Burnley87 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:40 am

As poor as Amdouni was last season he will get 20 goals this season and personally I think it’s important we keep hold of him if we want to win the league.
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Post by MarkGreen » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:46 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:36 am
PRESENT SQUAD - STARTING XI NOW - CAPABLE OF STARTING XI WHEN FIT

1 James Trafford
2 Dara O’Shea
3 Shurandy Sambo
5 Maxime Estève
6 CJ Egan-Riley
8 Josh Brownhill
9 Jay Rodriguez
10 Manuel Benson
14 Connor Roberts
15 Nathan Redmond
17 Lyle Foster
18 Hjalmar Ekdal
20 Etienne Green
21 Aaron Ramsey
22 Vitinho
23 Lucas Pires
24 Josh Cullen
25 Zeki Amdouni
28 Ameen Al-Dakhil
29 Wout Weghorst
30 Luca Koleosho
31 Mike Trésor
32 Václav Hladký
34 Luke McNally
36 Jordan Beyer
37 Andréas Hountondji
39 Owen Dodgson
40 Charlie Casper
42 Han-Noah Massengo
44 Hannes Delcroix
48 Enock Agyei
Bashir Humphreys
Joe Worrall


LEFT PERMANENT

Wilson Odobert
Anass Zaroury
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson

LEFT ON LOAN

Dara Costelloe
Darko Churlinov
Michael Obafemi


For the bed wetters, we still have a massive pool of players, all capable of playing for top teams at this level. When players get back to fitness the pool gets even bigger. The likes of Sambo and Agyei could be added to that pool when we see them on the pitch.
If fans really think we have a problem, I can guarantee there are 21 teams in this league that would love our 'problem'.
Some big absentees from the LEFT list.

Scott Twine
Sander Berge
Charlie Taylor
Samuel Bastien
Bailey Peacock-Farrell

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:47 am

Burnley87 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:40 am
As poor as Amdouni was last season he will get 20 goals this season and personally I think it’s important we keep hold of him if we want to win the league.
Totally agree- with Odobert, JBG and Zaroury having all gone who would all have chipped in with a number of goals .Add to that Wout going, and I hate to say it, we all desperately hope and pray that Lyle will have no re-occurrence of the issues he has faced this past season.That of course unless Scotty has someone up his sleeve who can score. Amdouini has the skills to produce this seasons "Tella" for us

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Post by matttheclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:47 am

MarkGreen wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:46 am
Some big absentees from the LEFT list.

Scott Twine
Sander Berge
Charlie Taylor
Samuel Bastien
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
Muric too
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Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:48 am

Trafford
Roberts O’Shea Esteve Pires
Vitinho Cullen Brownhill Koleosho
Amdouni Foster

Hladky
Worrall
Benson
Jay
Wout
Houtondji
HNM
Sambo
Humphreys

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Post by Firthy » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:48 am

Still not convinced that O'Shea will be going anywhere. I don't think PL clubs want to pay the asking price for a basically unproven PL player. Similar with Amdouni, sounds like he's being priced out of a move. Hope the club continue to play hardball and we keep these two for the season.
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Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:50 am

Firthy wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:48 am
Still not convinced that O'Shea will be going anywhere. I don't think PL clubs want to pay the asking price for a basically unproven PL player. Similar with Amdouni, sounds like he's being priced out of a move. Hope the club continue to play hardball and we keep these two for the season.
Could EASILY be the difference between going up and staying down.

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Post by BB4Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:51 am

BB4Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:34 am
You don’t uproot your family to Saudi for £16K per week. He’d easily have been on that here at Burnley.

£1.3 million for Johan is good business by the club.
Doh !
€1.5 million over a year works out at around £25K per week. Still not worth it, though.
The €1.5 million has to be a transfer fee.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:51 am

I've always been an Amdouni fan, like a lot of others he was hung out last season. His efforts for Switzerland show he is a quality player, if used right. At this level he is capable of ripping it up, so I hope we can convince him to stay, if his head has been turned, or reject the calls to sell him, as the business model has been met already.

Either way, I'd like to remind some of the many posters on here who claimed he wasn't good enough for Burnley, should never get near our first team, needs to be got rid of asap, lazy disinterested sod....
You can't have it both ways. One minute he's a waste of space, the next minute he's indispensable. You need to make your minds up and stick to it, or even, Heaven forbid, give the lad a chance before jumping on his back.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:54 am

MarkGreen wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:46 am
Some big absentees from the LEFT list.

Scott Twine
Sander Berge
Charlie Taylor
Samuel Bastien
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
I know, I was using the squad list on the site, and I couldn't be bothered to trawl through my memory for the missing links. I'd have ended up posting tomorrow. By then the list might well have changed again. :lol:

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Post by FeedTheArf » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:54 am

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:37 am
Scotty will have several big decisions to make tomorrow, but I hope Amdouini still starts despite the gossip. The big decisions will be Oshea or Worrall, and does Trafford start. If Oshea does not or is supposedly "suffering a niggle" !!, that will tell us something
I think he can get around the Worrall decision by saying it's too early for him having not had much (if any) training with the squad. Fully expect him to start against Wolves in the cup and then who knows! Largely depends on O'Shea being sold elsewhere.
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Post by Steddyman » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:56 am

roperclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:31 am
I read that as being his wage
He wouldn't leave Burnley for Saudi for a pay cut. That is less than £25k per week.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:59 am

Amdouni: Great penalty taker and as people have said, will get a lot of goals at this level, which will do him good

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Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:08 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:18 am
Do you live in Saudi?
I was stating that the 1.5m wont be his wages for 18 months in Saudi, it would be a lot more as hes likely already earning that here.

I don't live there but my brother in law lives in the middle east and earns more in a year than most do in 20

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Post by Blyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:12 am

That’s a strong team and a strong bench.

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Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:18 am

What's the latest with Vitinho, is he looking more likely to stay now?
As I think he could be very important for us attacking-right, with Odobert gone.

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Post by roperclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:25 am

Steddyman wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:56 am
He wouldn't leave Burnley for Saudi for a pay cut. That is less than £25k per week.
I could’ve misread- I had it as his monthly wage ( maybe got carried away with Ronaldo earning £173 million per year)

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Post by Blyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:32 am

Very impressed with Worrall interview. Sounds like a guy you need in the trenches with you. I’d have no problem starting him. You know he will give 100%.
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:33 am

Looking at the amount of player's we've lost and what sort of starting eleven and bench we still have to go with just shows how strong of a squad we have, no other team in the championship could lose that amount of player's and still be this strong and that's before we even bring in more player's

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Post by BigBadBarnes » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:40 am

I wasn't a fan of Amdouni last season and I can't see him making it as a Premier league player despite his technical quality. But I don't think there is any point in selling him either. He will get goals in this league and if we want to sell him we can get much more money next summer for him

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:43 am

BigBadBarnes wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:40 am
I wasn't a fan of Amdouni last season and I can't see him making it as a Premier league player despite his technical quality. But I don't think there is any point in selling him either. He will get goals in this league and if we want to sell him we can get much more money next summer for him
If Amdouni does go, and I'm assuming Weghorst will too...are we seriously going to try and go through a Championship season with Foster and Rodriguez as our striking options ?

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Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:48 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:43 am
If Amdouni does go, and I'm assuming Weghorst will too...are we seriously going to try and go through a Championship season with Foster and Rodriguez as our striking options ?
We have Hountondji too, but yes, we need 4 at least.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:51 am

claretskeith wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:48 am
We have Hountondji too, but yes, we need 4 at least.
We do to be fair , but we've seen virtually nothing of him so have no way of knowing if he'll be good enough

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Post by BigBadBarnes » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:55 am

We will certainly need to sign several attacking players if Weghorst, Amdouni, and Benson are all to leave as the rumours currently suggest. We would certainly be looking much lighter in options if not!
Vitinho, Redmond, Tresor, Koleosho
Rodriguez, Foster, Hountondj

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Post by Blyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:57 am

Any news on the French guy Keppal ?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:58 am

BigBadBarnes wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:55 am
We will certainly need to sign several attacking players if Weghorst, Amdouni, and Benson are all to leave as the rumours currently suggest. We would certainly be looking much lighter in options if not!
Vitinho, Redmond, Tresor, Koleosho
Rodriguez, Foster, Hountondj
Redmond is out with a long term injury and Tresor is nowhere to be seen
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Post by Guller Bull » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:58 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:43 am
If Amdouni does go, and I'm assuming Weghorst will too...are we seriously going to try and go through a Championship season with Foster and Rodriguez as our striking options ?

I wouldn't have though so. I am sure we will bring in a striker. Don't forget Houtonji (sp?) as well even though largely untried yet.

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Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:58 am

It all seems to have gone quiet with the links into the club, such as Johnston, Sarmiento and Hannibal

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Post by Blyclaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:01 am

If United buy Ugarte .. that will free up Hannibal.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:04 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:58 am
It all seems to have gone quiet with the links into the club, such as Johnston, Sarmiento and Hannibal
Sheff Utd in talks will Celtic for Johnson, Celtic want a defender that Sheffield utd are willing to let go, so this player part exchange and cash will possibly see us miss out

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:06 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:58 am
Redmond is out with a long term injury and Tresor is nowhere to be seen
Tresor is ill/injured why would he be seen ??

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Quicknick » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:08 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:04 am
Sheff Utd in talks will Celtic for Johnson, Celtic want a defender that Sheffield utd are willing to let go, so this player part exchange and cash will possibly see us miss out
Assuming we're interested.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Longsider » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:11 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:36 am
PRESENT SQUAD - STARTING XI NOW - CAPABLE OF STARTING XI WHEN FIT

1 James Trafford
2 Dara O’Shea
3 Shurandy Sambo
5 Maxime Estève
6 CJ Egan-Riley
8 Josh Brownhill
9 Jay Rodriguez
10 Manuel Benson
14 Connor Roberts
15 Nathan Redmond
17 Lyle Foster
18 Hjalmar Ekdal
20 Etienne Green
21 Aaron Ramsey
22 Vitinho
23 Lucas Pires
24 Josh Cullen
25 Zeki Amdouni
28 Ameen Al-Dakhil
29 Wout Weghorst
30 Luca Koleosho
31 Mike Trésor
32 Václav Hladký
34 Luke McNally
36 Jordan Beyer
37 Andréas Hountondji
39 Owen Dodgson
40 Charlie Casper
42 Han-Noah Massengo
44 Hannes Delcroix
48 Enock Agyei
Bashir Humphreys
Joe Worrall


LEFT PERMANENT

Wilson Odobert
Anass Zaroury
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson

LEFT ON LOAN

Dara Costelloe
Darko Churlinov
Michael Obafemi


For the bed wetters, we still have a massive pool of players, all capable of playing for top teams at this level. When players get back to fitness the pool gets even bigger. The likes of Sambo and Agyei could be added to that pool when we see them on the pitch.
If fans really think we have a problem, I can guarantee there are 21 teams in this league that would love our 'problem'.
Thanks for that. Tena Men now removed
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Casper2 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:14 am

I’m surprised the term bedwetters is still allowed

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by AfloatinClaret » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:30 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:54 am
I think he can get around the Worrall decision by saying it's too early for him having not had much (if any) training with the squad. Fully expect him to start against Wolves in the cup and then who knows! Largely depends on O'Shea being sold elsewhere.
I hope so; CT's article suggests that historically Worrall's debuts have ended in 2 - 0 defeats for him, so I'd rather we lose in the cup than at Sunderland.
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