Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[summitclaret]

Are we saying Koleosho is priceless?

If the fee is going to be about 23m - is that not too good to turn down?

It's no where near enough. Can't believe we need to sell him as well as the rest. He'll be worth far more in 12 months and is the key to promotion.

[Blyclaret]

Seems a lot of supporters on here sit at home and their wages come through the letterbox.
Try running a business and see how difficult it is.

[northeastclaret]

I thought I read end of of last week, that Parker said Tresor will be returning to training next week, which may mean this week now, if that’s correct I am sure the club will factoring him into the finalSquad numbers.

[morninbob]

Not that bothered about koleosho going as long as we get some decent replacements, he's quick with not much end product. I would have much rather kept odabert who has a higher ceiling IMO.

[Steddyman]

After three games? Two of which we've won?

Please stop talking sense.

I want to remain ****** off Koleosho might leave for 10x what we paid for him.

[jedi_master]

Are we saying Koleosho is priceless?

If the fee is going to be about 23m - is that not too good to turn down?

Not when you’ve brought in £120m and have absolutely no need to sell him when you’re allegedly trying to win promotion.

[morninbob]

I agree.

Fee likely somewhere between the Berge and Odobert numbers. We’ve rejected the offers so far but they may come in again.

I thought that wolves were skint ? Or is it another team?

[Somethingfishy]

The sales and the fees we have recouped in isolation are excellent business. The timing so close to the window shutting isn't ideal but it is when the market moves the most.

The biggest issue in this is the unfortunate timing so close to the derby. I think if it wasn't for that then it wouldn't be as much of a meltdown. It is subconsciously for most and consciously for some affecting their views on what is going on.

[Row x]

Yes mate, I've watched Zaroury taking players on for fun and scoring for us. I've also seen Benson scoring 4 bangers in a row, one that won us the title at Ewood Park.

I have to say I didn't personally see much of Anthony and Sarmiento, but between them, they've scored 6 goals last season in 71 games. No matter how hard you try to spin it, there's no chance they are better than what we had 2 seasons ago.

You like recognizing the team we put out? Good luck with that on Saturday. It will be a nervy derby when you have 5 debutants.

I watched Zaroury do that, but then nothing after the world Cup, even at this level
I also remember Benson goals, I also remember how frail he could be, I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on him lasting a season
I know very little about the two mentioned, but the Brighton lad has certainly performed well at this level far more recently than Benson or Zaroury

[CoolClaret]

Seems a lot of supporters on here sit at home and their wages come through the letterbox.
Try running a business and see how difficult it is.

Seems like even more think that they get a dividend of the player sales or something? There's nothing to be happy about selling young players in the starting XI.

[JimmyRobbo]

Yes mate, I've watched Zaroury taking players on for fun and scoring for us. I've also seen Benson scoring 4 bangers in a row, one that won us the title at Ewood Park.

I have to say I didn't personally see much of Anthony and Sarmiento, but between them, they've scored 6 goals last season in 71 games. No matter how hard you try to spin it, there's no chance they are better than what we had 2 seasons ago.

You like recognizing the team we put out? Good luck with that on Saturday. It will be a nervy derby when you have 5 debutants.

Don't get me wrong; I loved that 1st season of those 2 proper wingers who came from nowhere that nobody on here really knew what to expect.

Zaroury wasn't the same after Christmas. Looked disinterested. Got dropped at Hull. 9m euros is a good return for him.

Benson was wonderful to watch even when the defender knew he was cutting inside. Didn't do much last season. He's not young and a he's a bit soft. I can understand them selling for 9m. That is very good business. (LC says it might not happen and I'd be disappointed actually).

[Steddyman]

In the meantime, Lee Ryder (pretty reliable for Newcastle): "#nufc sources play down James Trafford talks as club focus on winger & defender. Although stopper is "admired" by Magpies."

We should hold onto Traffs until at least Jan. Right now his stock must be at its lowest point after being dropped for the last 10 games.

He's bulked up a bit since. If he can turn it around this year, we'll be able to demand the full £30m at least.

[Blyclaret]

Not when you’ve brought in £120m and have absolutely no need to sell him when you’re allegedly trying to win promotion.

So Jedi .. you think the £120 m is sitting in a bank account and the board and saying a **** it lets sell another player???

[123EasyasBFC]

Sell koleosho for 23m

Sign - Sarmiento, Johnston, Anthony and keep benson

Would we be happy?

[Commy]

Sarmiento impressed me last year for Ipswich. I think he was mainly used as a sub but was always in or around the box when the ball came in and looked dangerous.

[CoolClaret]

I watched Zaroury do that, but then nothing after the world Cup, even at this level
I also remember Benson goals, I also remember how frail he could be, I certainly wouldn't be putting any money on him lasting a season
I know very little about the two mentioned, but the Brighton lad has certainly performed well at this level far more recently than Benson or Zaroury

Did you see Benson come off the bench against Wolves at home and nearly win us a three points in April?

Did you see Zaroury (and Benson) bag two goals in the FA Cup against PL Bournemouth after the world cup in a 4-2 win?

Did you see Zaroury also play #10 away in the Cup at Spurs setting Amdouni up with a golden chance with a fantastic piece of skill?

Nah of course, not, just go along with the same b0llocks myth, rather than suggesting that maybe just maybe consistency is an issue in all young players and their treatment off our previous manager has negatively impacted both of them?

[gandhisflipflop]

Sell koleosho for 23m

Sign - Sarmiento, Johnston, Anthony and keep benson

Would we be happy?

Yes. With Tresor and redmond to come back. I’d swap Anthony for kebbal

[jedi_master]

So Jedi .. you think the £120 m is sitting in a bank account and the board and saying a **** it lets sell another player???

No i think it’s probably nominally servicing the debt that Alan Pace used to pay for our football club. I think to have brought in £120m (approx) and still be actively attempting to sell Trafford, Amdouni, Koleosho, Benson, McNally and others is very concerning. I’m amazed anyone doesn’t.

[ervi34]

Don't get me wrong; I loved that 1st season of those 2 proper wingers who came from nowhere that nobody on here really knew what to expect.

Zaroury wasn't the same after Christmas. Looked disinterested. Got dropped at Hull. 9m euros is a good return for him.

Benson was wonderful to watch even when the defender knew he was cutting inside. Didn't do much last season. He's not young and a he's a bit soft. I can understand them selling for 9m. That is very good business. (LC says it might not happen and I'd be disappointed actually).

I never said it doesn't make sense from business perspective. In fact, I've written a similar thing to you just a few hours ago. But when you get of rid 5 wingers in two weeks and replace them with 2 weaker ones, then I couldn't care less about profit or business.

[ervi34]

Sky: #Wolves very much interested in signing Luca Koleosho from #Burnley before the deadline. Has started both #Clarets games so far and scored on Saturday against Cardiff.

[alwaysaclaret]

Any links to transfers in !

[Somethingfishy]

Sell koleosho for 23m

Sign - Sarmiento, Johnston, Anthony and keep benson

Would we be happy?

I'd be a lot happier if we sign a proven goalscorer. I like Foster but he isn't the answer unfortunately. With Obafemi out and Weghorst likely going we can't be relying on him and Jay. Hountodji may be the answer but he looks a bit raw at the moment.

[boyyanno]

Sell koleosho for 23m

Sign - Sarmiento, Johnston, Anthony and keep benson

Would we be happy?

Not in a million years for me.

Lose Odobert and Koleosho and replace with two of those? Makes me shudder.

Whilst I agree we won't replace quality for quality we surely have to go out and try and get a big player if we're losing both of those.

We'd have to go and get Rowe from Norwich or somthing to make me even close to happy.

[willsclarets]

I'd be a lot happier if we sign a proven goalscorer. I like Foster but he isn't the answer unfortunately. With Obafemi out and Weghorst likely going we can't be relying on him and Jay. Hountodji may be the answer but he looks a bit raw at the moment.

Depends on Amdouni, too. If he goes then we absolutely need a striker.

[blatherwickstattoos]

I'd be a lot happier if we sign a proven goalscorer. I like Foster but he isn't the answer unfortunately. With Obafemi out and Weghorst likely going we can't be relying on him and Jay. Hountodji may be the answer but he looks a bit raw at the moment.

Hountodji is not the answer

[Woodleyclaret]

No sale of Luca at any price

[Jakubs Tash]

Sell koleosho for 23m

Sign - Sarmiento, Johnston, Anthony and keep benson

Would we be happy?

Yes!

As well as another CM (as well as Hannibal) and another centre forward.

Hope Parker uses his loans to our advantage and brings some Premier League quality in.

[123EasyasBFC]

I'd be a lot happier if we sign a proven goalscorer. I like Foster but he isn't the answer unfortunately. With Obafemi out and Weghorst likely going we can't be relying on him and Jay. Hountodji may be the answer but he looks a bit raw at the moment.

Yes I would like another number 9 to

[JimmyRobbo]

I never said it doesn't make sense from business perspective. In fact, I've written a similar thing to you just a few hours ago. But when you get of rid 5 wingers in two weeks and replace them with 2 weaker ones, then I couldn't care less about profit or business.

Fair enough but we could only sign those strong players in the 1st place because of the americans speculating and investing. We hope in the future they will further speculate and invest. Timing is very difficult but both had shown an unwillingness to be week-in and week-out performers. I didn't recoginse that in the first months.

I'm absoluely fine with them moving on for substantial profit. Who knows, Tresor may actually turn into a player for us. Perhaps the new signings will be even better at this level and more resilient?

I've been around long enough in football to know that nobody is irreplaceable, especially players who appear to be fragile. I'm happy with the business being conducted provided they re-invest. That is kind of what ALK is set up to do. They are investors. We will be able afford much better players in the future. Perhaps in 12months. Perhaps 24 months. Perhaps this week.

No need to panic and look backwards. Change shouldn't be our enemy. It is natural.

[Row x]

Did you see Benson come off the bench against Wolves at home and nearly win us a three points in April?

Did you see Zaroury (and Benson) bag two goals in the FA Cup against PL Bournemouth after the world cup in a 4-2 win?

Did you see Zaroury also play #10 away in the Cup at Spurs setting Amdouni up with a golden chance with a fantastic piece of skill?

Nah of course, not, just go along with the same b0llocks myth, rather than suggesting that maybe just maybe consistency is an issue in all young players and their treatment off our previous manager has negatively impacted both of them?

So... Zaroury 2 good games since Christmas 2022
Benson 1 good game and a nearly game
Thanks for your reply, but I'll stick with my original opinion

[123EasyasBFC]

Not in a million years for me.

Lose Odobert and Koleosho and replace with two of those? Makes me shudder.

Whilst I agree we won't replace quality for quality we surely have to go out and try and get a big player if we're losing both of those.

We'd have to go and get Rowe from Norwich or somthing to make me even close to happy.

I would categorise Odobert and koleosho as the same, for me technically Odobert is far superior than koleosho but koleoshos pace is frightening, wolves is probs the right club in regards to how they play

[Murger]

Worrying that we’re seeing no striker links.

[CoolClaret]

So... Zaroury 2 good games since Christmas 2022
Benson 1 good game and a nearly game
Thanks for your reply, but I'll stick with my original opinion

There's more than that of course, just showing how daft your opinion is. Both key members of a title winning side that lost just 3 games all season and now some 'fans' basically are happy to get shut? Beyond moronic.

[Newcastleclaret93]

So... Zaroury 2 good games since Christmas 2022
Benson 1 good game and a nearly game
Thanks for your reply, but I'll stick with my original opinion

Tbf if it wasn’t for VK ruining them and the majority of this squad you could have built a side around them lads.

Instead we decided to sign a shed load of wingers and throw the lads that got us promoted to the side.

If you can’t see this is a big reason we are in this position then I don’t know what else will.

[123EasyasBFC]

3 medicals today

Hannibal
Sarmiento
Anthony

[burnley007]

3 medicals today

Hannibal
Sarmiento
Anthony

Who is Anthony?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Who is Anthony?

Winger at Bournemouth

[123EasyasBFC]

Who is Anthony?

Jaidon Anthony, was on loan at Leeds last season but played second fiddle to Summerville.

Had his breakthrough season under Parker in the champ

[mybloodisclaret]

Not sure how wise it is to name players who are having medicals, but then I suppose that is the point of the thread.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

We need to keep Kolo at all costs for his pace and assists.

How much debt does the club have loaded on it?

[Row x]

Tbf if it wasn’t for VK ruining them and the majority of this squad you could have built a side around them lads.

Instead we decided to sign a shed load of wingers and throw the lads that got us promoted to the side.

If you can’t see this is a big reason we are in this position then I don’t know what else will.

I've not said what the reason was, just replying to someone who would prefer to stick with Benson and Zaroury. I would agree had they both continued their form from certain times in the championship season, but for whatever the reason they didn't, and that's where we are at.

[burnley007]

Jaidon Anthony, was on loan at Leeds last season but played second fiddle to Summerville.

Had his breakthrough season under Parker in the champ

aah, cheers.

He's not especially young at 24.

[Rileybobs]

Seems a lot of supporters on here sit at home and their wages come through the letterbox.
Try running a business and see how difficult it is.

And in your business do you employ staff? And does the performance of your business primarily correlate with the teamwork and cohesion of said staff? If so, do you employ your staff on temporary contracts or operate a hire and fire policy?

[Rileybobs]

Imagine what we could get for Sarmiento and Anthony in January if they hit the ground running.

[123EasyasBFC]

aah, cheers.

He's not especially young at 24.

Tbh having a player at 24 who’s just come off a loan spell he is probably looking for a club to stay at, very much in the worrall mould of looking for a home.

I would must prefer that then 19/20 year olds who are looking to jump at first chance they get

[ClaretAL]

Tbf if it wasn’t for VK ruining them and the majority of this squad you could have built a side around them lads.

Instead we decided to sign a shed load of wingers and throw the lads that got us promoted to the side.

Agree with this, and I presume SP is having to deal with the backlash of that and walking across scorched earth trying to get them back on side with not takers. In which case he is right to adopt the if you don't want to be here approach, and bring in players he feels will give 100%. For that to happen we need to crate the funds and taking emotion out of it, I think the figures coming in are reasonable. All that said there is a fine line on how quickly you put all that in to place and if this would have been in July giving us a month to get new players in and adapting to the SP style of play, it may not have been so bad.

I have see a lot saying keep for one more year and then sell, but if they don't want to be here what is the point in keeping them to run out every weekend and not give 100% compared to someone you can get in who will. Totally understand the frustration and I too share it, but we have a perfect storm situation, that some how we need to sail through, and we are doing that very close to the wind.

[Tribesmen]

Every time i open this thread i think who's gone now .

But you have to keep reading , don't you ?

[Row x]

There's more than that of course, just showing how daft your opinion is. Both key members of a title winning side that lost just 3 games all season and now some 'fans' basically are happy to get shut? Beyond moronic.

Thanks for the abuse, but if you could point out where I said I was happy to get shut

[123EasyasBFC]

Not sure how wise it is to name players who are having medicals, but then I suppose that is the point of the thread.

What difference does naming them on up the clarets make? Could all be b*llocks anyway

[burnley007]

Tbh having a player at 24 who’s just come off a loan spell he is probably looking for a club to stay at, very much in the worrall mould of looking for a home.

I would must prefer that then 19/20 year olds who are looking to jump at first chance they get

Like O'Shea for instance? 24, looking to make a home...