Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Ziggy Stardust]

Yeah, realise that, but in the alternative scenario it’s a lot of money to commit for a single year when we are used to buying players for similar fees last time we were in the Championship (Pires c.£2m too).

Your not happy with all the players leaving. Now your moaning about 2m for loan when were desperate for players? Just can't please some people.

[TINNIES]

TINNIES

[Commy]

How many times have people actually watched these wingers that we are signing? They seem to be rated by their clubs fans but aren't deemed good enough for us.

[Hedontplayforyou]

TINNIES

[CoolClaret]

Some of these players are an absolute disgrace.

Hey it took you a year but at least you agree now.

[Goody1975]

Well if that's the case and your info has been good previously, it is going to be a long season.

As much as it jeopardises the quality. I don't want a single one of these players who want out featuring against Rovers Saturday. It's not a game for players who are thinking about moves and protecting themselves, we need men who will give it there all.

The window will have shut by Saturday, so unless they are sulking they will probably be focused on the task at hand.

[123EasyasBFC]

Totally agree. Going 100% into any one ideology will always end up backfiring.

Not to mention, the real smart clubs get the players before there's much data about them, before they've played senior games - that's where you get the undiscovered gems (easier said than done of course).

Benfica's scouting network and player development is truly incredible and it makes them a mint.

Honestly, I'd love it if we brought in someone that's worked in a setup such as that or in the RB system/equivalent.

Alan pace also referenced Brighton but Brighton still have Lewis dunk, Webster, Milner and welbeck featuring who certainly weren’t data signings

[ArmchairDetective]

TINNIES

Lol what is this account

[Vegas Claret]

Not sure I understand the dislike of Anthony as a signing.

Good record in the Championship under Parker.

it's because he's not Mbappe

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Amdouni signed for Benfica for loan and €15m obligation to buy, we paid €18m for him, so it's not even about profit anymore, just whatever we can get for people.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Alan pace also referenced Brighton but Brighton still have Lewis dunk, Webster, Milner and welbeck featuring who certainly weren’t data signings

He can reference Brighton all he wants, they are bankrolled by their owner . Our owners don’t have a pot to **** in seemingly .

[Claretnick]

How the hell does sp conduct training sessions for upcoming games with all this going on

Surely that's the point of an U21 Squad.Okay it's not ideal but some of these lads might relish the chance of playing Wolves tomorrow.

[123EasyasBFC]

He can reference Brighton all he wants, they are bankrolled by their owner . Our owners don’t have a pot to **** in seemingly .

The point I was making is they don’t just sign players based on data

[Vegas Claret]

Chelsea after Toney. How many players can we loan from them?

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[NewClaret]

Your not happy with all the players leaving. Now your moaning about 2m for loan when were desperate for players? Just can't please some people.

Well those two things are connected, aren’t they?

So we’re selling Zaroury, for example, for £7m but spending £2m of it loaning a player for a season.

Are you happy with that?

[RVclaret]

Amdouni signed for Benfica for loan and €15m obligation to buy, we paid €18m for him, so it's not even about profit anymore, just whatever we can get for people.

We paid €15m according to Mission to Burnley which referenced him signing at £13.5m. €18m prob included clauses which won’t get met.

[wilks_bfc]

Surely that's the point of an U21 Squad.Okay it's not ideal but some of these lads might relish the chance of playing Wolves tomorrow.

That would be great if they hadn’t been playing in Bournemouth today

[Sapperclaret73]

Esteve posting a picture of himself in training with UTC caption.

Name a stand after him.

[NewClaret]

We paid €15m according to Mission to Burnley which referenced him signing at £13.5m. €18m prob included clauses which won’t get met.

Presumably also a loan fee for this year too. Small profit, I’d guess.

Bad business all around though. Would’ve been worth a lot more after half a season in the Championship.

[Vegas Claret]

Amdouni signed for Benfica for loan and €15m obligation to buy, we paid €18m for him, so it's not even about profit anymore, just whatever we can get for people.

how much of that 18 was add ons ?

[claretskeith]

Esteve posting a picture of himself in training with UTC caption.

Name a stand after him.

We actually have someone with us. Fair play.

[jedi_master]

Esteve posting a picture of himself in training with UTC caption.

Name a stand after him.

The fact we’re honoured by a player doing what he’s paid to do. Guess that’s where we’re at! Good on him though.

[Stonehouse]

So we’ve a line up of possibles Trafford /Green/Hladky
Roberts/Sambo/Vitinho. Worrall. Esteve/Humphreys. Pires

Brownhill Cullen Massengo

Rodriguez. Foster. Hountondji
Plus Egan-Riley McNally
Plus injured Ramsey Beyer Ekdal Redmond
I suppose we could play defensive and push Roberts into midfield.

[AfloatinClaret]

As we stand team for Saturday and bench / squad when all fit. Named squad of 25 and under 21’s additional for homegrown

Hladky,

Roberts, esteve , worral , pires

Hannibal, Cullen, Brownhill

Koleosho, Vitinho ,

Foster,

Bench
Sarmiento, Anthony, Green , sambo , Ekdal, Beyer, Humphreys, Egan-Riley
Massengo, , Ramsey, Hountondji, Jay Rod . Dodgson, McNally, Delcroix,
Redmond, Agyei

I'd certainly fancy that line up to roll over Blackburn with ease.

[Suntan]

We will probably need 7 or 8 in at this rate

As for Koleosho, 3m bought. 15 starts last season - 1 goal (against Sheff Utd) 1 assist

Sell for 25 million?

Not the worst deal in the world

Exactly!

[Ziggy Stardust]

Well those two things are connected, aren’t they?

So we’re selling Zaroury, for example, for £7m but spending £2m of it loaning a player for a season.

Are you happy with that?

Yes, that's how loans work, they're not free. Do you think we haven't pulled enough money in the last 2 weeks to pay for this. Id like to see your reaction if it came out we wouldn't pay the 2m for the loan and we went elsewhere.

[colne-claret]

Exactly!

It’s great if we reinvest. We are running out of time.

[DeanMarneysACL]

Lol what is this account

We haven’t turned ClaretTony to drink have we and it’s ClaretTinnies now?!

[Commy]

I'm surprised Matt hasn't asked to be transferred.

[Stonehouse]

I'd certainly fancy that line up to roll over Blackburn with ease.

What without any wingers?

[dandeclaret]

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[Hedontplayforyou]

The point I was making is they don’t just sign players based on data

I know, but I took the opportunity to vent my frustration and point out that if space thinks he can emulate Brighton he’s going to be disappointed

[CoolClaret]

You could just tell Esteve was a good kid from the glowing report from Montpellier, his words about his former club and the interview that he did at the start of the season.

[Hedontplayforyou]

That would be great if they hadn’t been playing in Bournemouth today

The three lads on the bench at the weekend were not in the squad today

[Jakubclaret]

The one thing this afternoon that has virtually sickened me is news about Foster. wanting away. I saw him on Mission 2, crying and saying he was in a dark place. From what I saw last season the club bent over backwards to get him the best possible support and get him playing again. Having struggled recently myself I could fully relate to it. Now he wants away.Have to say its one thing a club still buying you after recovering from a serious physical injury , however once its well documented that you have had serious mental issues firstly prior to joining Burnley, and secondly after joining, clubs have to be very brave in paying a significant fee. I suspect the fee would be around £20m-bear in mind Arsenal got Trossard for that sort of fee. I also doubt if he would break into the Brentford team, putting him under pressure to perform

Without speculating have you never considered with whats happening at the moment staying at the club is worsening his current condition & that's why he wants to leave (assuming it's true). People suffering mental health issues need stability & settled environments not upheaval like this. We did know about his past I can remember having a few arguments about it when some people denied we had any knowledge prior to signing him.

[gawthorpe_view]

You could just tell Esteve was a good kid from the glowing report from Montpellier, his words about his former club and the interview that he did at the start of the season.

Well that's jinxed it.
Sold tomorrow.,

[Sapperclaret73]

The fact we’re honoured by a player doing what he’s paid to do. Guess that’s where we’re at! Good on him though.

I’m just looking for the smallest of positives. Not many out there at the moment.

[NewClaret]

Yes, that's how loans work, they're not free. Do you think we haven't pulled enough money in the last 2 weeks to pay for this. Id like to see your reaction if it came out we wouldn't pay the 2m for the loan and we went elsewhere.

Well to be honest with this particular player I would be quite relieved (if I’m wrong about him I’ll hold my hands up in a few months time).

I realise that loans are not free, but selling players - fan favourites like Zaroury - and then loaning other teams players for large fees does not feel great business. Does it to you?

[kentonclaret]

Not too difficult to envisage Alan Pace going into panic mode in January asking Scott Parker which positions he needs filling to try and rescue a season wrecked by a disastrous Summer of transfer mayhem.

[Conroysleftfoot]

Esteve posting a picture of himself in training with UTC caption.

Name a stand after him.

He'll be a club legend if he stays another week.

[kentonclaret]

Without speculating have you never considered with whats happening at the moment staying at the club is worsening his current condition & that's why he wants to leave (assuming it's true). People suffering mental health issues need stability & settled environments not upheaval like this. We did know about his past I can remember having a few arguments about it when some people denied we had any knowledge prior to signing him.

If the club environment is as toxic as some are claiming not the ideal environment for Hannibal or any new players to be stepping in to.

[Rowls]

Glorious return for TINNIES.

One of the finest accounts on here.

We all have much to learn from TINNIES.

[Hibsclaret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecFPU--vvf0

And I want and I need Hannibal.

Quickly

[ksrclaret]

I've not seen the respective news/ posts myself, but it is nice if Vitinho and Esteve have pledged their loyalty to us in their own way after what has been an absolutely turbulent week for us.

Trying to catch up on the news from today is almost impossible. Things are changing by the hour, Scott Parker said on Saturday. He doesn't do hyperbole.

[colne-claret]

I heard contradictory news on Vitinho and that he wants out just not Brazil. Let’s wait and see.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Well to be honest with this particular player I would be quite relieved (if I’m wrong about him I’ll hold my hands up in a few months time).

I realise that loans are not free, but selling players - fan favourites like Zaroury - and then loaning other teams players for large fees does not feel great business. Does it to you?

Not ideal, but Zaroury wanted out and we have a similar player who is hungry and wants to impress rather than a sulking one who wants leave. No brainer for me.

[Commy]

In the interview Vitinho said he wanted to stay in Europe but did then say 'here'. Whether that meant Burnley or Europe is anyones guess.

[Hibsclaret]

Vitinho looked like he wanted out of the profession at Sunderland after looking like he could play in the blue and yellow of Brazil (at Luton). Wait and see.

[midlands claret]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/club-run-int ... sfer-idea/

the report on Vitinho and what he would like

[agreenwood]

Seen a few comments having a pop at Koleosho and Foster for not showing more loyalty. IF they actually want to go and we haven’t now just reached the **** stirring phase of a crisis, I think this is unfair.

Hopefully it’s a basic practice for your employer to show patience and understanding when injury or illness prevents you from doing your job. It shouldn’t prevent you from trying to better yourself when you recover.