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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by jos » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:55 pm

Talksport Hawksby and Jacob’s were reading the text/message out over the radio when I jumped in the car. It sounded quite scathing against the players.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by 1989_claret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:48 pm

While goalkeeper James Trafford - a £19m signing from Manchester City - and midfielders Josh Brownhill and Josh Cullen are given rave reviews, others are not so fortunate.

Winger Manuel Benson’s value has “diminished as lazy/not good attitude - they should have took that money as made a mistake keeping him”.

Belgian midfielder Mike Tresor also receives critical feedback: “Cost £14 million! And he’s not good at all - hardly played last season - lightweight and poor attitude - big waste of money”.

Defender Ameen Al-Dakhil - linked with a move to German club Stuttgart - is described as “miles off it in the Premier League and really struggled and after playing game after game got binned and never played again - too skinny and weak for England.”

And defender Luke McNally was critiqued for his “strange athletic shape” while centre back Hannes Delcroix was labelled “rubbish - just a poor player and Vinny’s signing from Belgium”.

Meanwhile forward Michael Mellon was called “lazy” while winger Darko Churlinov - currently on loan to a Polish club - was described as “a disaster - mad guy - on loan as they just need him out the place”.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by 1989_claret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:49 pm

1989_claret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:48 pm
While goalkeeper James Trafford - a £19m signing from Manchester City - and midfielders Josh Brownhill and Josh Cullen are given rave reviews, others are not so fortunate.

Winger Manuel Benson’s value has “diminished as lazy/not good attitude - they should have took that money as made a mistake keeping him”.

Belgian midfielder Mike Tresor also receives critical feedback: “Cost £14 million! And he’s not good at all - hardly played last season - lightweight and poor attitude - big waste of money”.

Defender Ameen Al-Dakhil - linked with a move to German club Stuttgart - is described as “miles off it in the Premier League and really struggled and after playing game after game got binned and never played again - too skinny and weak for England.”

And defender Luke McNally was critiqued for his “strange athletic shape” while centre back Hannes Delcroix was labelled “rubbish - just a poor player and Vinny’s signing from Belgium”.

Meanwhile forward Michael Mellon was called “lazy” while winger Darko Churlinov - currently on loan to a Polish club - was described as “a disaster - mad guy - on loan as they just need him out the place”.
Pretty spot on tbh and just states the obvious :lol:

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:52 pm

1989_claret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:49 pm
Pretty spot on tbh and just states the obvious :lol:
Absolutely.

The only two I'm 50:50 with are Al-Dakhil and MM, but to be fair I don't watch him train day in day out so wouldn't know.
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:54 pm

Anyone looking for a new job? Mandatory requirement that you know how to use WhatsApp correctly....

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:56 pm

it doesnt read like it was written by someone in a professional footballing capacity, they could have lifted that from here tbf

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:56 pm

At least Jon Pepper could use whatsapp!
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by HollandsPies » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:17 pm

To me, this reads like an employee of BFC going through the team and giving his opinion on each one. And sending it to a mate/colleague at another club. Not too dissimilar to our own 'player ratings' threads.

How many of us have done similar at our own places of employment?

Unfortunately, the idiot sent the list to the wrong person. And nothing to do with 'a report for the Directors'.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:35 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:56 pm
At least Jon Pepper could use whatsapp!
Jon did a really good job with the academy, lifting us from Cat 3 to Cat 1.
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Blondeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:35 pm
Jon did a really good job with the academy, lifting us from Cat 3 to Cat 1.
John Pepper did a fantastic job during his time at Burnley and
Nobody seems to know why he was given notice and replaced with Paul Jenkins who it was very obvious to see that he wasn’t competent in the role as the club were relegated to Category 2.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Toby Carvery » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:42 pm

Now searching for the fourth Academy Manager on ALK’s watch. Is that four in four years?
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Blondeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:42 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:54 pm
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This is for head of academy coaching role no the academy managers position.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:42 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:40 pm
John Pepper did a fantastic job during his time at Burnley and
Nobody seems to know why he was given notice and replaced with Paul Jenkins who it was very obvious to see that he wasn’t competent in the role as the club were relegated to Category 2.
Strange decision really given how good a job Jon had done

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:45 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:42 pm
This is for head of academy coaching role no the academy managers position.
Wrong one! :D

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:03 pm

I bet those players are now ******* themselves after mostly getting big money moves whilst this plonker picks up his Jobseeker’s Allowance.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Blondeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:07 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:45 pm
Wrong one! :D

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Also head of academy goalkeeping advertised.
Looks like a complete clear out of academy staff.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:13 pm

I mentioned the rumour in the Sunderland v Burnley thread. From a very good source.

To be honest what I’ve seen in his analysis is spot on tbh

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:29 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:07 pm
Also head of academy goalkeeping advertised.
Looks like a complete clear out of academy staff.
Yep, surely can't be a coincidence....

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Row x » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:32 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:13 pm
I mentioned the rumour in the Sunderland v Burnley thread. From a very good source.

To be honest what I’ve seen in his analysis is spot on tbh
I've seen the version being circulated on twitter, but difficult to read properly on a phone
Quite clearly meant for someone outside the club, with no knowledge of the players history

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:44 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:07 pm
Also head of academy goalkeeping advertised.
Looks like a complete clear out of academy staff.
I think that’s because Connor King has stepped up to work with the new first team goalkeeping coach who the club still haven’t announced.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:44 pm
I think that’s because Connor King has stepped up to work with the new first team goalkeeping coach who the club still haven’t announced.
I don’t get why they do this, you saw Connor king on the bench at Luton and Cardiff, just announce it

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Andingle » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:37 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:07 pm
Also head of academy goalkeeping advertised.
Looks like a complete clear out of academy staff.
The Head of Academy Coaching is moving into an FA role I believe.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by beeholeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:40 pm

Looks like Alan wanted a bit of help with his ‘Fantasy League” team. 😉

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Blondeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:58 pm

Andingle wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:37 pm
The Head of Academy Coaching is moving into an FA role I believe.
Think that was the previous chap about 3/4 yrs ago.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:03 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:05 pm
I don’t get why they do this, you saw Connor king on the bench at Luton and Cardiff, just announce it

Just like they haven’t bothered to announce this. Pic taken yesterday at Bournemouth.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:03 pm
Just like they haven’t bothered to announce this. Pic taken yesterday at Bournemouth.


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Yeah and he was pictured in his car coming out of training ground, they just don’t read the room, announcing cork coming back in any capacity would just give a little bit of feel good

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Andingle » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:06 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:58 pm
Think that was the previous chap about 3/4 yrs ago.
No it's the current incumbent.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:07 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:05 pm
Yeah and he was pictured in his car coming out of training ground, they just don’t read the room, announcing cork coming back in any capacity would just give a little bit of feel good
It really is beyond me. The lack of communication continues to be taken to a new level.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Gp8419 » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:07 pm
It really is beyond me. The lack of communication continues to be taken to a new level.
Apologies but why would cork be at Bournemouth ? Was it a youth match?

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by HollandsPies » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:24 pm

U21s, Gp8419
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:07 pm
It really is beyond me. The lack of communication continues to be taken to a new level.
To quote “Rusty Balls” calm down it’s a process… or words to that effect

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:41 pm

Blondeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:40 pm
John Pepper did a fantastic job during his time at Burnley and
Nobody seems to know why he was given notice and replaced with Paul Jenkins who it was very obvious to see that he wasn’t competent in the role as the club were relegated to Category 2.
Can you rank

Blake
Jenkins
WhatsApp lad

Just so I can benchmark correctly…..

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Blondeclaret » Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:52 pm

Andingle wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:06 pm
No it's the current incumbent.
Sorry well that’s the second one that gone over to the fa then.

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Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:06 pm

I had Benny as the strange shape.

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:08 pm

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:11 pm

Bet the players were seething over the monochrome badge.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:36 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:27 pm
To quote “Rusty Balls” calm down it’s a process… or words to that effect
A weird process though :D
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:08 pm
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I mean other than being a melon for sending it to the wrong person he's not got a lot wrong there has he
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:50 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:08 pm
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English not Dave’s strong point, I take it?

I’d be embarrassed if my twelve year old wrote that.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:13 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:48 pm
I mean other than being a melon for sending it to the wrong person he's not got a lot wrong there has he
Apart from providing the level of analysis that I’d expect your average junior supporter be able to provide.

What a shambles our club has become.
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Raconteur » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:21 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:48 pm
I mean other than being a melon for sending it to the wrong person he's not got a lot wrong there has he
He thought we signed Twine from Oxford for one.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by jedi_master » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:21 pm

I just can’t get my head around who such a document would be intended for.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by RHansburyEsq » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:29 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:21 pm
I just can’t get my head around who such a document would be intended for.
Agree entirely. Bizarre. On headed notepaper as well,so more than general musings (assuming this is the original I suppose?)

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:31 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:21 pm
I just can’t get my head around who such a document would be intended for.
And not really the scathing criticism that would have players wanting to leave in their droves either.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:31 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:21 pm
I just can’t get my head around who such a document would be intended for.
My opinion, and it’s only my opinion, is that the board/Pace have asked the Academy Manager to draw up the list so they can identify what to do in the transfer market in the absence of having a manager at the time.

Edit- and the fact he has resigned instead of being sacked.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:35 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:31 pm
My opinion, and it’s only my opinion, is that the board/Pace have asked the Academy Manager to draw up the list so they can identify what to do in the transfer market in the absence of having a manager at the time.

Edit- and the fact he has resigned instead of being sacked.
But why would he be telling the board when they signed and for how much? Doesn't make sense.
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:37 pm

Our board aren’t football men, and we had 40 players. It wouldn’t be huge surprise if they didn’t even know some of their names, let alone their price and when they signed.
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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:39 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:31 pm
My opinion, and it’s only my opinion, is that the board/Pace have asked the Academy Manager to draw up the list so they can identify what to do in the transfer market in the absence of having a manager at the time.
Biggest surprise for me is that we actually employ and pay someone to provide an analysis of players which any one of us could have done a better job on.
It’s so amateurish and basic it looks like a prank….unfortunately for us it’s not.

It’s difficult to remember a time when the wheels have fallen off so quickly. Yes we have had some terrible times in the last few decades but many of them were a slow death / gradual decline over many years of negligence, poor management and lack of investment.

This one has just come out of the blue in terms of the extent and scale of carnage. It seems impossible to understand the end goal or why they have taken such drastic action. Of course it’s likely we have a hole in our finances but there has to be more too it than that and there is a chasm between the owners and the fans.

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Re: Academy director leaving?

Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:41 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:37 pm
Our board aren’t football men, and we had 40 players. It wouldn’t be huge surprise if they didn’t even know some of their names, let alone their price and when they signed.
They’re supposedly money men….. They should be all over the numbers.

If you were going to ask someone, why the Academy Manager? Doesn’t stack up for me.

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