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Post by fanzone » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:54 pm

The football is abysmal. Absolutely shambolic.

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Post by Cooclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:54 pm
The football is abysmal. Absolutely shambolic.
Who?

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm

You might have gone a bit early here!

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Post by whiffa » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm

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Post by claret2018 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm

We’re 2nd

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Post by fatboy47 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:56 pm

At the game were you..got home quick?
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Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:57 pm

Haha at the OP!!

Clearly not a shambles, is it.

Frustrating, yes. Who would you play to score the goals? Perhaps he realises that. Perhaps, we're better off not losing by chasing a goal that nobody is really capable of scoring.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:57 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm
Who?
He could be meaning the last few months of Sean Dyche.
Who knows when they don't name names. 🙄

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:57 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:55 pm
We’re 2nd
Its dull though isn't it?

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:58 pm

I actually agree. The football is terrible, square pegs in round holes. Yes we have a long injury list, yes we are still 2nd, but this staying in games for 80 mins and then deciding to throw on strikers is shocking management. I know we shouldn't feel entitled but we should be destroying teams like this. Flemming up front when he isn't a striker and 2 on the bench, at least play players in their right position

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:59 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:57 pm
Haha at the OP!!

Clearly not a shambles, is it.

Frustrating, yes. Who would you play to score the goals? Perhaps he realises that. Perhaps, we're better off not losing by chasing a goal that nobody is really capable of scoring.
Are you serious? There are two strikers on the bench
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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:00 pm

It is like England, play players that are favourites and just shoe horn them in even if it's in the wrong position

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Post by Blyclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:01 pm

We need to get rid of Foster Jay Rod and Houdini in January.
We need at least 2 new strikers
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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm

Someone forgot to take their tablets

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Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:59 pm
Are you serious? There are two strikers on the bench
Great comment.

Remind me of those goal threats.

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Post by Safron » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm

He certainly knows how to kill the excitement of football on a Saturday and drive you to drink
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm
Someone forgot to take their tablets
Set yourself a reminder!
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Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:05 pm

Give over please, he came in and was shafted, look how many left in transfer window, he's done well to have us in top 2 ...
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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:05 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm
Great comment.

Remind me of those goal threats.
If we don't play them we aren't going to see are we. You only have to look at the Championship every year and the likes of Jutkiewiecz and many other mid 30 yr old strikers that still bang them in, I am not saying Jay Rod is the player he was, but he is better than a Flemming that isn't an out and out striker. Hountandji, how de we know what he is capable of without giving him a run, by doing that it allows Flemming to play where he should be, instead we are set up so that we can play three midfielders which just constantly are squeezed by these teams happy to get a point.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:06 pm

Why did Jay get a contract if he can't play anymore. He is literally a pointless player to have at the club.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:06 pm

I said before we appointed him that he wouldn’t have been in my top 100 candidates.

I’m afraid he still wouldn’t be.

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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:06 pm

It’s bad . Very bad

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:09 pm

It’s very poor to watch. Can’t knock being 2nd though. Got to wait and see where we are at the end of the season. If he doesn’t get us promoted though, then I think there’s a big decision to make.

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Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:09 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:05 pm
If we don't play them we aren't going to see are we. You only have to look at the Championship every year and the likes of Jutkiewiecz and many other mid 30 yr old strikers that still bang them in, I am not saying Jay Rod is the player he was, but he is better than a Flemming that isn't an out and out striker. Hountandji, how de we know what he is capable of without giving him a run, by doing that it allows Flemming to play where he should be, instead we are set up so that we can play three midfielders which just constantly are squeezed by these teams happy to get a point.
When did Jayrod last score? Have you watched him play? Today? He might never score again at this level.

I love him. I htink he gives us a lot of experience. He can help defend from the front. He is not a goal threat any more.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:09 pm

Imagine being this bad and still 2nd. What a world
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Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:11 pm

It's boring and I think for the first time since I started watching there isn't a reason for it to be boring. This is Parkerball.

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Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:12 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:06 pm
I said before we appointed him that he wouldn’t have been in my top 100 candidates.

I’m afraid he still wouldn’t be.
He had the best record and was the outstanding candidate.
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:12 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:09 pm
Imagine being this bad and still 2nd. What a world
Imagine eh - It's dull though isn't it.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:13 pm

ok, lets play the game - and replace him with who ?

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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:13 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:12 pm
Imagine eh - It's dull though isn't it.
Thought they played a bit better today tbh, just no killer instinct

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Post by Pearcey » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm

This is definitely a fan who has really only watched us in the Premier League isn’t it? The style over substance brigade are out in force. We’re a solid side and we have lots of top players out injured. We’re doing bloody well to be sat where we are.
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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:15 pm

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:12 pm
He had the best record and was the outstanding candidate.
He got promoted with the best two squads in the league.

At the start of the season we probably had the strongest squad.

If the fire sale was expected (which all the noises coming out of the club suggested it was) then would he still be considered the right person and outstanding candidate? He was also utterly dreadful in his last position.
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:15 pm

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:12 pm
He had the best record and was the outstanding candidate.
No, not having that. He might have got Fulham and Bournemouth promoted but beyond that there was nothing.

He might have spoken well but you only have to dip into his managerial career to know that it is massively incomplete?

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm

Enjoyed the performance today, first half was excellent aside from last ditch QPR defending and several half chances missed. Missing a match winner or two at the moment, a spark for some creativity (JBG) or magic from Benson. Jay Rod and Hountondji offered nothing unfortunately.
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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:15 pm
No, not having that. He might have got Fulham and Bournemouth promoted but beyond that there was nothing.

He might have spoken well but you only have to dip into his managerial career to know that it is massively incomplete?
Who would you have gone for? pep guardiola?

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Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:17 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm
This is definitely a fan who has really only watched us in the Premier League isn’t it? The style over substance brigade are out in force. We’re a solid side and we have lots of top players out injured. We’re doing bloody well to be sat where we are.
Absolutely entitled premier league band waggoners, since when have we moaned about being 2nd in championship. It's astonishing
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Post by scamander » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:18 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:06 pm
I said before we appointed him that he wouldn’t have been in my top 100 candidates.

I’m afraid he still wouldn’t be.
Who were your top 3 candidates? Not trying to be sarcastic, genuine question.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:20 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm
Who would you have gone for? pep guardiola?
Pep wasn't available?

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:20 pm

OP is obviously silly and on the wind up, but it really is heavy going and essentially confirms what we heard from the other fanbases of the teams he's managed. Those who think we're in second or third gear I fear are in for a shock as the season goes on.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:20 pm

scamander wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:18 pm
Who were your top 3 candidates? Not trying to be sarcastic, genuine question.
Well I don’t know who applied for the job, but Parker wasn’t even on my radar until we more or less appointed him.

People will scoff, but I’d have taken Lampard ahead of him.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:21 pm

Scott Parker would definitely take the minus offer on the chase.

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:21 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm
Enjoyed the performance today, first half was excellent aside from last ditch QPR defending and several half chances missed. Missing a match winner or two at the moment, a spark for some creativity (JBG) or magic from Benson. Jay Rod and Hountondji offered nothing unfortunately.
Seriously blaming Jay Rod and Hountandji?

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Post by CalamityClaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:21 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm
Who would you have gone for? pep guardiola?
Grow up
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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:23 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:16 pm
Who would you have gone for? pep guardiola?
No.

He invented this passing for the sake of it bore fest.

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Post by NottsClaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:23 pm

We’re almost comically boring to watch. But that’s Parker’s thing, surely we knew that? It’s not waiting to gel, or to get players back.. this is him, consistently.
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:23 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:17 pm
Absolutely entitled premier league band waggoners, since when have we moaned about being 2nd in championship. It's astonishing
Absolute bllx that. I would rather we stayed down and played progressive football. could not give a monkeys about promotion but as I said on the "Zzzzzz" thread this is not good to watch. Still think SP will get us promoted but it's dire football.

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Post by DCWat » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:24 pm

I certainly don’t think we should be considering sacking him. We’ve had enough turnover and need to get back to stability - from where we have achieved the majority of our successes.

What we need is to start seeing signs of improvement and if we are honest, there haven’t been many such signs, so far.

Everything we do is at far too slow a pace. We’re not creating anywhere near enough, despite plenty of possession. The wingers are OK though not causing many problems or creating enough, but for me, the biggest issue remains a lack of quality in the middle.

We have no one able to operate in tight spaces or with the ability to find space. Today and Wednesday, we looked better when we’ve gone with two up top.

Quite why we isolated Flemming again today, I’m not sure. It sort of shows how difficult it’s been for Foster, the way we are setting up.

Half decent signings that many of the players we brought in might be, I can’t quite see how they fit in and in to what system. Parker has a lot of work to do, if we want to be anywhere near the running, come May.

On a positive, we are pretty solid defensively, but bloody hell we are a frustrating and at times, dull watch.
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Post by RVclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:25 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:21 pm
Seriously blaming Jay Rod and Hountandji?
It was a statement saying they offered nothing. In comparison, Benson or JBG would come on in a game like that under Kompany (we had the exact same performances) and win the game. No match winners for that type of game today.

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Post by nyclaret » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:26 pm

The football has been dull so far, there's no sugar-coating it. Considering the injuries and squad turnover, I think SP has done a good job. It will be interesting to see if he can find a way to improve things in an attacking sense, but I think we'll be around the Play-Offs by the end of the season. Whether that’s considered a success or not is up to Pace and ALK (though I doubt they will see it that way).

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Post by Les Lawrence » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:28 pm

Sack Parker and get who?No chance he gets potted,ffs we are second in league.Thpught we were very good first half
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