Muric

[Hipper]

Awful attitude, turned up with a black eye one game, then he was hungover a different game.

Then he was splashing cash in a bar, days before an important game.

I believe he’s only played once for Ipswich and already made two laughable mistakes.

He's played both Premier League matches he was available for. O'Shea hasn't played except in the League Cup draw with Wimbledon. It will be interesting to see their line-up on Saturday.

[BurnleyFC]

I loved Muric while he was here. A cult hero. Modern day Chris Pearce.

[gawthorpe_view]

Wout was a crap keeper - never practised. That really is a bad attitude. He'll never make a keeper.

[Quicknick]

I loved Muric while he was here. A cult hero. Modern day Chris Pearce.

When I lived in Tokyo, I knew a bloke who played in the Japanese league and had played with Pearce at Port Vale. He said that I thought Pearce was a good keeper because I hadn't played in front of him.

[IanMcL]

When I lived in Tokyo, I knew a bloke who played in the Japanese league and had played with Pearce at Port Vale. He said that I thought Pearce was a good keeper because I hadn't played in front of him.

He was a good dancer (perhaps)

[bumba]

Hladky and Trafford are irrelevant in a post about Muric and his misbehaviour

I didn't bring Hladky in to it

[Row x]

I didn't bring Hladky in to it

[bumba]

Read the thread you'll find I'm right

[JimmyRobbo]

Classic Muric v Brentford.

Some excellent stops. Throws a shocker in for the final goal.

[Darnhill Claret]

Bit like Pope today.

[Steve1956]

Championship keeper,to error prone to be a top class keeper

[Stonehouse]

Championship keeper,to error prone to be a top class keeper

He’d look good if he played against us every week.

[Steve1956]

He’d look good if he played against us every week.

Probably.

[Rileybobs]

Hugely out of his depth.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Got really weird about Muric on here last season.

Excellent with his feet but a very average goalkeeper.

[claret2018]

Still one of my favourite Burnley players of recent years. I’d have him back tomorrow.

[KRBFC]

He’s getting laughed at by the Ipswich fans

[Row x]

Still one of my favourite Burnley players of recent years. I’d have him back tomorrow.

Wow...I'd say there were 10 better players in the team he played in and won the league

I certainly wouldn't have someone who refused to play for the club anywhere near it again

[Middle-agedClaret]

That 4th goal for Brentford yesterday wasn’t his finest hour.
Or Dara O’Shea’s either, tbh.

[warksclaret]

I doubt whether McKenna can afford to persevere with him in the team. I think we did good business when selling a player who could not get out of our club quick enough. I think if he fails at Ipswich his days will be limited in this country

[boatshed bill]

Got really weird about Muric on here last season.

Excellent with his feet but a very average goalkeeper.

Cost us any chance of staying up with his basic errors. No better than Trafford, IMO.

[Burnley1989]

Got really weird about Muric on here last season.

Excellent with his feet but a very average goalkeeper.

I agree

[Big Vinny K]

Yep completely agree too.
Hundreds and hundreds of pages of debate last season as to who was the better keeper between Trafford and Muric when the reality was for most fans is that neither was good enough for the Premier League.

Muric has already made 3 or 4 howlers for Ipswich this season which have cost them goals and indeed points. He did the same for us too in his appearances last season.

His decision make in my view is never going to improve. He lacks the focus and correct mindset to cut out his mistakes. He thinks he’s a lot better footballer than he is with his feet - no doubt he is better than most keepers with his feet - bit it’s a special kind of stupid and arrogance that makes you think you are better than premier league strikers !!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Muric has always been crap just a wierd group of fans on here made him out to be a world beater

[JimmyRobbo]

He makes some outstanding saves. He lets in some unbelievable clangers. The 4th yesterday was laughable as nobody was getting near it and he still let it in.

He was probably a better choice for #1 last year as Trafford was still growing into his body and I didn't think he deserved to be dropped. JT will end up being a much better keeper.

I certainly wouldn't have someone who refused to play for the club anywhere near it again

This is the bottom line. I agree.

[DCWat]

I’d be livid if we’d spent as much as Ipswich did on him.

If we can turn a similar profit on Trafford, we’ll have done really well out of two keepers with some good qualities but nowhere near being the complete package.

Trafford has more time on his side, though I doubt that he has the qualities to become a top level keeper.

In his defence, he was chucked in the deep end last season. Kicking aside, he’s looked more solid, in the main, with a manager that’s not throwing him under the bus.

Give me a Pope or a Heaton any day of the week.

[Row x]

I’d be livid if we’d spent as much as Ipswich did on him.

If we can turn a similar profit on Trafford, we’ll have done really well out of two keepers with some good qualities but nowhere near being the complete package.

Trafford has more time on his side, though I doubt that he has the qualities to become a top level keeper.

In his defence, he was chucked in the deep end last season. Kicking aside, he’s looked more solid, in the main, with a manager that’s not throwing him under the bus.

Give me a Pope or a Heaton any day of the week.

Both were great for us, but those birds have flown, pope seems to be making far more errors than he ever made for us.
If the season continues as its started, Trafford will be just fine, and even Iin the Premier league, with a better organised defence, and team set up he probably be OK...world class keepers ain't coming to Burnley

[PremierLeagueClass]

Got really weird about Muric on here last season.

Excellent with his feet but a very average goalkeeper.

It really did. All very strange.

[DesmondHaynes]

A bit of research on James Trafford on the internet.
First Bolton keeper to keep 4 consecutive clean sheets from his debut on wards (aged 18).
The season after he kept 26 clean sheets. A club record. He was also included in the League one team of the season. He was 20 at the time.
When England Under 21s won the Euros he kept 6 clean sheets and saved a penalty in the final.
He struggled in his first season at Burnley, playing in a team that was out well out of its depth.
This season he has 6 clean sheets in 11 games. He is still only 22, very young for a keeper.
Nick Pope and Tom Heaton are amongst the very best we’ve had at Burnley and were a joy to watch, but they were well behind James Trafford in their development when they were his age.

[Stonehouse]

Yep completely agree too.
Hundreds and hundreds of pages of debate last season as to who was the better keeper between Trafford and Muric when the reality was for most fans is that neither was good enough for the Premier League.

Muric has already made 3 or 4 howlers for Ipswich this season which have cost them goals and indeed points. He did the same for us too in his appearances last season.

His decision make in my view is never going to improve. He lacks the focus and correct mindset to cut out his mistakes. He thinks he’s a lot better footballer than he is with his feet - no doubt he is better than most keepers with his feet - bit it’s a special kind of stupid and arrogance that makes you think you are better than premier league strikers !!

He happen should play in midfield with James Tarkowski.

[IanMcL]

Muric was a much better keeper when he returned last season. However, he then let 2 in which were very odd.

3 such occurrences for Ipswich, this season....makes one ponder as to why?

[Claretrew]

We have been spoilt over the last few years with some fantastic keepers, Muric was a character who reminded me of Jenson (beast) good at times and awful at times. Pope, Heaton and Beresford are the ones I rated well. Trafford still has time to develop and I certainly wouldn't write him off. Kompany was more at fault for playing him last season than Trafford. He has definitely looked better this year.

[boatshed bill]

Muric was a much better keeper when he returned last season. However, he then let 2 in which were very odd.

3 such occurrences for Ipswich, this season....makes one ponder as to why?

He does some brilliant stuff but is poor on the basics?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Muric was a much better keeper when he returned last season. However, he then let 2 in which were very odd.

3 such occurrences for Ipswich, this season....makes one ponder as to why?

Because he is a mid table championship keeper that has somehow scrounged a handful of premier league games.

Good keepers don’t throw 5 goals in to there own net in about 20 games

[Big Vinny K]

Muric was a much better keeper when he returned last season. However, he then let 2 in which were very odd.

3 such occurrences for Ipswich, this season....makes one ponder as to why?

Simple - he’s not good enough. And he’s certainly nowhere good enough the Premier League thinking he is Bobby Moore with the ball at his feet.
Even saying he was the better keeper when he came back last season for us is questionable. Whilst I agreed he needed to come back in for Trafford and this should have happened earlier we are looking at a massive mistake every 4 or 5 games in his Premier League career.

How many of those kind of mistakes have say Nick Pope or Tom Heaton made in their whole career. The kind of criticism they get is that they could be better with their kicking or they could have perhaps done “”better” with saving a goal. By the end of this season Danny Baker will be in the editing studio working out which blooper to leave out on his new Muric video.

[Foshiznik]

Down tools in the summer to get a move to Ipswich and now looks like he's downed tools for his country. Could be a good keeper, but clearly isn't made of the right stuff.

[Stalbansclaret]

He’s certainly a very consistent generator of message board debate !!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/595084/mur ... e-view/#47

[Foshiznik]

He’s certainly a very consistent generator of message board debate !!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/595084/mur ... e-view/#47

Appears a very similar view range to here last season. The only issue was both our keepers last season weren't playing great so alot of people ignored the ricks in Muric so much that many on here made him out to be some sort of reincarnation of Lev Yashin.

[Darthlaw]

Interesting a lot of the Ipswich fans are giving Muric the benefit of the doubt, despite several ricks this season, because he's playing behind a new defence every week. That said they have taken draws from Fulham, Brighton, Southampton and Villa. They have lost to City, Liverpool, Wet Spam, Everton and Brentford.

A good chunk of ours last season had the knives out for Trafford early doors despite having an ever changing defence and defeats against Man City, Villa, Tottenham, Man U, Newcastle and Chelsea, whilst we took a win from Luton and a draw at Forest. I can't recall a definitive cock up from him which directly resulted in a goal during the same period.

FWIW, I think this season will show the gap in quality between Championship and PL has now developed into a huge gap in quality within the PL itself.

[Swizzlestick]

Down tools in the summer to get a move to Ipswich and now looks like he's downed tools for his country. Could be a good keeper, but clearly isn't made of the right stuff.

How has he downed tools for his country?

[bfcjg]

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