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Ben Gibson

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:28 pm

What was the problem with him? Wikipedia has him down as making just one appearance for us. Surely he played more games but I seem to remember problems with him but can’t remember what.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:32 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:28 pm
What was the problem with him? Wikipedia has him down as making just one appearance for us. Surely he played more games but I seem to remember problems with him but can’t remember what.
Temperament, Face and attitude didn't fit with the dressing room ...

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by taio » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:38 pm

His main problems were Mee and Tarkowski
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:45 pm

Couldn’t get in the team. Dyche promised him a loan in January. Watford came in for him and Dyche said “but not to relegation rival”. They fell out. It happens.
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by ArmchairDetective » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:35 pm

I remember hearing that he was brought in when it looked as though Ben Mee wasn't renewing his contract. Mee then saw him come in and signed a new deal. Gibson then didn't respond very well to not being in the team. Don't know how true that is, however.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:42 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:38 pm
His main problems were Mee and Tarkowski
Aye.
Don't really think we missed owt.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by JR1882 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:46 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:42 pm
Aye.
Don't really think we missed owt.
Sort of symbolic of what was really shoddy recruitment back then. Club record fee, no one could see where he was gonna get a game. Didn’t use this piece of recruitment to sell Tarks at his peak and instead then let him walk for nothing. Then it turns out we weren’t getting a great character anyway.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Shappie » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:09 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:38 pm
His main problems were Mee and Tarkowski


And dyche

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:19 pm

I think much of the above is probably not far from being accurate. I also think you have to factor in that we were about to enter Europe with the possibility of games most Thursdays right up until Christmas at least. I always suspected Gibson was bought with this in mind and was told he'd be selected for these to give either of the other two a rest. Of course, we ultimately fell short and he was suddenly superfluous to requirements and grumpy.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by ISpeds00 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:19 pm

Sent off on his debut in europe wasnt he?

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by JohnMac » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:21 pm

Coming from Captain at your Club to warming a bench was never a recipe for success. Played in Europe and got sent off then a training ground bust up was rumoured.

Went and trained back at Boro

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:23 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:38 pm
His main problems were Mee and Tarkowski
Not strictly true. We were in wretched form in the first half of the season and he may well have got a chance as a result but was injured.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:24 pm

Didn't get a game because he wasn't good enough.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:37 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:46 pm
Sort of symbolic of what was really shoddy recruitment back then. Club record fee, no one could see where he was gonna get a game. Didn’t use this piece of recruitment to sell Tarks at his peak and instead then let him walk for nothing. Then it turns out we weren’t getting a great character anyway.
The same “ shoddy recruitment “ that brought us Sean Dyche and 7 prem seasons ( oh and 2 champ promotions ,1 as champs ) ??

While Gibson was a high profile replacement for the proposed sale of either Mee or Tarks , he wasn’t prepared to fight for his place or sit out a season like Tarky had to do . He was clearly acting like a flouncing tart because football doesn’t always pan out like you expect .

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:44 pm

Not up to the quality of the incumbents.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by taio » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:52 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:23 pm
Not strictly true. We were in wretched form in the first half of the season and he may well have got a chance as a result but was injured.
We'll never know. But Mee and Tarkowski were too good for him to be selected ahead of them.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:36 pm

As I posted earlier in the match thread: I think that without those three years he lost playing silly buggers (on both sides?) Ben Gibson might well have achieved more in his career.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:39 pm

Guys a waste of space.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by hoosier-daddy » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:39 pm

I thought we signed him because we thought Ben Mee was going to leave but then Mee decided to stay?

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:58 pm

A lot of fiction on this thread. When he signed it had nothing to do with Mee or his contract, that had already been agreed. Dyche wanted Craig Dawson but we went for Alfie Mawson and then Gibson. We had a poor first half of that season but he missed most of that through two lots of surgery but got in for the home game against Everton on Boxing Day which proved to be his only league appearance for us. After that, Tarky & Mee were outstanding.

As for the Watford story, had he been going there we weren’t in any relegation battle. He left to train at Middlesbrough after a training ground incident that Dyche was not involved in.

I don’t think he’s a Premier League defender to be honest, very slow too.
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by EarbyClaret » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:20 pm

Not sure if it is true or not - someone may be able to confirm

The training ground incident was rumoured to be that in a practice match he went over the top of the ball on Phil Bardsley

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:42 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:20 pm
Not sure if it is true or not - someone may be able to confirm

The training ground incident was rumoured to be that in a practice match he went over the top of the ball on Phil Bardsley
He's a brave man if he did.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Jamesy » Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:09 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:42 pm
He's a brave man if he did.
Not sure about this? Although Bardsley had a bit of a reputation, Gibson is a big unit. Don’t think he would have been scared of “Salford Phil”.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:20 am

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:09 pm
Not sure about this? Although Bardsley had a bit of a reputation, Gibson is a big unit. Don’t think he would have been scared of “Salford Phil”.
'Not the face Phil, not the face'. I can hear that now - Bardsley would likely knock Gibson into next week in an out and out scrap.
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Claret Toni » Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:45 am

Bardsley and Rooney (former team mates at MUFC) had a bit of a spar at Rooney's house - just a bit of fun, but gloves on.

Rooney caught Bardsley with a couple of good one's and Bardsley decked Rooney.

This happened when Bardsley was playing for Sunderland. Just wonder in Gibson knew about it and saw himself as a bit of a hard man, so would do Bardsley. Conjecture, obviously.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:07 pm

Total shite ,falls out with everyone he plays with a vastly inflated ego,totally at odds with his actual ability

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:48 pm

Ben Gibson is just one example of the failed summer we had in 2018, that was the summer to kick on and we wasted best part of 30m on Gibson and Vydra. Gibson was never going to start ahead of Mee and Tarky and Vydra dyche clearly didn’t fancy him from the start. We also wasted money on panic buying Joe hart

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