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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:28 am

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Benrhama doesn't look to have scored many in recent years. While I was a big supporter of Charlie Taylor, he's another yesterday's-man; I don't think he'd make a significant difference this season and will only be going downhill by next.
Suspect Charlie is now on a downward spiral if he cannot get into a poor Saints team. Can see him going on loan if they go down.He is a very reliable defender but has absolutely nothing going forwards in the modern game of being a full back
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:41 am
Benrhama doesn't look to have scored many in recent years. While I was a big supporter of Charlie Taylor, he's another yesterday's-man; I don't think he'd make a significant difference this season and will only be going downhill by next.
3 goals and 4 assists so far this season.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:15 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:59 pm
French article reporting we’ve made contact with Lyon over Benrahma.

https://www.dzfoot.com/verts-deurope/tr ... 71865.html
Tresor for Benrahma anyone?
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Guller Bull » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:29 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:15 pm
Tresor for Benrahma anyone?
That could be the deal that works for all concerned!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ecc » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:39 pm

If he's tempted by Saudi dollars we have no chance.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:00 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:29 pm
That could be the deal that works for all concerned!
Feel it’s very rare a swap deal ever happens but doubt we’d be that keen on swapping a 25 year old for a 29 year old with likely very limited resale value.

If we were to be interested in that, feel Mikautadze is more likely at 24. That might work as he’s also out of favour by all accounts.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:08 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:00 pm
Feel it’s very rare a swap deal ever happens but doubt we’d be that keen on swapping a 25 year old for a 29 year old with likely very limited resale value.

If we were to be interested in that, feel Mikautadze is more likely at 24. That might work as he’s also out of favour by all accounts.
Was thinking of reciprocal loan deal until season end.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Pickles » Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:00 pm
If we were to be interested in that, feel Mikautadze is more likely at 24. That might work as he’s also out of favour by all accounts.
Galatasaray have had a bid of €17m rejected for Mikautadze.

Another Lyon player, Gift Orban, is likely to leave in January.

We were linked with both players under Kompany.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:49 pm

Pickles wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:12 pm
Galatasaray have had a bid of €17m rejected for Mikautadze.

Another Lyon player, Gift Orban, is likely to leave in January.

We were linked with both players under Kompany.
Orban on loan, with an option if we go up.
Perfect
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ArthurNohair » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:24 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:00 pm
Feel it’s very rare a swap deal ever happens but doubt we’d be that keen on swapping a 25 year old for a 29 year old with likely very limited resale value.

If we were to be interested in that, feel Mikautadze is more likely at 24. That might work as he’s also out of favour by all accounts.
Regardless of his age I’d say his resale value would be more than someone who has barely kicked a ball for near 2 seasons despite not having a ‘significant injury’ (bone break ligament damage etc.)

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:49 pm

That result today could do our chances of Jan deals a world of good.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:46 pm

Pickles wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:12 pm
Galatasaray have had a bid of €17m rejected for Mikautadze.

Another Lyon player, Gift Orban, is likely to leave in January.

We were linked with both players under Kompany.
Ah didn’t know that. Big call from Lyon to turn down €17m for a player they’re barely playing.

Unless they are holding out for Magic Mike :D

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:56 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:49 pm
That result today could do our chances of Jan deals a world of good.
Completely agree with this. For the type of deals we’ll probably be looking at (loans with options), being right at the top is going to be a big help!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:19 pm

Jude Bellingham (and his brother) on a ten year deal!

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/jude-b ... e8dc8af298

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:16 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:05 pm
Sambo to go?

https://insidefutbol.com/2024/12/27/out ... es/668819/
Will be a good move for him

He’s not going to feature this season with Humpries & Pires in that position, and if not deemed good enough to play this season he’s not going to play next year if/when promoted

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:18 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:16 pm
Will be a good move for him

He’s not going to feature this season with Humpries & Pires in that position, and if not deemed good enough to play this season he’s not going to play next year if/when promoted
Isnt he a Right Back ?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:21 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:18 pm
Isnt he a Right Back ?
Maybe he is

If that’s the case then replace those two with Roberts & Sonne, it’s the same point :lol:

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by hoosier-daddy » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:21 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:18 pm
Isnt he a Right Back ?
Yup.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:24 am

Gut feeling tells me that we will see a fair few leave and only two or three in:

Trafford - might force a move
Sambo - loan
Ekdal/Delcroix - sell either if not both
Dodgson - loan
Tresor - surely on his way out
Redmond - unsure on this one. Would like to see him play.
Agyei - loan
Massengo - possible loan?
Hountodj - as per Massengo.

If most of the above go depth would then likely be:

Goalkeepers - Traff, Hladky, Green (obv replace Trafford if goes)
Right back - Roberts, Danish lad?
Centre backs - CJ, Esteve, Worrall, Egan, Humphreys*, Beyer**
Left back - Pires, Humphreys*
Centre mid - Cullen, Brownhill, Hannibal, Ramsay, Laurent
Wingers - Sarmiento, Anthony, Koleosho, Benson**
Forwards - Foster, Flemming, Jay

Still looking a solid squad, I’ve included the danish lad which is supposedly a done deal. I suppose he’s technically Peruvian…

I think looking at the squad, the areas that stand out as needing reinforcements is left back albeit I don’t think it’s priority. For me, a right winger is probably the key area we need to improve. You could argue about another striker too.

*duplicated positions
** long term injuries

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:30 am

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:24 am
Gut feeling tells me that we will see a fair few leave and only two or three in:

Trafford - might force a move
Sambo - loan
Ekdal/Delcroix - sell either if not both
Dodgson - loan
Tresor - surely on his way out
Redmond - unsure on this one. Would like to see him play.
Agyei - loan
Massengo - possible loan?
Hountodj - as per Massengo.

If most of the above go depth would then likely be:

Goalkeepers - Traff, Hladky, Green (obv replace Trafford if goes)
Right back - Roberts, Danish lad?
Centre backs - CJ, Esteve, Worrall, Egan, Humphreys*, Beyer**
Left back - Pires, Humphreys*
Centre mid - Cullen, Brownhill, Hannibal, Ramsay, Laurent
Wingers - Sarmiento, Anthony, Koleosho, Benson**
Forwards - Foster, Flemming, Jay

Still looking a solid squad, I’ve included the danish lad which is supposedly a done deal. I suppose he’s technically Peruvian…

I think looking at the squad, the areas that stand out as needing reinforcements is left back albeit I don’t think it’s priority. For me, a right winger is probably the key area we need to improve. You could argue about another striker too.

*duplicated positions
** long term injuries
No sure why Trafford would force a move in January, his stock is only going to get higher as the season goes on, could have his pick of clubs in the summer

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by hoosier-daddy » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:33 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:30 am
No sure why Trafford would force a move in January, his stock is only going to get higher as the season goes on, could have his pick of clubs in the summer
Doesn't seem that kind of person to kick up a fuss. We've stuck by him and given him his chance.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:42 am

We've stuck by him?
Not sure he would see it like that, or his friends and family, but hopefully someone who he respects, will tell him that under the circumstances, it was probably predictable how fans reacted last season.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:10 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:42 am
We've stuck by him?
Not sure he would see it like that, or his friends and family, but hopefully someone who he respects, will tell him that under the circumstances, it was probably predictable how fans reacted last season.
99% of the fans criticism last season wasn’t towards him, but to VK persisting with him when it was clear he wasn’t ready for the Premier league.

You can see both the confidence & relationship between Trafford & the fans has returned
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by The Shire Claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:18 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:10 am
99% of the fans criticism last season wasn’t towards him, but to VK persisting with him when it was clear he wasn’t ready for the Premier league.

You can see both the confidence & relationship between Trafford & the fans has returned
I agree with this to an extent and it was VK’s doing starting him against city..,

But Trafford won’t forget the treatment he got nor should he, it was embarrassing

He didn’t even go to his net till just before KO last season

Some fans need to learn to keep their mouth shut and that will be the main reason if we lose him in Jan

Hope we don’t
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Lambo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:23 am

Absolute Tosh, Traff got massive abuse off this messageboard and still continues to receive sh*te from certain posters
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:09 am

You're right, he got blamed for absolutely everything. Proper schoolground bully tactics seen on here.

I don't think anyone will be leaving who's needed for 1st team duty, no need really. Only 1 I can see is if a decent offer comes in for Brownhill, if he's not signing again. Even then I'd take the loss to keep him till the end of the season.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:16 am

If Traff doesn’t go then it’s likely Hladky will- he didn’t come here to be a reserve keeper

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KlyBfc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:22 am

Be interesting to see if anyone comes in for Egan Riley and if / what we would accept for him, with his contract being up in the summer.

Hopefully we are close to getting him a new deal sorted but who knows.

Same for Browny

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:27 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:22 am
Be interesting to see if anyone comes in for Egan Riley and if / what we would accept for him, with his contract being up in the summer.

Hopefully we are close to getting him a new deal sorted but who knows.

Same for Browny
I thought he signed a 4 year deal?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:30 am

Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:23 am
Absolute Tosh, Traff got massive abuse off this messageboard and still continues to receive sh*te from certain posters
But in the grand scheme of things and much as we might like to think otherwise, this messageboard and the opinions voiced on it, are pretty small potatoes. The feedback and support or otherwise, which JT - and indeed every other player - hear coming from the stands are likely to be a far more significant factor.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:35 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:30 am
No sure why Trafford would force a move in January, his stock is only going to get higher as the season goes on, could have his pick of clubs in the summer
Sounds like he already has prem suitors coming in January. As others have stated, he got lots of abuse and criticism. I’d be surprised if he feels like he needs to show us loyalty.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:37 am

Players in struggling teams, making mistakes and losing matches, get stick on supporters message boards...at every club in the country.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:40 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:37 am
Players in struggling teams, making mistakes and losing matches, get stick on supporters message boards...at every club in the country.
I’ve been watching Burnley for overall around 25 years now and there’s not many players I remember getting as much grief as Trafford. He was getting booed when his name was read out at times. The message board isn’t the only problem.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:43 am

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:35 am
Sounds like he already has prem suitors coming in January. As others have stated, he got lots of abuse and criticism. I’d be surprised if he feels like he needs to show us loyalty.
The report on Newcastle said they couldn’t afford him in January and the spurs link was lazy straight after Forsters two mistakes against United. No way we sell him for 20m.

If he felt so much about the criticism then he would of thrown his toys out the pram in the summer like muric did

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by mdd2 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:53 am

Egan-Riley is too young to leave on a free this coming summer; unless the rules have changed (like Danny Ings wasn’t able to just walk)

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:53 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:43 am
The report on Newcastle said they couldn’t afford him in January and the spurs link was lazy straight after Forsters two mistakes against United. No way we sell him for 20m.

If he felt so much about the criticism then he would of thrown his toys out the pram in the summer like muric did
No I agree on the 20 mil. Got to be minimum 30.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Spijed » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:59 am

Haven't the club got the option to trigger an extra year for Egan-Riley, rather than him being able to walk away for nothing this summer?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:00 am

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:53 am
No I agree on the 20 mil. Got to be minimum 30.
If we are looking to cash in on Trafford at any point we have to use Pickford as an example. Went from Sunderland to Everton for £25M with NO premier league experience and very similar England youth pedigree.
That was £25M before these ridiculous prices we now see players going for.
Also something to consider os when and how Man City's buy back option comes in to play, what was it £60M?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by The Shire Claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:47 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:43 am
The report on Newcastle said they couldn’t afford him in January and the spurs link was lazy straight after Forsters two mistakes against United. No way we sell him for 20m.

If he felt so much about the criticism then he would of thrown his toys out the pram in the summer like muric did
Not everyone throws their toys out but the talk was that he did want away and wouldn’t have blamed him if he did

Fair play he did stay with Muric going

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:53 am

There are definitely still some on this board who have an agenda against Trafford from last season. On the Norwich thread there was one idiot calling him f’in useless.

I doubt a few mugs on here who don’t attend games will be a deciding factor for him forcing a move though. You can see how much the fans at the games appreciate his performances this season.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Terrier » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:56 am

The cricket field singing murics name as trafford stood in the nets was terrible, I wouldn't mind but muric is a disaster waiting to happen as ipswich has found out!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by hoosier-daddy » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:57 am

If we are looking to cash in on Trafford then we wait until the summer. More teams will likely bid and we'll know what division we're in.

It makes no sense whatsoever to sell him now, when we make a lot more money with promotion.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ecc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:57 am

Could we please stay on the subject of this thread?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:33 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:57 am
Could we please stay on the subject of this thread?
Are we not discussing transfer rumours?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ecc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:39 pm

Hi colne-claret,

Not when we go back to criticising to Trafford or Muric or both. I don't see that as "rumours".

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by hoosier-daddy » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:44 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:39 pm
Hi colne-claret,

Not when we go back to criticising to Trafford or Muric or both. I don't see that as "rumours".
There's been some posters who literally say, "Not a rumour but..." - no way on this board would we get a thread only about rumours. Not going to happen.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ecc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:05 pm

Hi hoosier-daddy,

There are three things here:

a) "genuine" rumours supported by links;

b) posters making suggestions;

c) people criticising present or former players.

It's clear, as you rightly say, the thread's not going far on "hard" rumours.

But I just don't see how criticising players fits in here.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:08 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:05 pm
Hi hoosier-daddy,

There are three things here:

a) "genuine" rumours supported by links;

b) posters making suggestions;

c) people criticising present or former players.

It's clear, as you rightly say, the thread's not going far on "hard" rumours.

But I just don't see how criticising players fits in here.
I think it’s been a healthy discussion about why Trafford may or may not want to leave.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Folkestoneclaret » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:29 pm

Some players develop loyalty to the Manager as much as the Club. Trafford cut a vey lonely figure going off on his own at Palace at HT last year - after his errant pass led to Brownhill's red card. I thought at the time ho looked like a young player who needed lifting but there was no one waiting to put an arm around his shoulder. Not much managerial leadership on show there. I wonder if Parker has it....

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