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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:02 pm

Message from my Janner's supporting friend, fee of around £6.5M agreed and probably announced on Friday
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:06 pm

KernowHouseClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:02 pm
Message from my Janner's supporting friend, fee of around £6.5M agreed and probably announced on Friday
Fingers crossed and be interesting to see the PA team sheet

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:09 pm

KernowHouseClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:02 pm
Message from my Janner's supporting friend, fee of around £6.5M agreed and probably announced on Friday
I think that will be good business. Much more realistic than some of the higher numbers being bandied about.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:10 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:06 pm
Fingers crossed and be interesting to see the PA team sheet
Exactly that, if he's in the starting X1 then probably not, otherwise bench or not included gives you a little bit of hope

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:11 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:09 pm
I think that will be good business. Much more realistic than some of the higher numbers being bandied about.
As I said earlier today, don't shoot the messenger, just what I'm being told. He found of course be feeding me bullshit, Wednesday nights teamsheet will be a big clue

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:45 pm

And if true, it could be with another club not necessarily ours.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:59 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:45 pm
And if true, it could be with another club not necessarily ours.
I think the point was it was Burnley who had agreed 6.5m not another club

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:00 pm

Is he a player in demand from several clubs? Know absolutely nothing about him but at least our stockpile of wingers is being refreshed if true.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:05 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:45 pm
And if true, it could be with another club not necessarily ours.
He led me to believe it was indeed Burnley but who knows until something is signed, sealed and delivered

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:14 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:00 pm
Is he a player in demand from several clubs? Know absolutely nothing about him but at least our stockpile of wingers is being refreshed if true.
Wouldn’t call it stockpiling wingers, we have Anthony, Sarmiento and koleosho who are fit wingers and prefer to play from the left.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:14 pm
Wouldn’t call it stockpiling wingers, we have Anthony, Sarmiento and koleosho who are fit wingers and prefer to play from the left.
Yes Benny should get another 10 minutes before getting injured, Redmond needs to be moved on-not sure what he has contributed in one and a half seasons, and Tresor whilst giving us a little bit of hope at Reading is not likely to feature much even if he does not move on this window. THat rather narrows down our wide options-bearing in mind we are likely to see Foster there too in some games

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Blyclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:26 pm

Benson Redmond Tresor looks like their game time will be limited for various reasons. So we need 1st players that can hit ground running.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by rob63 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:29 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:24 pm
West Ham have offered £57m for Jhon Duran.
For that price I'd want Roberto too, to knock the rest of 'em into shape! :D

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:31 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:19 pm
Yes Benny should get another 10 minutes before getting injured, Redmond needs to be moved on-not sure what he has contributed in one and a half seasons, and Tresor whilst giving us a little bit of hope at Reading is not likely to feature much even if he does not move on this window. THat rather narrows down our wide options-bearing in mind we are likely to see Foster there too in some games
Redmond is a weird one, I was excited when he signed because he had that premier league experience but then never started a game and was a bit part player, he then had an unfortunate injury. I still think Redmond could of been very good this year but it all depends on what injuries have done to him

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Commy » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:31 pm
Redmond is a weird one, I was excited when he signed because he had that premier league experience but then never started a game and was a bit part player, he then had an unfortunate injury. I still think Redmond could of been very good this year but it all depends on what injuries have done to him
According to the Plymouth board, Whittaker not in training today. Also, our 'friend' Nixon says Boro offered £4m plus add ons. There is something on X with Fabrizio that says Birmingham have agreed £9m for Whittaker. Speculation is rife :lol: .

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Commy » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:48 pm

Think that was a dodgy account.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:55 pm

If you had to choose between Cannon or Whitaker, who would you choose? Sounds like Cannon will cost a fair bit more, but I'm not sure I'd choose him over Whitaker.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:56 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:31 am
Liking these Sheffield purchases. Apart from the Cannon one because Moore is a weak link. Who would they drop for Oxlade Chamberlain or BBD - Hamer, O Hare? Could be a lot of players who aren’t renowned for tracking back. These tactics are a balance, Wilder may be starting to panic and they may start shipping goals. They will soon hit a run of games where they get Boro H, Luton A, Leeds H and QPR A (the latter with more points in the last dozen games or so).

I suspect our only purchases will be Whittaker and a striker, probably the latter on loan.
Keifer Moore needs surgery for a hernia

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:56 pm
Keifer Moore needs surgery for a hernia
With his speed I doubt any of us can tell if he is injured or not

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:32 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:17 pm
With his speed I doubt any of us can tell if he is injured or not
:lol: :lol:

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by louieollie » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:01 pm

brexit wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:00 am
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... iker-race/
Not one I have heard before
Because it's just a comic style site getting click bait .......if you read it READ IT .......it's just someone suggesting we SHOULD look at him nothing more nothing less.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by mdd2 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:16 pm

Below is from 3hr ago on BBC Sport website

Burnley have made a new bid for Plymouth forward Morgan Whittaker.

The offer, a package of around £5m plus add-ons, falls well below Argyle's valuation of the player. It is the second approach Burnley have made in this transfer window.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:26 pm

As one poster said about 6.5m being agreed, I can see 6.5m guaranteed with add ons based on performance and promotion going up to say 12m being accepted

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Hipper » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:31 pm

We should have got Tom Bradshaw in for him and Flemming to repeat their incredible goal scoring in the 2022-23 season.

Between him and Flemming they scored 32 goals (17/15). Bradshaw is obviously a one season wonder and is now aged 32 but he was almost unplayable at times that season. He inevitably got their equaliser after coming on as sub at The Den that year.

I'm not being serious but it's a nice though!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Ibahjanner » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:41 pm

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... p_AppShare

As I said don't listen to Chinese rumours. The club have no need to sell but will sell once their valuation is met. Think of ut this way sell for the 5 million suggested get relegated because of it and lose 12 million championship money.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by northeastclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:48 pm

Ibahjanner wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:41 pm
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... p_AppShare

As I said don't listen to Chinese rumours. The club have no need to sell but will sell once their valuation is met. Think of ut this way sell for the 5 million suggested get relegated because of it and lose 12 million championship money.
Why would you get relegated if you sell him. You are bottom now, with him playing for you. It would provide an opportunity to reinvest in players that could keep you up?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Big Vinny K » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:49 pm

Ibahjanner wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:41 pm
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... p_AppShare

As I said don't listen to Chinese rumours. The club have no need to sell but will sell once their valuation is met. Think of ut this way sell for the 5 million suggested get relegated because of it and lose 12 million championship money.
Or carry on refusing offers for him and keep hold of an unhappy player who is contributing little…..still get relegated and lose £12m championship money plus another £6m or so turned down.

Not sure Plymouth have the financial resources to risk not selling him. Of course it’s natural they try and maximise what they get for him and try and generate a bidding war but come deadline day I don’t think they will be able to turn down what is on the table even if it doesn’t meet their valuation.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:49 pm

Ibahjanner wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:41 pm
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... p_AppShare

As I said don't listen to Chinese rumours. The club have no need to sell but will sell once their valuation is met. Think of ut this way sell for the 5 million suggested get relegated because of it and lose 12 million championship money.
Do you have money to invest or are you relying on sales first? Because money now gives you a better chance of surviving than keeping a player and potentially going down anyway.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BigGaz » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:27 pm

Do you, as a relegation threatened manager and chairman

Keep on to an already pee'd off player, who is likely to be even more pee'd off, who by all accounts is a luxury player and has lost motivation, hoping you can get him back onside for the run in, knowing that if you get relegated he will certainly leave and his value will drop once again.

Or

Accept a fair offer of about 6m with add-ons and use that to bring in a few players of a better quality that want to be there and can also contribute next season regardless of what league you are in.

We've had this conundrum before with a few players like Ings, Tark etc. difference is we've had the knowledge that whatever value you lose you'd get back in the 'golden handshake' or 'Parachute Payments'. What Plymouth would get for their L1 share is a multi pack of quavers and a toffee crisp. It's a risky strategy to keep him.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Ibahjanner » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:39 pm

Whilst we move in a different ball park to yourselves the club unlike the general perception is financially sound. As I said the other day the accounts showed 10 million in the bank. Whilst this has been earmarked for infrastructure purposes they could use it to get the players they want. At the moment they are waiting for efl to agree rhat new investors are okay. The problem with them if rumours are true they currently also have shares in a premiership club. If the rumours are true who the persons are it will be a big gamechanger for the club.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Benson » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:03 pm

Probably nothing in it but FLW are linking us with Lewis O’Brien from Forest.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Stonehouse » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:13 pm

Benson wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:03 pm
Probably nothing in it but FLW are linking us with Lewis O’Brien from Forest.
LET saying them down the road are after him.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:15 pm

Benson wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:03 pm
Probably nothing in it but FLW are linking us with Lewis O’Brien from Forest.
Also linked earlier to Hull and Blackburn-why would we want him having signed Shelvey

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:16 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:13 pm
LET saying them down the road are after him.
Didnt they mess up trying to sign him previously ?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:24 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:16 pm
Didnt they mess up trying to sign him previously ?
Yes they did-at the last hour of deadline

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Longsider » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:54 pm

Ibahjanner wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:39 pm
Whilst we move in a different ball park to yourselves the club unlike the general perception is financially sound. As I said the other day the accounts showed 10 million in the bank. Whilst this has been earmarked for infrastructure purposes they could use it to get the players they want. At the moment they are waiting for efl to agree rhat new investors are okay. The problem with them if rumours are true they currently also have shares in a premiership club. If the rumours are true who the persons are it will be a big gamechanger for the club.
Edited. Just realised this post is from a Plymouth fan. I wrongly thought someone was about to invest heavily in Burnley. Oh well, nevermind
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Bullabill » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:53 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:27 pm

Do you, as a relegation threatened manager and chairman ......

Accept a fair offer of about 6m with add-ons and use that to bring in a few players of a better quality ........
How does that work? The add-ons wouldn't be guaranteed, so you have 6m to use to buy 'a few players of a better quality'.
Why wouldn't the buying club do that with the 6m?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Spike » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm

KernowHouseClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:02 pm
Message from my Janner's supporting friend, fee of around £6.5M agreed and probably announced on Friday
If you’re right you jump above Nixon as pundit if not ….

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by louieollie » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:47 pm

Spike wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm
If you’re right you jump above Nixon as pundit if not ….
Jeeeez that's not hard to do 😁, he's only just more credible than FLW !
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BigGaz » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:04 am

Bullabill wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:53 pm
How does that work? The add-ons wouldn't be guaranteed, so you have 6m to use to buy 'a few players of a better quality'.
Why wouldn't the buying club do that with the 6m?
With all due respect to Plymouth, let's say for arguments sake 3 x 2 million players (if they play like theyre worth it) helps them improve the overall quality of the squad/1st team and they'd be of a decent quality for what they need, a fight against relegation at the bottom end.

Not sure we are shopping in that market yet although we might be if we don't start scoring more.

Do these hypothetical 3 players add up to having more of an impact on their chances than one sulky Whittaker is what I'm getting at.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Bullabill » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:31 am

Fair enough, I've got you now Gaz. It's a fair point.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Guller Bull » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:17 am

Nothing really new on this Trésor link but still saying Leeds as a possible destination

http://sportwitness.co.uk/leeds-united- ... n-to-make/

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:38 am

Ibahjanner wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:39 pm
Whilst we move in a different ball park to yourselves the club unlike the general perception is financially sound. As I said the other day the accounts showed 10 million in the bank. Whilst this has been earmarked for infrastructure purposes they could use it to get the players they want. At the moment they are waiting for efl to agree rhat new investors are okay. The problem with them if rumours are true they currently also have shares in a premiership club. If the rumours are true who the persons are it will be a big gamechanger for the club.
I know you have mentioned this cash in the bank and being financially sound as justification for not needing to sell a couple of times on this thread now.

Your audited accounts are by no means in the basket case territory of some other clubs in our league but aren’t you posting pretty significant losses every year recently. Whilst you have seen decent increases in your revenue since your promotion season that revenue still has to be one of the lowest in the championship. To “compete” in the championship your owners have said they have had to increase operating costs pretty significantly which had resulted in your losses.

Cash in the bank can often be very misleading. It’s a point in time number and particularly in football it can be inflated for a number of reasons (season ticket sales coming in, a sky TV payment etc).

Not sure how deep your owners pockets are to fund year on year losses - I guess not that deep given you are trying to get new investors on board. For me you do not look like a club who can afford to walk away from the offer and if you go down you are clearly going to be looking in trouble financially with a big drop in your revenues and those operating costs still proportionally high.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:49 am

Good news that Whittaker is nearly done.

People moaning about our offer need to get real. £5+ is a massive amount for a club like Plymouth.

We were never paying £12m or whatever people wanted Pace to throw at it

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:52 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:49 am
Good news that Whittaker is nearly done.

People moaning about our offer need to get real. £5+ is a massive amount for a club like Plymouth.

We were never paying £12m or whatever people wanted Pace to throw at it
Is that now a fact? I hope it is. I'm sure tonight's team news will tell us.
Seems a really good deal at that price.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:01 am

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:52 am
Is that now a fact? I hope it is. I'm sure tonight's team news will tell us.
Seems a really good deal at that price.
Seems to be a lot of noise, nothing confirmed yet.

I expect if he doesn't play then it's a done deal.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Row x » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:11 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:01 am
Seems to be a lot of noise, nothing confirmed yet.

I expect if he doesn't play then it's a done deal.
This noise hasn't reached twitter yet

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:28 am

Whittaker will 100% start for Plymouth tonight

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:34 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:28 am
Whittaker will 100% start for Plymouth tonight
Where’s this come from?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:42 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:28 am
Whittaker will 100% start for Plymouth tonight
I don't think he will.

But I'll probably be checking their team news before ours!

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