Lyle Foster

[fidelcastro]

“ ineffective Rodriguez”! You’re right there he probably was ineffective but that might have something to do with the fact that he never actually came on.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Show me this set up and see how foster performs with Flemming in his more natural position .

Trafford
Roberts cj Steve Humphreys
Cullen bronwhill
Anthony Flemming hannibal
Foster

[warksclaret]

Show me this set up and see how foster performs with Flemming in his more natural position .

Trafford
Roberts cj Steve Humphreys
Cullen bronwhill
Anthony Flemming hannibal
Foster

Yes-worthy of a try.As I said above we need to persevere with Foster as Barnes and Rodriguez don’t offer any threat

[KRBFC]

Thought his best game was against Reading where he attacked really well and had quite a few shots ,don’t know if that was the real Lyle Foster or because Reading weren’t very good.

Did you see his goal? He missed an absolute sitter, it bounced up, hit him on the arse and gave him a second bite at it.

[ClaretPete001]

Show me this set up and see how foster performs with Flemming in his more natural position .

Trafford
Roberts cj Steve Humphreys
Cullen bronwhill
Anthony Flemming hannibal
Foster

We've tried Foster up front without Fleming but he doesn't play with his back to goal well and bully centre halves so the ball doesn't stick. Flemming is much better at it than Lyle although not great.

It's worth a try but I think Parker plays him where he does for a reason.

[warksclaret]

“ ineffective Rodriguez”! You’re right there he probably was ineffective but that might have something to do with the fact that he never actually came on.

Silly me-I was confusing it with his cameo few minutes at Plymouth. It goes to show he is so ineffective these days you cant recall whether he played or not

[ralph8]

its a repetitive message - keep playing a sole striker will result in zero goals scored by this team in quite a few games.
Foster not up to that role and loses heart after an hour.
This makes us very easy to defend against, including very average opposition.

[Stayingup]

Yes-worthy of a try.As I said above we need to persevere with Foster as Barnes and Rodriguez don’t offer any threat

Interesting comment about Barnes as we've only seen about 10 seconds of him so far.

[Hedontplayforyou]

We've tried Foster up front without Fleming but he doesn't play with his back to goal well and bully centre halves so the ball doesn't stick. Flemming is much better at it than Lyle although not great.

It's worth a try but I think Parker plays him where he does for a reason.

Foster wouldn’t have to play with his back to goal all the time if Flemming is supporting

[snapcrackleandpop]

He has scored 25 goals in 154 apps - not good enough.

[alf_resco]

He has scored 25 goals in 154 apps - not good enough.

See my post on the first page of this thread.
Look at his record over several years and it's poor for a supposed 'striker.'
Folk will eventually stop making excuses for him and come to the conclusion he's just not that good.

[KRBFC]

Shite again from the supposed best forward in the division

[colne-claret]

Another terrible piece of business by ALK. Just not good enough and will leave for a fraction of the money we spent on him. One goal all season is proper rubbish.

[fidelcastro]

Shite again from the supposed best forward in the division

I wonder if whoever claimed that would like to revise their opinion?

[jackobfc]

Maybe it wasn’t just the purchase from ALK, in the previous MTB documentary Kompany was being judged on the signing of Foster, this criticism coming from members of the board. I’m sure his words were something like. ‘Trust me, he will come good’

He’s being played out of position, we all scream play foster with Fleming behind and as yet we’ve not seen them together.

SP needs to let the handbrake off on Tuesday and provide the home crown with an emphatic performance. Fail to deliver and the crowd will be turning!!

[jackobfc]

Another terrible piece of business by ALK. Just not good enough and will leave for a fraction of the money we spent on him. One goal all season is proper rubbish.

Maybe it wasn’t just the purchase from ALK, in the previous MTB documentary Kompany was being judged on the signing of Foster, this criticism coming from members of the board. I’m sure his words were something like. ‘Trust me, he will come good’

He’s being played out of position, we all scream play foster with Fleming behind and as yet we’ve not seen them together.

SP needs to let the handbrake off on Tuesday and provide the home crown with an emphatic performance. Fail to deliver and the crowd will be turning!!

[Bosscat]

Show me this set up and see how foster performs with Flemming in his more natural position .

Trafford
Roberts cj Steve Humphreys
Cullen bronwhill
Anthony Flemming hannibal
Foster

Bronwhill a new signing then

[colne-claret]

Maybe it wasn’t just the purchase from ALK, in the previous MTB documentary Kompany was being judged on the signing of Foster, this criticism coming from members of the board. I’m sure his words were something like. ‘Trust me, he will come good’

He’s being played out of position, we all scream play foster with Fleming behind and as yet we’ve not seen them together.

SP needs to let the handbrake off on Tuesday and provide the home crown with an emphatic performance. Fail to deliver and the crowd will be turning!!

Yeah fair point. We paid like 10 mil for him didn’t we? Remember saying Kompany he would turn out to be a bargain. Sadly, his mental health issues didn’t help, there’s nothing that we can do about that though. They seemed to support him well through that. Just not sure that he’s a natural goalscorer. He’s certainly not a left winger. I hope he comes good, just can’t see it.

[123EasyasBFC]

We are 30 games in and we haven’t had Hannibal in his best position (next to Cullen) flemming in his best position (no 10) and foster in his best position (number 9) all start the same game

[CoolClaret]

Hasn't kicked on like I'd have hoped this season which is a shame, he showed glimpses last year of having everything you need to be a top striker but... just hasn't happened this year.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Il stick by the point of view

The system we are playing you could literally have Haaland up front and it wouldn’t matter

It’s everything, the style, the build play, the tempo. All of it is not conclusive for scoring goals.

On the flip side it’s also why our cbs look great. The longer the season is going on the more I am starting to think Parker doesn’t trust the CBs.

[123EasyasBFC]

Hasn't kicked on like I'd have hoped this season which is a shame, he showed glimpses last year of having everything you need to be a top striker but... just hasn't happened this year.

Edwards flemming Anthony
Foster

That should be the front 4 for the foreseeable with the run of games we have. You can have brownhill next to Cullen in games where we are going to dominate the ball

[123EasyasBFC]

Il stick by the point of view

The system we are playing you could literally have Haaland up front and it wouldn’t matter

It’s everything, the style, the build play, the tempo. All of it is not conclusive for scoring goals.

On the flip side it’s also why our cbs look great. The longer the season is going on the more I am starting to think Parker doesn’t trust the CBs.

Our CBs are passing the ball to each other deeper and deeper as the games go on

[RVclaret]

Stick Foster in Michael Carrick’s Boro up top and he’d look special in this league. It’s fair to say our (lack of) chance creation, for one reason or another, and general ‘focus’ on defensive structure (I feel this amazing defensive record has mentally got to the players and manager, understandably to some degree) is a bit of a hinderance for a striker.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Our CBs are passing the ball to each other deeper and deeper as the games go on

I am genuinely convinced at this point that Parker doesn’t actually rate them that highly.

Hes sacrificing nearly every aspect of forward play to ensure they are protected 90% of the time.

The tracking back that our wingers are doing is getting ridiculous. I was comparing heat maps of our wide players and other teams like Sheffield, Leeds and our average position has got to be nearly 15 yards further back

[bumba]

Stick Foster in Michael Carrick’s Boro up top and he’d look special in this league. It’s fair to say our (lack of) chance creation, for one reason or another, and general ‘focus’ on defensive structure (I feel this amazing defensive record has mentally got to the players and manager, understandably to some degree) is a bit of a hinderance for a striker.

Foster doesn't look good because Foster isn't good

[Newcastleclaret93]

Stick Foster in Michael Carrick’s Boro up top and he’d look special in this league. It’s fair to say our (lack of) chance creation, for one reason or another, and general ‘focus’ on defensive structure (I feel this amazing defensive record has mentally got to the players and manager, understandably to some degree) is a bit of a hinderance for a striker.

Think you’re 100% right.

Just look at chance creation stats, they are a joke

[ksrclaret]

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I am genuinely convinced at this point that Parker doesn’t actually rate them that highly.

Hes sacrificing nearly every aspect of forward play to ensure they are protected 90% of the time.

The tracking back that our wingers are doing is getting ridiculous was comparing heat maps of our wide players and other teams like Sheffield, Leeds and our average position has got to be nearly 15 yards further back

You’re right about the wide players average positions but I don’t think it’s just because they’re forced to track back. It’s also because they very, very rarely make runs ahead of the ball behind the defence, and they also have to come very deep to allow us to cycle the ball around the back so often.

It’s no wonder every striker we’ve tried this season has looked poor. They don’t stand a chance.

[Newcastleclaret93]

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You’re right about the wide players average positions but I don’t think it’s just because they’re forced to track back. It’s also because they very, very rarely make runs ahead of the ball behind the defence, and they also have to come very deep to allow us to cycle the ball around the back so often.

It’s no wonder every striker we’ve tried this season has looked poor. They don’t stand a chance.

You’re totally right it’s all about system. The average position of our wide players and strikers tells you absolutely everything you need to know about us.

We are compact side that very rarely pushes players forward.

There has got to be a reason Parker is making us play this way. What’s your thoughts on my CB theory?

[ksrclaret]

You’re totally right it’s all about system. The average position of our wide players and strikers tells you absolutely everything you need to know about us.

We are compact side that very rarely pushes players forward.

There has got to be a reason Parker is making us play this way. What’s your thoughts on my CB theory?

Not sure it’s much to do with him not rating the CBs that highly. Objectively they’re amongst the best in the league when it comes to duels, recovery pace, and positioning.

Parker has a bit of a history of playing negative football but has always had a striker who was way, way too good for the league to rely on. I think it’s his nature and preference to have us playing this way.

[Goliath]

I am genuinely convinced at this point that Parker doesn’t actually rate them that highly.

Hes sacrificing nearly every aspect of forward play to ensure they are protected 90% of the time.

The tracking back that our wingers are doing is getting ridiculous. I was comparing heat maps of our wide players and other teams like Sheffield, Leeds and our average position has got to be nearly 15 yards further back

I think you might have a point but in my opinion it's the full backs he doesn't rate not the centre backs. He's brought Sonne in surely to eventually take Roberts spot and he's showed no real confidence in our left back options either.

[CoolClaret]

Edwards flemming Anthony
Foster

That should be the front 4 for the foreseeable with the run of games we have. You can have brownhill next to Cullen in games where we are going to dominate the ball

Yeah if Edwards signs I agree.

[BurnleyFC]

Play him in a two up top, for crying out loud.

[helmclaret]

Lyle, like the other forwards we have, isn’t good enough.

People can moan all they want about Parker and his tactics, but our front 3 are bang average.

[ElectroClaret]

Sorry, don't like saying this about a Claret, but he's practically f***ing useless.

[Silkyskills1]

We are 30 games in and we haven’t had Hannibal in his best position (next to Cullen) flemming in his best position (no 10) and foster in his best position (number 9) all start the same game

What has Foster achieved in two years here to convince you his best position is at centre forward?

[helmclaret]

We are 30 games in and we haven’t had Hannibal in his best position (next to Cullen) flemming in his best position (no 10) and foster in his best position (number 9) all start the same game

Flemming may be better suited playing with a partner, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s any kind of ‘number 10.’

Foster, bar the odd game, has looked poor both up front and as a wide forward to me.

[123EasyasBFC]

What has Foster achieved in two years here to convince you his best position is at centre forward?

It’s clearly his best position, that’s not to say he’s actually that good but it’s his best position

[Goliath]

Flemming may be better suited playing with a partner, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s any kind of ‘number 10.’

Foster, bar the odd game, has looked poor both up front and as a wide forward to me.

Fleming plays deeper so it may be that their games would suit each other perfectly. Fleming coning short and doing most of the back to goal stuff. Foster stretching the play and trying to get in behind
It's definitely worth a try over Sarmiento

[DCWat]

Fleming plays deeper so it may be that their games would suit each other perfectly. Fleming coning short and doing most of the back to goal stuff. Foster stretching the play and trying to get in behind
It's definitely worth a try over Sarmiento

Where did Millwall play Flemming, when the my were getting the most out of him?

[ksrclaret]

Fleming plays deeper so it may be that their games would suit each other perfectly. Fleming coning short and doing most of the back to goal stuff. Foster stretching the play and trying to get in behind
It's definitely worth a try over Sarmiento

That's spot on. Like the old Vokes and Ings partnership, Flemming coming deeper and providing a physical target with Foster making runs behind and drifting in from the left channel would surely get more out of both than the current set up.

But I would bet my house that for the rest of the season, Parker will not give this most logical of selection choices even a 1 minute outing.

[Goliath]

That's spot on. Like the old Vokes and Ings partnership, Flemming coming deeper and providing a physical target with Foster making runs behind and drifting in from the left channel would surely get more out of both than the current set up.

But I would bet my house that for the rest of the season, Parker will not give this most logical of selection choices even a 1 minute outing.

To be fair, that's probably not far off what we are aiming for at the moment. But Foster is caught in between. We seem to be a bit caught between systems and styles at the moment.

I'd even be tempted to give Koleosho another go on the left in a 442 with Edwards (presuming he signs) on the right with Fleming and Foster up top.

[KRBFC]

So it’s still everyone else’s fault for his lack of ability even after two years

[Swizzlestick]

You’re totally right it’s all about system. The average position of our wide players and strikers tells you absolutely everything you need to know about us.

We are compact side that very rarely pushes players forward.

There has got to be a reason Parker is making us play this way. What’s your thoughts on my CB theory?

If he didn’t trust the CBs, he’d have brought in the experience of Worrall and/or Egan a long time ago. Both CBs are clearly showing they are highly impressive operators. It’s just the way the manager plays - he’s terrified of losing. He was similarly cautious at Bournemouth and Fulham, as their fans have testified, but he had Premier League quality centre forwards in Solanke and Mitrovic to rely on. He doesn’t have that here - to compound that, he seems insistent on playing our main striker on the left and a player who has predominantly played in the 10 position up top.

[RVclaret]

If he didn’t trust the CBs, he’d have brought in the experience of Worrall and/or Egan a long time ago. Both CBs are clearly showing they are highly impressive operators. It’s just the way the manager plays - he’s terrified of losing. He was similarly cautious at Bournemouth and Fulham, as their fans have testified, but he had Premier League quality centre forwards in Solanke and Mitrovic to rely on. He doesn’t have that here - to compound that, he seems insistent on playing our main striker on the left and a player who has predominantly played in the 10 position up top.

Solanke had been average - poor at Bournemouth until Parker arrived. The season before he got 14 goals in 46 and before that was regarded as an expensive flop in the Prem. Calling him a Premier League quality forward seems quite ‘after the fact’, when it was, ironically, under Parker where he had his breakout season.

As for ‘insistent’ on playing our ‘main striker’ on the left, it’s been what, 4/5 games, of which 2 he’s done quite well? Many had commented on Foster struggling with his back to goal and would be better with space to run into… it’s been worth a try, in my view.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If he didn’t trust the CBs, he’d have brought in the experience of Worrall and/or Egan a long time ago. Both CBs are clearly showing they are highly impressive operators. It’s just the way the manager plays - he’s terrified of losing. He was similarly cautious at Bournemouth and Fulham, as their fans have testified, but he had Premier League quality centre forwards in Solanke and Mitrovic to rely on. He doesn’t have that here - to compound that, he seems insistent on playing our main striker on the left and a player who has predominantly played in the 10 position up top.

I don’t think it is the way the manager plays though.

If you look at his two promotion teams none of them were this cautious. Even the creativity stats were considerably better in those sides.

So none of what you’re saying really lines up.

He may think the two CBs are quality, but his system and strategy in games is starting to tell me something completely different. Even under Dyche we didn’t protect our cbs as much as we do now.

[jlup1980]

So it’s still everyone else’s fault for his lack of ability even after two years

It seems that way doesn't it. Anyone with eyes can see that 8 goals in 56 appearances isn't a blip. We're not suddenly going to see a new Lyle Foster burst out of the traps between now and May. He's never been a consistent goalscorer at any level, and there's a very good reason for that! We all want our players to succeed, but sometimes not even blind faith is enough. He's not an Ings type, he's not a Blake type, he's not a Payton type, he's not a Wood type, he's not a Gray (Andy or Andre!) type... I genuinely don't know what he is. I do know he's not a Champsonship striker though, and never will be.

[Stayingup]

Did you see his goal? He missed an absolute sitter, it bounced up, hit him on the arse and gave him a second bite at it.

Thwe ball does bounce off him. Threepenny bit.

[Moltisanti]

So it’s still everyone else’s fault for his lack of ability even after two years

He’s better suited to Premier League football according Kompany

[Elizabeth]

He can play wide left then. A danger throughout the game , just needs a goal boost