January Transfer Window Rumours

[burnley007]

Newcastle sold Lloyd Kelly for £20m, do Tottenham really think that he is worth the same as Esteve?? Are they for real????

[Bordeauxclaret]

Maybe you should seek a second opinion by re-posting this on the Middlesbrough forum?

Fair point.

Own goals do happen but it’s very remote that they’d effect the 0-0/no goal scorer discussion.

[Dyched]

Well that's an odd window. Edwards on paper is a very good signing who will add badly lacking creativity, but the failure to bring in a striker feels like a glaring omission. Neither Foster nor Flemming really want to lead the line physically, neither are natural poachers, and Foster's availability record has been a bit patchy. And then we have Barnes who is a worthy servant but beyond his best at 35.

Time will tell but it doesn't feel like there's enough goals in this team to win 10 or 11 of the last 16, which realistically we will have to assume we need to do to gain automatic promotion.

I’d chuck one of the youth lads in, honestly, there’s nothing to lose. They might not be one up to this level, but he might just have that instinct to want to score.

A. We’re not scoring anyway
B. We’re not winning
C. Forwards aren’t just rated on goals but everything they bring. The forwards are nowhere near undroppable.
D. It will give the crowd a lift. They’ll all be behind him. Just imagine what a lift it will give if one came off the bench for 15 mins and grabbed a winner.

For me, we might as well. It’s not like we’d drop out of the playoffs and carrying on as we are, we aren't getting automatic.

[claretspice]

Agree with everything you are saying.

I think the club in an idea world would’ve strengthened up top, had the right player been available.

I don’t know about you, but I didn’t really see any links that looked to be an upgrade on what we already have.

Grant may have been ok, and offered us something a bit different in terms of stretching opposition defences, but I doubt WBA were ever going to sell considering they have their own promotion push to concentrate on.

I didn't see links, but I can think of a few players that we might have been interested in that might have added something. I suspect our biggest issue is that we now have 5 loans, so we couldn't accommodate any more in the match day squad. But it's a pity because I'm not sure if everyone gets back to any sort of level of fitness Sarmiento would be getting much game time.

[Goliath]

I didn't see links, but I can think of a few players that we might have been interested in that might have added something. I suspect our biggest issue is that we now have 5 loans, so we couldn't accommodate any more in the match day squad. But it's a pity because I'm not sure if everyone gets back to any sort of level of fitness Sarmiento would be getting much game time.

We don't really know that until Ramsey and Benson are fully fit. I can't see Benson being Parkers cup of tea with his complete lack of work rate.

[randomclaret2]

I’d chuck one of the youth lads in, honestly, there’s nothing to lose. They might not be one up to this level, but he might just have that instinct to want to score.

A. We’re not scoring anyway
B. We’re not winning
C. Forwards aren’t just rated on goals but everything they bring. The forwards are nowhere near undroppable.
D. It will give the crowd a lift. They’ll all be behind him. Just imagine what a lift it will give if one came off the bench for 15 mins and grabbed a winner.

For me, we might as well. It’s not like we’d drop out of the playoffs and carrying on as we are, we aren't getting automatic.

As far as I can see all the U21 strikers have been allowed to go out on loan

[sjb]

I wonder if that left back is still wandering around the building lost?

[fidelcastro]

I wonder if that left back is still wandering around the building lost?

BS on here? Who'd have thought?

[TheFamilyCat]

I wonder if that left back is still wandering around the building lost?

If it was Steve Morgan he probably is.

[Alan Young]

I don’t buy into the narrative that a different striker would solve our problems. Adding a wide forward with the ability to drift inside and add goals will help and Edwards (when fit) should provide (with Benson and Redmond hopefully not too far away). That should also help Flemming no end and I think we’ll see the best of him once those players are involved.

I would have liked us to add a creative number 10 too but it would have added to a bloated squad once the injuries return. Sarmiento and Hannibal haven’t offered us anywhere near enough yet in that position.

Have we got enough to go up automatically? I think we might but getting them all in the right order for the right games might be the key to it.

[billyhamilton82]

I’d chuck one of the youth lads in, honestly, there’s nothing to lose. They might not be one up to this level, but he might just have that instinct to want to score.

A. We’re not scoring anyway
B. We’re not winning
C. Forwards aren’t just rated on goals but everything they bring. The forwards are nowhere near undroppable.
D. It will give the crowd a lift. They’ll all be behind him. Just imagine what a lift it will give if one came off the bench for 15 mins and grabbed a winner.

For me, we might as well. It’s not like we’d drop out of the playoffs and carrying on as we are, we aren't getting automatic.

Agree with this.

As CJER has proved, given a few games the young lads will make an impact.

Sheff Utd have managed with 18 year old Ryan One leading their line on occasions this season.

That was always my argument with Jay Rod taking a place on the bench as a home grown player, when we could have had one of the U21s on there.

You never know we could have found the player we need by now from our own youth set up.

[burnley007]

“Edwards has signed for Burnley. That deal was probably done in a way to cut Tottenham out of their 35 per cent sell-on clause. Therefore, they will be frustrated about that scenario. How that would have been done is Burnley would have paid a large loan fee, and that isn’t part of the sale of the player. It has been done that way so that Sporting keep the maximum amount of money and Tottenham miss out.

“That has been done on purpose, make no mistake about it.”

Interesting take on why loans with options/obligations happen.

[TheFamilyCat]

“Edwards has signed for Burnley. That deal was probably done in a way to cut Tottenham out of their 35 per cent sell-on clause. Therefore, they will be frustrated about that scenario. How that would have been done is Burnley would have paid a large loan fee, and that isn’t part of the sale of the player. It has been done that way so that Sporting keep the maximum amount of money and Tottenham miss out.

“That has been done on purpose, make no mistake about it.”

Interesting take on why loans with options/obligations happen.

Would Spurs be entitled to anything, as Sporting didn't buy him directly from them?

I think Brentford tucked the Bastards up in a similar way when Raya went to Arsenal.

[Raconteur]

“Edwards has signed for Burnley. That deal was probably done in a way to cut Tottenham out of their 35 per cent sell-on clause. Therefore, they will be frustrated about that scenario. How that would have been done is Burnley would have paid a large loan fee, and that isn’t part of the sale of the player. It has been done that way so that Sporting keep the maximum amount of money and Tottenham miss out.

“That has been done on purpose, make no mistake about it.”

Interesting take on why loans with options/obligations happen.

It might have been interesting if you put where the quote was from .
As it is , it could just be your own thoughts written down.

[Raconteur]

Would Spurs be entitled to anything, as Sporting didn't buy him directly from them?

I think Brentford tucked the Bastards up in a similar way when Raya went to Arsenal.

https://www.tottenhamhotspurnews.com/ex ... ouncement/

This is my thoughts. Surely Spurs do not have a sell on as they sold him to Guimaraes ?

007 got it from the above link?

[boatshed bill]

Agree with this.

As CJER has proved, given a few games the young lads will make an impact.

Sheff Utd have managed with 18 year old Ryan One leading their line on occasions this season.

That was always my argument with Jay Rod taking a place on the bench as a home grown player, when we could have had one of the U21s on there.

You never know we could have found the player we need by now from our own youth set up.

As stated earlier, there are no strikers left in the U21s.
The only "prospect" could be Massara who VK rated highly, he's with the U18s

[Raconteur]

Would Spurs be entitled to anything, as Sporting didn't buy him directly from them?

I think Brentford tucked the Bastards up in a similar way when Raya went to Arsenal.

From looking online and Wikki (not the best I know) it seems that when Spurs sold him to Guimaraes, they only sold 50% of his economic rights (haven't got a clue how this works) . When Sporting purchased him again they only purchased 50% of his economic rights. It also states that Sporting then purchased another 15% of his economic rights while Spurs still held 35%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Edwards

[Ric_C]

Adam Armstrong has completed his move to WBA

Annoying

[TheFamilyCat]

From looking online and Wikki (not the best I know) it seems that when Spurs sold him to Guimaraes, they only sold 50% of his economic rights (haven't got a clue how this works) . When Sporting purchased him again they only purchased 50% of his economic rights. It also states that Sporting then purchased another 15% of his economic rights while Spurs still held 35%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Edwards

Fair enough. I can't be arsed to try to understand how that works.

[Ric_C]

Sunderland sign Danns and Latte Lath has finally gone from Boro

[Hutchy]

Two deadline day strikers for Rovers: https://x.com/rovers/status/18865616023 ... 6QKwfgixkA

Two very good signings for them it has to be said. Dennis in particular is a statement. They are going to be pretty handy going forward with Kargbo, Gueye and Dennis now.

[jojomk1]

Sunderland sign Danns and Latte Lath has finally gone from Boro

Danns fails medical with back problem
Gone back to Liverpool for treatment but Sunderland decide to keep the loan signing going hoping for recovery

[Tricky Trevor]

One thing we know about Ash Barnes is he can play with his back to goal, rough up his marker and bring others into play. His goal scoring days are probably behind him but he could be more than useful with Flemming behind him.

[StuWestMidsClaret]

Amazing how many posters on here will go quiet now this shite is over. Never to be seen on a normal thread.

[JR1882]

BS on here? Who'd have thought?

The bi annual UTC “I’m in the know but I’m not telling anyone what I know” p1ssing contest was a good one this time. Just read and laugh

[Bordeauxclaret]

Fair point.

Own goals do happen but it’s very remote that they’d effect the 0-0/no goal scorer discussion.

I did think when typing this…

[AfloatinClaret]

...The chances of an own goal are always remote.

Even when making my first reply I didn't disagree with your sentiment/opinion, but the comic-timing of it's just got even better

[Bordeauxclaret]

Even when making my first reply I didn't disagree with your sentiment/opinion, but the comic-timing of it's just got even better

Ha. I like to think I’ve played my part tonight.

[AfloatinClaret]

Ha. I like to think I’ve played my part tonight.

We all take our turn: I recall posting a suggestion on a match thread earlier in the season that someone's performance was less than adequate and that he needed subbing off... I had barely pressed send button when he scored a superb goal.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I literally have no idea what that is supposed to mean. If making quite a bit of money betting on 0-0 (generally at 5/1) this season is slow, then yes I'll take that.
Odd.

Trust it makes more sense to you now

[claretonthecoast1882]

Ha. I like to think I’ve played my part tonight.

Obviously none of us did the Burnley to win 1-0 and no goalscorer bet builder

[Bordeauxclaret]

Obviously none of us did the Burnley to win 1-0 and no goalscorer bet builder

I did have a look to see if any bookies offered first goal to be an og but couldn’t find one

[Tall Paul]

I did have a look to see if any bookies offered first goal to be an og but couldn’t find one

I saw 28/1 at Bet365, under first goal method

[Bordeauxclaret]

I saw 28/1 at Bet365, under first goal method

Oh FFS.

[IanMcL]

It might have been interesting if you put where the quote was from .
As it is , it could just be your own thoughts written down.

It's in Italics. I have never seen 007 write in Italics!

[burnley007]

It's in Italics. I have never seen 007 write in Italics!

I'm definitely NOT fancy enough to write in italics.