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Question on turf moor

Post by nonayclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:17 pm

What was the bob lord stand called before it was the bob lord stand?

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Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:20 pm

Can't recall it having a name - just the main stand/enclosure?

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Post by Beagle » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:20 pm

The current stand has always been called the Bob Lord Stand. The stand it replaced was called the Brunshaw Road Stand.

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Post by Dazzler » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:21 pm

Brunshaw Road Stand/End or something like that, I think

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Post by nonayclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:22 pm

Thank you, beagle, I have just won a pint in the pub!

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:22 pm

The Totally Wicked Bob Lord Stand.
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Post by Beagle » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:23 pm

nonayclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:22 pm
Thank you, beagle, I have just won a pint in the pub!
Cheers :D

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Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:25 pm

Martin Dobson Stand! ;)
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:27 pm

I thought it was the star stand?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:29 pm

The old stand never really had a name but it was the only stand.
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Post by Dazzler » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:37 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:27 pm
I thought it was the star stand?
Wasn't that previous to the stand that is being referred to?

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Post by Beagle » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:49 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:27 pm
I thought it was the star stand?
Wasn’t that the Longside before it was the Longside?

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Post by Vino blanco » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:52 pm

I always thought it was called the Brunshaw Road stand when I started going on in the fifties. My dad said it was the Brunshaw Road stand and there had been a Star Stand on the opposite side (Longside), which had been bought from the Burnley Union Star Football Club, which had gone bust in the long, distant past.
I also remember clearly that the Longside was always known as The Popular Side for many years...that’s where my dad used to stand as a young man in the thirties when there was no roof/stand .

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Post by Dazzler » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:57 pm

Beagle wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:49 pm
Wasn’t that the Longside before it was the Longside?
You're right

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Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:57 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:52 pm
I always thought it was called the Brunshaw Road stand when I started going on in the fifties. My dad said it was the Brunshaw Road stand and there had been a Star Stand on the opposite side (Longside), which had been bought from the Burnley Union Star Football Club, which had gone bust in the long, distant past.
I also remember clearly that the Longside was always known as The Popular Side for many years...that’s where my dad used to stand as a young man in the thirties when there was no roof/stand .
My dad always referred to what we know as the Longside, as the popular side
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Post by Vino blanco » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:03 pm

Even when I started going on regularly in about 1957, the four sides were the Cricket Field End, the Popular Side, the Bee Hole End and the Brunshaw Road Stand.

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Post by Dazzler » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:04 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:57 pm
My dad always referred to what we know as the Longside, as the popular side
I think the star stand was before that even, pre-2nd world war.
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:05 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:52 pm

I also remember clearly that the Longside was always known as The Popular Side for many years
I’m not sure how and when Longside appeared but was always known as the Popular Side when I first started going.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:09 pm

If my memory serves me well it became the Longside when the new Cricketfield Stand opened and all the boys who had previously stood there (where the singing/chanting started) moved over to the “Longside”. They weren’t aware it was called the Popular End and the Longside was easier to say and seemed to make more sense.....I was one of them who made the move.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:18 pm

I’ve just googled The Star Stand at Turf Moor: there is an interesting article with a picture of the said Star Stand....worth a quick look.

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:47 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:27 pm
I thought it was the star stand?
No, Star Stand was The Popular Side, until it became The Longside, around 1971

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:50 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:09 pm
If my memory serves me well it became the Longside when the new Cricketfield Stand opened and all the boys who had previously stood there (where the singing/chanting started) moved over to the “Longside”. They weren’t aware it was called the Popular End and the Longside was easier to say and seemed to make more sense.....I was one of them who made the move.
I knew the now Cricket Field End as "'t Covered End"

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:59 pm

Beagle wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:49 pm
Wasn’t that the Longside before it was the Longside?
Star Stand, originally a gravel slope

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:59 pm

Beagle wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:49 pm
Wasn’t that the Longside before it was the Longside?
Yes

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:00 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:52 pm
I always thought it was called the Brunshaw Road stand when I started going on in the fifties. My dad said it was the Brunshaw Road stand and there had been a Star Stand on the opposite side (Longside), which had been bought from the Burnley Union Star Football Club, which had gone bust in the long, distant past.
I also remember clearly that the Longside was always known as The Popular Side for many years...that’s where my dad used to stand as a young man in the thirties when there was no roof/stand .
Spot on.

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:02 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:03 pm
Even when I started going on regularly in about 1957, the four sides were the Cricket Field End, the Popular Side, the Bee Hole End and the Brunshaw Road Stand.
Cricket Field End was called 't Covered End

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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:05 pm
I’m not sure how and when Longside appeared but was always known as the Popular Side when I first started going.
Ray Simpson and I agreed it was about 1971 when The Longside was born

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Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:08 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:02 pm
Cricket Field End was called 't Covered End
Opposite the open end

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Post by billyhamilton82 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:11 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:18 pm
I’ve just googled The Star Stand at Turf Moor: there is an interesting article with a picture of the said Star Stand....worth a quick look.
Is it this one?

Its a brilliant read

https://www.flarchives.co.uk/resources/ ... -star-side

Rumour has it the forum / message board at the time had a meltdown about the leveraged purchase of a football stand!

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Post by Bullabill » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:15 pm

If that report is correct, the league champions were determined by election.

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Post by Goalkeeper » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:48 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:03 pm
Ray Simpson and I agreed it was about 1971 when The Longside was born
I'm sure the Longside became known as that in 1970, as I distinctly remember some Liverpool fans laughing at the name "Longside " in 69/70, when I was talking to them in a pub before the game.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:44 am

not sure, but to many it was "The Enclosure" the standing bit below the seated area.
think it was only a "tanner" to get in.

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Post by Petersa » Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:40 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:44 am
not sure, but to many it was "The Enclosure" the standing bit below the seated area.
think it was only a "tanner" to get in.
An extra tanner (six old pence = 2.5p for those under 70) you still had to pay the standard turnstile fee to get to the Enclosure in the first place.

In my early days going on, The Longside was known as the Belvedere Rd Stand or more often just The Belvedere. Always sounded a bit posh to me

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:10 am

Petersa wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:40 am
An extra tanner (six old pence = 2.5p for those under 70) you still had to pay the standard turnstile fee to get to the Enclosure in the first place.

In my early days going on, The Longside was known as the Belvedere Rd Stand or more often just The Belvedere. Always sounded a bit posh to me

kids didnt have to pay extra to get in , it was just sixpence.

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Post by Nonayforever » Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:15 am

My first ever visit to the Turf was on the Brunshaw Road stand. I remember me and my dad were stood on wobbly railway sleepers.

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Post by basil6345789 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:12 am

Row x wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:08 pm
Opposite the open end
No, that was ' t Bay Oyle End (Bee Hole)

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:12 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:44 am
not sure, but to many it was "The Enclosure" the standing bit below the seated area.
think it was only a "tanner" to get in.
Unless it was an all ticket game you went on the ground and then paid extra to go in the Enclosure. There was also an enclosure at the front of the other side. I can’t imagine remember the gates but they’d stopped charging by the time I started going on.

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Post by CaptJohn » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am

My first season tickets were in the Enclosure in front of the only stand on Brunshaw Road closest to the Cricket Field End. Happy days seeing Ralphy Coates tearing up the wing and crossing for Big Andy to nod home :)

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Post by lancastrian » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:49 am

The middle part of the stand was called Stand A

At both ends it was Stand B

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Post by Petersa » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:56 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:10 am
kids didnt have to pay extra to get in , it was just sixpence.
In the few seasons before it closed they most certainly did.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:14 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:47 pm
...The Popular Side, until it became The Longside, around 1971
I first went to the Turf in the 68/69 Season, but I only remember it being called 'The Longside'; then again, I watched from the Beehole End back then, so I didn't need to know; it would've been three or four years later (a draw against Liverpool in the FA Cup, I can't remember the score ) before I first set foot the Longside

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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:01 pm

I also reckon it became known as the Longside in 68/69.

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Post by Petersa » Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:12 am
Unless it was an all ticket game you went on the ground and then paid extra to go in the Enclosure. There was also an enclosure at the front of the other side. I can’t imagine remember the gates but they’d stopped charging by the time I started going on.
Definitely remember the fencing and gates on t'Belvedere but they were never used in my time...its only in recent times when wrinkleys reminisce that I remember them!
Saw plenty of games from the Enclosure you got drenched if it rained...never understood why you paid extra. If it was persisting down Saturday morning my Dad would tell me to be ready a bit early so we could get a decent spot on t'Belvedere under cover.....those were the days

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Post by ClaretCliff » Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:51 pm

According to the article linked about 15 posts back, it became known as the Longside in the 1930’s, based on articles in the Burnley Express of that era.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:33 pm

ClaretCliff wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:51 pm
According to the article linked about 15 posts back, it became known as the Longside in the 1930’s, based on articles in the Burnley Express of that era.
May well have done but was always referred to as the Popular Side in the 1960s

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Post by nonayclaret » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:44 pm

Some great interesting stuff, guys, all from a very simple question.

Thanks.

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